nootropics?

[Tasty Champa]

Sup, any of you use nootropics?

I like em, I take pure choline bitartrate quite often,
I also take 1,3 dimethylamylamine, sure it's a stimulant and not exactly a nootropic but I like the extra oomph oomph oomph! XD

Racetams are cool too, oxiractam to be precise, but idebnone, is so good man.

choline bitartrate and ideb I rate.

[julz]

I find it an interesting topic, but I'd like to see some good peer-reviewed studies on the effectiveness of some of these things, as well as the long term side effects.
It seems to me that many people just pop a variety of pills of varying dosages and experiment on themselves in a haphazard way.
While you'd think personal experience - ie 'what works for me' would be a good guide - I'm not so sure.  I know from my own experiments with diet that it's very hard to draw valid conclusions as there are so many variables.

The only things I take that are remotely nootropical are caffeine (tea,coffee,chocolate) and nicotine.  I don't smoke - I just occasionally take a nicotine tablet (supposedly to help quitters -lol) as a mild mental pep up and general stress reliever.

[theymos]

I tried taking piracetam, but it made me incredibly drowsy, even with tons of choline.

[Tasty Champa]

I find it an interesting topic, but I'd like to see some good peer-reviewed studies on the effectiveness of some of these things, as well as the long term side effects.
It seems to me that many people just pop a variety of pills of varying dosages and experiment on themselves in a haphazard way.
While you'd think personal experience - ie 'what works for me' would be a good guide - I'm not so sure.  I know from my own experiments with diet that it's very hard to draw valid conclusions as there are so many variables.

The only things I take that are remotely nootropical are caffeine (tea,coffee,chocolate) and nicotine.  I don't smoke - I just occasionally take a nicotine tablet (supposedly to help quitters -lol) as a mild mental pep up and general stress reliever.

I would like to know about the brand name of the nico tabs, I wouldn't mind having some of those.

You are certainly right about not being too many peer reviewed studies, I have learned most of what I know of them from IMMST, bodybuildingforum, anabolicminds, 2nd hand exp. and first hand.

[Tasty Champa]

I tried taking piracetam, but it made me incredibly drowsy, even with tons of choline.

what brand of piracetam?
also, was it indeed choline bitartrate?


if you take just the choline bitartrate by itself, very soon you should achieve lucid dreaming very easily.

[theymos]

what brand of piracetam?
also, was it indeed choline bitartrate?

The piracetam was cheap powdered stuff. I don't remember the brand.

I was taking both choline bitartrate and soy lecithin at like quadruple the recommended dose.

[julz]

I would like to know about the brand name of the nico tabs, I wouldn't mind having some of those.

Nicabate 4mg mini mint lozenges.  You can pick them up at supermarkets here in Australia.

You are certainly right about not being too many peer reviewed studies, I have learned most of what I know of them from IMMST, bodybuildingforum, anabolicminds, 2nd hand exp. and first hand.

IMMST?  Do you mean imminst.org? I haven't checked for a while but there used to be some interesting discussions on nootropics there.

[Tasty Champa]

I would like to know about the brand name of the nico tabs, I wouldn't mind having some of those.

Nicabate 4mg mini mint lozenges.  You can pick them up at supermarkets here in Australia.

Thanks! I'm gonna have a look for those.

You are certainly right about not being too many peer reviewed studies, I have learned most of what I know of them from IMMST, bodybuildingforum, anabolicminds, 2nd hand exp. and first hand.

IMMST?  Do you mean imminst.org? I haven't checked for a while but there used to be some interesting discussions on nootropics there.

Typo,  Yes, lot's of info there. Though I really suggest anabolicminds, if you want a plethra of info to sift through. Those guys are human guinea pigs, and most of the time the writing very elaborate, detailed and overall pretty helpful. It really dwarfs imminst in value of info toward nootropics. Plus most of the guys there seem to study bio-chem? since it's a body building forum they are already very acquainted with physiology. Those guys make some crazy concoctions.
If I ever need to venture outside of my sources I will sometimes use them to find good prices when I need to buy, or find out about new things.

[Tasty Champa]

what brand of piracetam?
also, was it indeed choline bitartrate?

The piracetam was cheap powdered stuff. I don't remember the brand.

I was taking both choline bitartrate and soy lecithin at like quadruple the recommended dose.

Was it the gold tub?

Why did you take so much if you don't mind me asking.

[theymos]

Was it the gold tub?

Why did you take so much if you don't mind me asking.

They were green and black containers I got from Bulk Nutrition. (They don't sell them anymore, though.)

I was taking more choline to hopefully prevent the drowsiness from the piracetam, though it didn't work.

[RandyFolds]

I took modafinil for a while...not exactly a nootropic, but close. It made my sweat and my piss smell like the pills, and I couldn't handle it, but the effects after a couple weeks of continuous use were very positive.

[sequence]

Want to feel like the guy in the movie Limitless?  Try Alpha GPC, crosses the blood brain barrier and works wonders on your neurotransmitters!

[RandyFolds]

Want to feel like the guy in the movie Limitless?  Try Alpha GPC, crosses the blood brain barrier and works wonders on your neurotransmitters!

Sounds like it might fuck your brain up in the process...

[Tasty Champa]

Want to feel like the guy in the movie Limitless?  Try Alpha GPC, crosses the blood brain barrier and works wonders on your neurotransmitters!

Sounds like it might fuck your brain up in the process...

the compound is a refined version of choline, Alpha GPC comes from highly refined soy lecithin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-GPC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choline

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choline#Food_sources_of_choline

I want some Alpha GPC, I had forgotten all about it before sequence mentioned it.
Thanks sequence!

[sequence]

It's great stuff!  Get the Jarrow brand.