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August 31, 2011, 03:08:13 AM
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This computer im using is NOWHERE near being a "rig", my gf uses it to watch movies and internet, i use it for bitcointalk and etc. I just installed my 5830 yesterday and checking the temps now and then. Currently its 74°C w/ fan @ 68% and overclocked to 860/300. If i remove the side panel it drops to around 67°C. Im not sure what temp im supposed to run at, but is this normal, heres what my setup looks like:



The fan on the side panel is blowing out, and the fan on the back is sucking air in - also notice i have the space open around the mobo inputs open.
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August 31, 2011, 03:47:23 AM
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Currently its 74°C w/ fan @ 68% and overclocked to 860/300. If i remove the side panel it drops to around 67°C. Im not sure what temp im supposed to run at

74 is fine, they can handle 90c-100c maybe even 110c but highly recommended not go passed 85c for 24/7 use.

If you have a jig saw, you could pick up a few acrylic jig saw blades, cut a 120mm hole in that acrylic window. And use these specialized drill bits to drill the four holes for the screws to go through and fasten the 120mm fan to the acrylic.

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23124&catid=560

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23001&catid=560

other items for acrylic.
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August 31, 2011, 03:58:19 AM
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Try a multi tool it'll make a cleaner cut if you're patient.
 harborfreight.com/oscillating-multifunction-power-tool-68303.html

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August 31, 2011, 04:17:10 AM
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Actually, im going to do that, im going to replace the 80mm fan i have in the back with a 120mm fan and make the hole bigger on my side panel and put a 120mm fan, and these look up to the task:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185059
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August 31, 2011, 04:22:49 AM
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Try a multi tool it'll make a cleaner cut if you're patient.
 harborfreight.com/oscillating-multifunction-power-tool-68303.html

Yea, they will do better, I suggested them tools, as I used a high count tooth metal/plastic jig saw blade out of the toolbox, and hillybillied made diamond shaped drill bit from a regular bit on the grinder "it was quick and dirty, and I had to use ice water" .

Actually, im going to do that, im going to replace the 80mm fan i have in the back with a 120mm fan and make the hole bigger on my side panel and put a 120mm fan, and these look up to the task:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185059

Yes, you gotta have a lot of patients like deslok states .
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August 31, 2011, 04:33:07 AM
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My grandfather has a plethora of tools, ill take it to his house and im sure ill find something.
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August 31, 2011, 04:40:26 AM
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My grandfather has a plethora of tools, ill take it to his house and im sure ill find something.

Well, then, if he has a dremel, that is if you pick up 2 120mm fans, one for the side, one for the back, use the dremel and cut that honey comb out for better ventilation.
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August 31, 2011, 04:42:06 AM
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I would turn your fans around to start.  The back fan pulling in right next to your power supply fan blowing out is going to pull warm air back into the case..  so make the back fan out and the side fan in.. if you are going to cut a new hole in the window make it below the video card so the cooler air gets to the video card.  Maybe look at adding an intake fan to the bottom of the front of the case if there is a way to do it.

It looks like your CPU cooler has a fan on the top of the heat sink.  If you can remount the cooler you will want it to blow to the back of the case towards the fan in the back (reversed as I suggested) which will blow that hot air out of the case.

Your temps at 74C are great.. I try to keep all my cards under 75C but you don't really have to worry even in the 80s.
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August 31, 2011, 05:21:16 AM
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I would turn your fans around to start.  The back fan pulling in right next to your power supply fan blowing out is going to pull warm air back into the case..  so make the back fan out and the side fan in.. if you are going to cut a new hole in the window make it below the video card so the cooler air gets to the video card.  Maybe look at adding an intake fan to the bottom of the front of the case if there is a way to do it.

It looks like your CPU cooler has a fan on the top of the heat sink.  If you can remount the cooler you will want it to blow to the back of the case towards the fan in the back (reversed as I suggested) which will blow that hot air out of the case.

Your temps at 74C are great.. I try to keep all my cards under 75C but you don't really have to worry even in the 80s.

I cannot move the CPU fan, or the location of the side panel fan without having a hole. He has a dremel and thats a good idea about removing the honeycomb, which im sure ill do. I removed the side panel for now and dropped the temp around ~8°C. Ill reverse the back fan (which i had it that way because at my other house, there was a window AC blowing on it, now its just a wall), and the side panel fan, but theres nowhere to put a intake. The CPU fan is blowing on the PSU which *should* be blowing some of that air out.

Eventually i will probably just get a new case and start removing all the cosmetics on this case and make it a mining rack.
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August 31, 2011, 05:30:32 AM
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I cannot move the CPU fan

I was thinking you could pull the entire CPU cooler and remount it with the new orientation.  All you need is a little thermal grease.
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September 01, 2011, 12:30:29 AM
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as suggested already: rear fan out (get a 120), side in. is there  a front fan mount? if not hack one in for a 120 intake. that 5830 has a dead air space below it you want to get fresh air to.

try pulling the lower slot covers (all the ones below the card) and let some air in that way (assuming negative case pressure which it looks like you have).

with decent airflow you should be able to get the card to near or over 1 Ghz.. see my sig. however I do run an open case as its in the basement. card fan is 65%, runs in the 60's temp wise.

for temps to shoot for, lower 80's is as high as I like to see. preferable 70's or below. 60's is sweet. high 80's I do not like for 24/7 temps.

whats the PSU?
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September 01, 2011, 12:36:35 AM
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I cannot move the CPU fan

I was thinking you could pull the entire CPU cooler and remount it with the new orientation.  All you need is a little thermal grease.

No, with the way it "locks" onto the CPU bracket, i can only have it pointing up or down.

as suggested already: rear fan out (get a 120), side in. is there  a front fan mount? if not hack one in for a 120 intake. that 5830 has a dead air space below it you want to get fresh air to.

try pulling the lower slot covers (all the ones below the card) and let some air in that way (assuming negative case pressure which it looks like you have).

with decent airflow you should be able to get the card to near or over 1 Ghz.. see my sig. however I do run an open case as its in the basement. card fan is 65%, runs in the 60's temp wise.

for temps to shoot for, lower 80's is as high as I like to see. preferable 70's or below. 60's is sweet. high 80's I do not like for 24/7 temps.

whats the PSU?

Generic 480 watt. Took the side panel off today and kept it off and it sat near 65°C most of the time.

Now i have the problem of which fans to buy,
88.11 CFM / 1600 RPM / 33.00 dBA / $19.98 (for two)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185059
129.96 CFM / 3200 RPM / 48.00 dBA / $25 (for two)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22366.0

What to do, what to do...
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September 01, 2011, 12:54:03 AM
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Now i have the problem of which fans to buy,
88.11 CFM / 1600 RPM / 33.00 dBA / $19.98 (for two)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185059
129.96 CFM / 3200 RPM / 48.00 dBA / $25 (for two)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22366.0

What to do, what to do...

I would suggest for a budget on good quality fans, Yate Loons. I use these, and they are very good for the price.
The same guy that runs sidewindercomputers runs petra's as well.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa2.html

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/yalo12d1hisp.html

Here is a test of the medium speed yate loon, the ones I've posted are high speed and what I use, Medium speed http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/859483-round-6-fan-testing-working-thread.html#post11219376

Also a ton of other tests of a ton of other fans if you are interested.
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/859483-round-6-fan-testing-working-thread.html

EDIT:
Now, whether you decide what ever fan, they are most likely going to run some what loud.

I would suggest a lamptron fan controller as they are known for good quality.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811997023

If you could find a cheaper price on a lamptron fan controller, grab it. I doubt you or your lady will enjoy the sound of a black hawk next to you or her.
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