wolftaur
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August 31, 2011, 04:51:29 AM |
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The "Bruce Wagner = Tod Williams = Tom Williams" seems tenuous at best. Curious to see where this goes, though.
Is it just me, or does "Tod Williams uses Tom Williams as alias to create scam to recover money lost to Bruce, so he can buy himself a new house to replace the one Bruce made sure he lost, and make Bruce look like one dumb mother fucker in the process" sound like a lame Hollywood script?
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The_Duke
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August 31, 2011, 04:57:49 AM |
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Persoanlly, I'm waiting for the news about Bruce Wagner hacking MtGox to come out before passing final judgement. If he didn't do it last time, then he's probably doing it as we speak in japan. He might be "social engineering" MagicalTux to get the data he needs...
On a (slightly) more serious note: If this is real, then Bruce is much less intelligent than I thought he was.
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freequant
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August 31, 2011, 05:07:35 AM |
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Strange how mybitcoin.com just went offline. 404 Not Found
The server can not find the requested page:
50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ (port 80)
Please forward this error screen to 50.61.240.200's WebMaster.
404 error page shows it is hosted at Arvixe <h1>404 Not Found</h1> <p>The server can not find the requested page:</p> <blockquote> 50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ (port 80) </blockquote> <p> Please forward this error screen to 50.61.240.200's <a href="mailto:servers@arvixe.com?subject=Error message [404] 404 Not Found for 50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ port 80 on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2011 22:00:07 PDT">
WebMaster</a>. </p> <hr />
Wait, I've seen that somewhere... Of course, this is where OnlyOneTv is hosted! Whois Server Version 2.0 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.netfor detailed information. Domain Name: ONLYONETV.COM Registrar: ENOM, INC. Whois Server: whois.enom.com Referral URL: http://www.enom.com Name Server: NS1.RAVEN.ARVIXE.COM Name Server: NS2.RAVEN.ARVIXE.COM Status: clientTransferProhibited Updated Date: 15-aug-2011 Creation Date: 15-sep-2010 Expiration Date: 15-sep-2012 Bruce, you are a magnet to unfortunate coincidences.
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BTC4Host
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August 31, 2011, 05:09:40 AM |
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I think the we unraveled the mystery guys! SELL SELL SELL!!! Perhaps Bruce took control of thymos's account to move this post!
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August 31, 2011, 05:15:48 AM |
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Does anyone think Bruce is satoshi?
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wolftaur
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August 31, 2011, 05:18:11 AM |
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Does anyone think Bruce is satoshi?
No. The first time I watched the bitcoin show, I was chatting in the associated IRC channel. I ended up being asked in private by them to explain to them what the hashing was about. They thought up until then that the process was to brute-force the encryption key for the "reward" in the block.
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Apate (OP)
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August 31, 2011, 05:21:15 AM |
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It has also emerged that Bruce was not only involved in the Ohio fraud lawsuit regarding the aforementioned foreclosure scam, but there's also this summons to the New York Supreme Court demanding Bruce appear to answer accusations of assault and fraud - he did not, thus defaulting on the $514,400 lawsuit. There is no record of him ever having paid up.
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bitrebel
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August 31, 2011, 05:33:26 AM |
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Does anyone think Bruce is satoshi?
Bruce is not smart enough to be Satoshi
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Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores? Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
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NothinG
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August 31, 2011, 05:35:21 AM |
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Does anyone think Bruce is satoshi?
Bruce is not smart enough to be Satoshi Satoshi isn't smart enough to be Satoshi...
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freequant
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August 31, 2011, 05:36:19 AM |
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Does anyone think Bruce is satoshi?
Clearly not. Why would the master ruin his own creation? Unless this is just the tip of the iceberg? Wait.. Are you guys all Bruce? Am I the only non-Bruce poster in this whole story?? There really is matter for a good book here. That completely beats the plot of Azimov's fundation series! That would be interesting though to know just how Bruce came to know about Bitcoin and how he got involved. At the time he joined, there were not that many Bitcoiners. Was he introduced by someone? Did he come out of nowhere?
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bitrebel
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August 31, 2011, 05:37:51 AM |
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Does anyone think Bruce is satoshi?
Bruce is not smart enough to be Satoshi Satoshi isn't smart enough to be Satoshi... I've pondered the same dilemma.
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Why does Bitrebel have 65+ Ignores? Because Bitrebel says things that some people do not want YOU to hear.
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Steve
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August 31, 2011, 05:47:23 AM |
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Strange how mybitcoin.com just went offline. 404 Not Found
The server can not find the requested page:
50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ (port 80)
Please forward this error screen to 50.61.240.200's WebMaster.
404 error page shows it is hosted at Arvixe <h1>404 Not Found</h1> <p>The server can not find the requested page:</p> <blockquote> 50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ (port 80) </blockquote> <p> Please forward this error screen to 50.61.240.200's <a href="mailto:servers@arvixe.com?subject=Error message [404] 404 Not Found for 50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ port 80 on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2011 22:00:07 PDT">
WebMaster</a>. </p> <hr />
Wait, I've seen that somewhere... Of course, this is where OnlyOneTv is hosted! Whois Server Version 2.0 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.netfor detailed information. Domain Name: ONLYONETV.COM Registrar: ENOM, INC. Whois Server: whois.enom.com Referral URL: http://www.enom.com Name Server: NS1.RAVEN.ARVIXE.COM Name Server: NS2.RAVEN.ARVIXE.COM Status: clientTransferProhibited Updated Date: 15-aug-2011 Creation Date: 15-sep-2010 Expiration Date: 15-sep-2012 Bruce, you are a magnet to unfortunate coincidences. All this proves to me is that someone is deliberately trying to make it look like mybitcoin.com is hosted at the some place as onlyonetv.com: Someone changed mybitcoin.com to return a redirect response to the ip address where onlyonetv.com is hosted. I didn't want to get involved in this thread, but felt this needed to be pointed out.
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wolftaur
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August 31, 2011, 05:52:52 AM |
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Someone changed mybitcoin.com to return a redirect response to the ip address where onlyonetv.com is hosted. I didn't want to get involved in this thread, but felt this needed to be pointed out.
I agree. Traceroutes: 10 as6453-pe01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (75.149.228.250) 47.944 ms 49.534 ms 49.439 ms 11 if-9-2131.tcore1.ct8-chicago.as6453.net (206.82.141.170) 48.942 ms 67.788 ms 49.517 ms 12 vlan553.icore1.ct8-chicago.as6453.net (206.82.141.90) 47.954 ms vlan554.icore1.ct8-chicago.as6453.net (206.82.141.150) 49.599 ms vlan553.icore1.ct8-chicago.as6453.net (206.82.141.90) 48.612 ms 13 nyk-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.248.193) 71.004 ms 70.361 ms nyk-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.131.242) 72.189 ms 14 ldn-bb2-link.telia.net (213.248.65.93) 139.773 ms 140.496 ms 141.884 ms 15 adm-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.253.146) 152.392 ms 151.287 ms 181.876 ms 16 adm-b4-link.telia.net (213.155.130.219) 152.629 ms 169.254 ms 159.640 ms 17 leaseweb-ic-129604-adm-b4.c.telia.net (213.248.91.222) 147.229 ms 158.539 ms 147.109 ms 18 te5-4.sr1.sbp.leaseweb.net (62.212.80.45) 149.640 ms 147.511 ms 152.144 ms 19 * * * 20 * * * [^C at sinkhole] And 8 pos-0-5-0-0-pe01.1950stemmons.tx.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.26) 39.947 ms 39.111 ms 39.964 ms 9 208.175.175.97 (208.175.175.97) 38.200 ms 38.468 ms 40.974 ms 10 dpr1-ge-2-0-0.dallasequinix.savvis.net (204.70.204.146) 36.954 ms 37.560 ms 38.237 ms 11 cr2-tengige0-7-5-0.dallas.savvis.net (204.70.196.29) 38.728 ms 38.863 ms 37.956 ms 12 cr2-tengig-0-15-0-0.newyork.savvis.net (204.70.196.118) 81.230 ms 77.316 ms 76.189 ms 13 er1-te-2-0-0.newyork.savvis.net (204.70.197.9) 76.943 ms 75.843 ms 77.936 ms 14 216.89.82.118 (216.89.82.118) 79.441 ms 79.414 ms 81.667 ms 15 208.116.63.206 (208.116.63.206) 78.681 ms 80.528 ms 78.443 ms 16 208.116.63.70 (208.116.63.70) 80.934 ms 81.029 ms 81.435 ms 17 208.116.63.85 (208.116.63.85) 80.437 ms 80.031 ms 78.693 ms 18 50.61.240.200 (50.61.240.200) 79.187 ms 81.212 ms 78.441 ms [end] Completely different regions, route paths, and disposition of probe packets near target.
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August 31, 2011, 06:01:05 AM |
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Strange how mybitcoin.com just went offline. 404 Not Found
The server can not find the requested page:
50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ (port 80)
Please forward this error screen to 50.61.240.200's WebMaster.
404 error page shows it is hosted at Arvixe <h1>404 Not Found</h1> <p>The server can not find the requested page:</p> <blockquote> 50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ (port 80) </blockquote> <p> Please forward this error screen to 50.61.240.200's <a href="mailto:servers@arvixe.com?subject=Error message [404] 404 Not Found for 50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ port 80 on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2011 22:00:07 PDT">
WebMaster</a>. </p> <hr />
Wait, I've seen that somewhere... Of course, this is where OnlyOneTv is hosted! Whois Server Version 2.0 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.netfor detailed information. Domain Name: ONLYONETV.COM Registrar: ENOM, INC. Whois Server: whois.enom.com Referral URL: http://www.enom.com Name Server: NS1.RAVEN.ARVIXE.COM Name Server: NS2.RAVEN.ARVIXE.COM Status: clientTransferProhibited Updated Date: 15-aug-2011 Creation Date: 15-sep-2010 Expiration Date: 15-sep-2012 Bruce, you are a magnet to unfortunate coincidences. All this proves to me is that someone is deliberately trying to make it look like mybitcoin.com is hosted at the some place as onlyonetv.com: Someone changed mybitcoin.com to return a redirect response to the ip address where onlyonetv.com is hosted. I didn't want to get involved in this thread, but felt this needed to be pointed out. Why would someone do that? And than who could have done it?
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Bitcoins - Because we should not pay to use our money
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Chris Acheson
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August 31, 2011, 06:07:47 AM |
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Someone changed mybitcoin.com to return a redirect response to the ip address where onlyonetv.com is hosted. I didn't want to get involved in this thread, but felt this needed to be pointed out.
Well, that's mighty interesting. Makes the "we were hacked" claims even more suspicious.
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sadpandatech
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August 31, 2011, 06:08:54 AM |
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All this proves to me is that someone is deliberately trying to make it look like mybitcoin.com is hosted at the some place as onlyonetv.com: Someone changed mybitcoin.com to return a redirect response to the ip address where onlyonetv.com is hosted. I didn't want to get involved in this thread, but felt this needed to be pointed out. Why would someone do that? And than who could have done it? One could only assume why, to try and make connections that arn't there... The one thing it does mean for sure is the person(s) reponsible for Mybitcoin are still here and following the recent accusations.....
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It is being worked on by smart people. -DamienBlack
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wolftaur
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August 31, 2011, 06:10:26 AM |
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Why would someone do that? And than who could have done it?
Only someone in control of the mybitcoin server could have done that. As to why? If Bruce is COMPLETELY innocent of any wrongdoing in mybitcoin, and the mybitcoin guy just used Bruce as an easy pawn... If Bruce is COMPLETELY innocent in the mybitcoin stuff and the mybitcoin guy just by dumb luck managed to have someone busted for fraud be the one promoting him... He's probably going "OH YES THANK YOU GOD THANK YOU JESUS" and doing everything he can to convince us that Bruce _IS_ the mybitcoin operator so we won't try to track down "Tom Williams" any more. It's also entirely possible Bruce is involved after all and just made the dumbest typo or 'shit, wrong window' mistake of his life.
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The_Duke
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August 31, 2011, 06:15:48 AM |
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Hey Moderators,
I would love to see an intelligent answer on how this thread IS NOT directly related to Bitcoin and should be moved to OFF TOPIC.
How much is Bruce paying you guys???
Don't worry, its just the new policy. if topic_title || topic_contents contains "Bruce Wagner" -> Move to random(Meta,Off-Topic).
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August 31, 2011, 06:22:16 AM |
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The "Bruce Wagner = Tod Williams = Tom Williams" seems tenuous at best. Curious to see where this goes, though.
Just like most other large scale scams, there are almost certainly multiple persons behind the MyBitcoin scam. It was so well prepared ahead of time (1+ year of effort), so well organized, etc. For example the Bitcoin Police did a pretty good job of linking MyBitcoin to Dalin Owen: http://bitcoin.crimeunit.net/wiki/index.php/MyBitcoin_Summary- Dalin clearly has the technical skills to develop the technology running a site like MyBitcoin, especially given the technical security measures that were deployed behind it, his background in online security & anonymity, his confessed association with Privacy Sharks, etc.
- Bruce would have the entrepreneurial mind and creativity to invent MyBitcoin, plan the operation, manage it, promote it via his show, etc, especially given his confession of running Bold Funding Inc and public court records demonstrating he defrauded his customers.
Therefore one could imagine Dalin and Bruce (and perhaps others) being the guys running MyBitcoin, with Tod/Tom Williams being an alias used by either Dalin or Bruce over multiple years in different situations (the brain is a poor source of entropy, people inventing fake names re-use the same ones, etc). (There is so much drama and so many stories happening in the Bitcoin community, wow.)
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August 31, 2011, 06:24:46 AM |
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The integrity of the moderators is as questionable as Bruce Wagner at this point.
That's a stretch, unless Theymos was convicted of fraud in a mortgage assistance scam too.
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