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August 30, 2011, 08:12:31 PM
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Oh, the shit just gets deeper and stinkier.


http://mortgagefraudblog.com/perp-walk/item/10674-illinois_foreclosure_rescue_company_fined_and_shut_down

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Bold Funding, Inc. and its owner-operator, Bruce Wagner, were found to have violated Illinois law by falsely promising to secure private funding for loans to save the homes of persons who were in foreclosure for a fee ranging from $300 to $6,670.

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In Civil Court on April 18, 2006, Judge Julia Nowicki ordered Bold Funding and Bruce Wagner to refund $115,858 in application fees to 74 former customers who never received any funding from the Defendants. Bold Funding and Bruce Wagner were also fined $250,000, and the Defendants were permanently banned from providing any services in Illinois related to residential mortgage loans.

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probably the largest, most sophisticated foreclosure scam I've ever heard about, before or since then. $116,000 or so in refunds doesn't begin to compensate all of the victims. And now the owner, it seems, fled to another state and is trying to start his own talk show!

http://web.archive.org/web/20040923210936/http://boldfunding.com/

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Bold Funding helps hundreds of people each and every year.  We’ve been proud members of the Better Business Bureau for 12 years, and have attorneys on staff to fight for you, but don’t let one more day slip away…  You need to call us right now!   You do not have to lose your home!   We may be able to help you save your home in as little as 21 business days…  even after the Sheriff Sale… regardless of your credit!  Call now… 1-800-567-8922.

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August 30, 2011, 08:15:52 PM
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misusing those elipses - sort of like rainbow sprinkles on a cupcake - eh scrotum cupper?

You just live a sociaopathic existence, don't you Broocey?

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August 30, 2011, 08:26:58 PM
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You had better hope and be sure it's the same Bruce Wagner or you'll be in for some libel suit here.
Libel and Slander are not victimless crimes.  Shocked

Where is the evidence it's the same person?

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August 30, 2011, 08:29:02 PM
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You had better hope and be sure it's the same Bruce Wagner or you'll be in for some libel suit here.
Libel and Slander are not victimless crimes.  Shocked

Where is the evidence it's the same person?

Domain: boldfunding.com - Whois History
Cache Date: 2004-08-11
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Server: whois.enom.com
Created: 2003-05-10
Updated:
Expires: 2006-05-10
Reverse Whois: Click on an email address we found in this whois record
to see which other domains the registrant is associated with:
domainreg@jumpline.com bold@mailblocks.com edward@mailblocks.com noc@web1000.com

Registration Service Provided By: Jumpline.com, Inc.
Contact: domainreg@jumpline.com
Visit: http://jumpline.com

Domain name: boldfunding.com

Registrant Contact:
Bold Funding, Inc.
Bold Funding (bold@mailblocks.com)
+1.8005678922
Fax: +1.8003290510
9 E Huron St., Ste. 5000
Chicago, IL 60611
US

Administrative Contact:
Bold Funding, Inc.
Bold Funding (bold@mailblocks.com)
+1.8005678922
Fax: +1.8003290510
9 E Huron St., Ste. 5000
Chicago, IL 60611
US

Technical Contact:
Network Operations Center
Bold Funding (noc@WEB1000.com)
+1.7755887862
Fax: +1.7755887823
PO Box 11898
Zephyr Cove, NV 89448
US

Billing Contact:
Bold Funding, Inc.
Bold Funding (edward@mailblocks.com)
+1.8009132653
Fax: +1.8003290510
9 E Huron St., Ste. 5000
Chicago, IL 60611
US

Status: Active

Name Servers:
ns1.web1000.com
ns2.web1000.com
ns3.web1000.com
ns4.web1000.com

Creation date: 10 May 2003 00:00:00


His manbuddy Edward was in on some of the scams too




edit: Whoops, my posting was from his Nevada mortgage scams, not the Illinois ones. point still stands
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August 30, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
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Where is the evidence it's the same person?

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August 30, 2011, 08:33:05 PM
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Where is the evidence it's the same person?



And where is this from? Where can it be located online?

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August 30, 2011, 08:34:07 PM
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And where is this from? Where can it be located online?


Sorry. Here you go: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407612&p=5491226#post5491226
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August 30, 2011, 08:35:22 PM
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There's a million Bruce Wagners.  Bold Funding, Inc.'s Bruce L. Wagner is in all probability a completely different person.
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August 30, 2011, 08:36:45 PM
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I think you might be missing the evidence linking Bruce's "bred" nickname to Bold Funding, greyhawk.

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Not conclusive enough for such an accusation.
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August 30, 2011, 08:38:59 PM
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Not conclusive enough for such an accusation.

He used the same username across forums as that bold funding company - just looked at what was linked.

What do you need? A photo of him holding a sign saying 'I commited Fraud'?

someone from SA should/will be prepping a megapost, expect it later
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August 30, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
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I think you might be missing the evidence linking Bruce's "bred" nickname to Bold Funding, greyhawk.

Thanks!

It appears to me now, that Bruce Wagner IS ACTUALLY A FRAUDSTER!

Unless someone can prove otherwise. Where are you now, Bruce?

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August 30, 2011, 08:40:00 PM
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Is it enough to get a guilty conviction in a court of law?  Maybe, maybe not.

Is it enough that people can make a fairly conclusive judgment for themselves?  Yeah, pretty much.

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August 30, 2011, 08:40:30 PM
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http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/financial-services/bold-funding-in-chicago-il-23000452

This Business is not BBB Accredited
Bold Funding, Inc.

Phone: (800) 567-8922
Fax: (800) 329-051040
E. Chicago Ave., #5000, Chicago, IL 60611
brucewagner@mailblocks.com
http://www.boldfunding.com

E: Thread is moving too fast and I missed josh's bit.
Here's another set of numbers for the IL office:
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* Fax: +1 435 603 5552
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August 30, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
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There's a million Bruce Wagners.  Bold Funding, Inc.'s Bruce L. Wagner is in all probability a completely different person.

See if you folks see what I found funny here: (then copy and paste it)

http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/financial-services/bold-funding-in-chicago-il-23000452

Never mind! JeffK has it -- it's the second line.

ROFLMAO: E: Thread is moving too fast and I missed JeffK's bit.
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August 30, 2011, 08:47:17 PM
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You had better hope and be sure it's the same Bruce Wagner or you'll be in for some libel suit here.
Libel and Slander are not victimless crimes.  Shocked

Where is the evidence it's the same person?

No matter. Any Judge in Canada would look at this and say, Broocie, you did start this by calling Shane a thief. Do you really want to try to prove damages here?

At that point Broocy's lawyer would ask for more cash up front.

And speaking of cash, just where did Bruce get that 25K he had in MBC?

He said something about his friends. Maybe those friends were paying to accompany Brooce around the world to places only notorious for sex tourism where they might pay for sex with boys who are of course all over 18 yrs old.

Hmm, what was that big pile of loot earmarked to pay for brooce? Could the ledger at MBC shed some light on that? Perhasp those
"friends" you speak of owning that loot might tell us why it was there, under your control?

Hmm.


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August 30, 2011, 08:50:39 PM
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The judge didn't say the word "reprehensible".  That was a quote from the state attorney Richard Devine, not the judge.

Just an observation is all.

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August 30, 2011, 08:56:27 PM
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I was a bystander most of the time, but I must say these things really look bad. It's not bullet proof hard evidence, but it's good enough for me. Sorry Bruce.
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August 30, 2011, 08:57:39 PM
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The judge didn't say the word "reprehensible".  That was a quote from the state attorney Richard Devine, not the judge.

Just an observation is all.


Defrauding people out of their homes is reprehensible though, Bruce is a parasite leeching off the actual working class
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August 30, 2011, 09:00:43 PM
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I was a bystander most of the time, but I must say these things really look bad. It's not bullet proof hard evidence, but it's good enough for me. Sorry Bruce.

If it turns out this is the same guy, I wouldn't feel sorry for him but for his victims that trusted him with money that he never intended to use to help them out of a bad spot with their homes.
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