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August 30, 2011, 07:20:16 PM
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Snopes denies it fully but I found this http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/barack-obamas-uncle-has-been-arrested-and-held-as-illegal-immigrant/story-e6frg6so-1226124269032

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August 30, 2011, 07:37:24 PM
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No.

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August 30, 2011, 09:20:14 PM
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I have relatives that live in Australia. Does that make me australian?

(no, you're a stupid racist fuck)
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August 31, 2011, 04:54:25 AM
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I have relatives that live in Australia. Does that make me australian?

(no, you're a stupid racist fuck)

How is that racist? Jesus, people throw that term around like monkeys throwing shit at the zoo.

Retarded (If you are correct, but I don't really care, I'm more interested in removing his war mongering ass from office) maybe, but racist? Please 

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September 01, 2011, 04:46:47 AM
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No a trillion times. NO.


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September 01, 2011, 04:48:36 AM
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I have relatives that live in Australia. Does that make me australian?

(no, you're a stupid racist fuck)

How is that racist? Jesus, people throw that term around like monkeys throwing shit at the zoo.

Retarded (If you are correct, but I don't really care, I'm more interested in removing his war mongering ass from office) maybe, but racist? Please 
Warmonger? Please...

He has scaled down the war in Iraq to an almost non-existent state. And now we are slowly drawing out of Afghanstan.

Obama already won the war on terror. He did this by putting a bullet in Bin-Ladens dome.


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September 01, 2011, 05:06:40 AM
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I'm just asking because it says in the article his family came from there.  I thought it was political propaganda because David Icke found this guy from 17th century Virginia who was the ancestor of both Bush and Obama (ancestor was white as Obama is half white).  David Icke believes all US presidents have similar bloodline ancestry, illuminati/reptilian/etc.

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September 01, 2011, 06:56:04 AM
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I'm just asking because it says in the article his family came from there.  I thought it was political propaganda because David Icke found this guy from 17th century Virginia who was the ancestor of both Bush and Obama (ancestor was white as Obama is half white).  David Icke believes all US presidents have similar bloodline ancestry, illuminati/reptilian/etc.
You think Obama is a reptilian?

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September 01, 2011, 10:41:12 AM
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I'm just asking because it says in the article his family came from there.  I thought it was political propaganda because David Icke found this guy from 17th century Virginia who was the ancestor of both Bush and Obama (ancestor was white as Obama is half white).  David Icke believes all US presidents have similar bloodline ancestry, illuminati/reptilian/etc.
You think Obama is a reptilian?

No ffs.  He thinks he's a Kenyan reptilian who shares a bloodline with George W Bush Shocked

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September 01, 2011, 10:44:10 AM
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Warmonger? Please...

He has scaled down the war in Iraq to an almost non-existent state. And now we are slowly drawing out of Afghanstan.

Obama already won the war on terror. He did this by putting a bullet in Bin-Ladens dome.



Oh so you think those NATO warplanes are handing out candy in Libya? The drones in Yemen and Pakistan are probably giving away free health care as well. Not to mention the numerous dictatorships  Strategic allies still on the dole from the pentagon.

The depths you'll sink to to make excuses for Warbama are astounding.

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September 01, 2011, 11:11:47 AM
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Warmonger? Please...

He has scaled down the war in Iraq to an almost non-existent state. And now we are slowly drawing out of Afghanstan.

Obama already won the war on terror. He did this by putting a bullet in Bin-Ladens dome.



Oh so you think those NATO warplanes are handing out candy in Libya? The drones in Yemen and Pakistan are probably giving away free health care as well. Not to mention the numerous dictatorships  Strategic allies still on the dole from the pentagon.

The depths you'll sink to to make excuses for Warbama are astounding.
If you knew anything about foreign policy you would know that what's going on in Libya now, has nothing to do with the war on terror.

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September 01, 2011, 11:26:16 AM
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Warmonger? Please...

He has scaled down the war in Iraq to an almost non-existent state. And now we are slowly drawing out of Afghanstan.

Obama already won the war on terror. He did this by putting a bullet in Bin-Ladens dome.



Oh so you think those NATO warplanes are handing out candy in Libya? The drones in Yemen and Pakistan are probably giving away free health care as well. Not to mention the numerous dictatorships  Strategic allies still on the dole from the pentagon.

The depths you'll sink to to make excuses for Warbama are astounding.
If you knew anything about foreign policy you would know that what's going on in Libya now, has nothing to do with the war on terror.

That has nothing to do with what I said. Obama is a war monger. He is bombing Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, oh and Gitmo is still open.

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September 01, 2011, 11:30:07 AM
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Warmonger? Please...

He has scaled down the war in Iraq to an almost non-existent state. And now we are slowly drawing out of Afghanstan.

Obama already won the war on terror. He did this by putting a bullet in Bin-Ladens dome.



Oh so you think those NATO warplanes are handing out candy in Libya? The drones in Yemen and Pakistan are probably giving away free health care as well. Not to mention the numerous dictatorships  Strategic allies still on the dole from the pentagon.

The depths you'll sink to to make excuses for Warbama are astounding.
If you knew anything about foreign policy you would know that what's going on in Libya now, has nothing to do with the war on terror.

That has nothing to do with what I said. Obama is a war monger. He is bombing Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, oh and Gitmo is still open.
So you are a pacifist?

And all the conflicts you named are INTERNATIONALLY ran conflicts. Gitmo is a whole different issue, and because of legal boundaries set in place, all that is keeping him from actually closing it down. Atleast were not torturing people there like we did when bush was in power.

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September 01, 2011, 12:38:29 PM
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So you are a pacifist?

And all the conflicts you named are INTERNATIONALLY ran conflicts. Gitmo is a whole different issue, and because of legal boundaries set in place, all that is keeping him from actually closing it down. Atleast were not torturing people there like we did when bush was in power.

Pacificism has nothing to do with this. Libya never attacked the USA. So you think war mongering is OK because this time France is on your side? Last I checked resolution 1973 authorized protection of civilians, not regime change and a resource grab. That's even ignoring that it was based on a faulty premise to begin with. Do you really think Qaddafi would have brought about as much destruction and death by squashing protests as a full blown War has done? Those "legal boundaries" didn't stop him from engaging in an undeclared war.

I missed your excuse on the butchering of Pakistani and Yemeni civilians. Don't forget those dictatorships as well.

Is there anything the messiah will do that will cause you to forsake him or is he the way, the truth and the life as far as you are concerned?

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September 01, 2011, 02:01:14 PM
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So you are a pacifist?

And all the conflicts you named are INTERNATIONALLY ran conflicts. Gitmo is a whole different issue, and because of legal boundaries set in place, all that is keeping him from actually closing it down. Atleast were not torturing people there like we did when bush was in power.

Pacificism has nothing to do with this. Libya never attacked the USA. So you think war mongering is OK because this time France is on your side? Last I checked resolution 1973 authorized protection of civilians, not regime change and a resource grab. That's even ignoring that it was based on a faulty premise to begin with. Do you really think Qaddafi would have brought about as much destruction and death by squashing protests as a full blown War has done? Those "legal boundaries" didn't stop him from engaging in an undeclared war.

I missed your excuse on the butchering of Pakistani and Yemeni civilians. Don't forget those dictatorships as well.

Is there anything the messiah will do that will cause you to forsake him or is he the way, the truth and the life as far as you are concerned?
The "regime change" is being fueled by the Libyan people .

I can't account for the poor innocent civilians lost during battles. I hate war, and I am not an advocate for it in any way.

However, you are being pretty unreasonable with your assessments, and not giving back any valid solutions.

What is it that you want? For America and the rest of the world to stand by while Gaddafi slaughters his own people? Did you also want the President to ignore all professional opinions when it came down to withdrawals in Iraq and Afghanistan? If we would have pulled out of Iraq any faster than we did, it would have been a disaster, and you would be sitting here today attacking the President for that same scenario...

Instead we did the adult thing and made sure security was stable before we pulled out any considerable amount of forces. We are doing the same in Afghanistan as well.. 

Your use of the term "messiah" shows just how fucked up and twisted your ideology is. Do you not remember HOW MUCH WORSE things were just 2 and a half years ago? Jesus are people really that nostalgic?

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September 01, 2011, 02:49:24 PM
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I got a good laugh out of reading this thread.
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September 01, 2011, 03:32:50 PM
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The "regime change" is being fueled by the Libyan people .

So the numerous statements by NATO officials saying EXPLICITLY that the mission is regime change are meaningless? And those rebels miraculously found all those guns, ammo, artillery, etc from nowhere? The intelligence NATO  has been giving them?

However, you are being pretty unreasonable with your assessments, and not giving back any valid solutions.

How about staying out of other peoples business? Yes, fucked up things happen in other countries, but foreign interference never improves the situation. Especially by arguably the most hated country on the face of the earth. A lot more suffering has occurred in Libya because of the Obama led military misadventure there. Despite how the Pentagon Propaganda machine portrays it, Qaddafi had significant support and horrendous destabilization & war crimes from both sides are happening on a larger scale than otherwise as a result of your "help."

What is it that you want? For America and the rest of the world to stand by while Gaddafi slaughters his own people?

That's exactly what they did with Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, etc so why is Libya so special? Oh yeah, the guy in charge wasn't in Obamas pocket. You do not have the moral high ground here.

I can't account for the poor innocent civilians lost during battles.

Your excuses show just how fucked up and twisted your ideology is. The difference between Obama is GWB is minimal at best, there is no depth you will stoop to to defend him. You regurgitate govt propaganda like a parrot. Do you seriously think that Qaddafi is a crazed maniac indiscriminately killing civilians while in Yemen, "poor innocent civilians" are "lost during battles."?? Bottom line is the Mid East is full of murderous dictators, most of them are maintained by explicit US Govt support. You conveniently ignore that part and excuse militarism. I think you just vindicated my messiah reference.


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September 01, 2011, 03:38:32 PM
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GideonGono - a lot of what you say is true but why are you so bothered?  The US used its Tomahawk missiles but as far as I know the bombing was done by Britain and France.  And as a result of their actions, there has been one less massacre in the Middle East.  It doesn't seem to be something to be so upset about.

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September 01, 2011, 03:41:54 PM
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it doesnt matter if he was born on the  moon.
his mom was american
it doesnt matter what any  countries laws are on dual citizenship or crap
you cant lose natural born status in the us due to some  foreign countries laws.


Even, if this wasnt petty BS, article 1 section 8 gives congress the power to say who is a citizen and who isnt.  Congress ruled that Obama was born in hawaii. It doesnt matter at this point any more. He was certified a natural citizen(they did the same for mccain btw, and snopes that, his birth was actually controversial but only a petty minded person would have kept him from being president for being born in panama)

and you may not be racist, but you have to ask yourself, why you have spent so much time on this and why you want to undo the will of the voters.

There are plenty of real things to complain about, find one.

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September 01, 2011, 04:29:01 PM
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GideonGono - a lot of what you say is true but why are you so bothered?  The US used its Tomahawk missiles but as far as I know the bombing was done by Britain and France.  And as a result of their actions, there has been one less massacre in the Middle East.  It doesn't seem to be something to be so upset about.

I'm bothered because FlipPro said Obama wasn't a warmonger, which of course is a naked lie. And it is grossly inaccurate to say there is no massacre. It's just a different side that is doing the killing. Qaddafi's squashing of the protests wouldn't have killed more people than a full blown war. And it's a bit early to say a massacre has been averted since the war isn't over and post war stability is not guaranteed. Such statements remind me of the "Mission Accomplished" speech.

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