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May 24, 2018, 11:26:18 AM
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Bitmixer. Was one of the best mixers around and sad it shut down.

Agreed. It was an extremely good service while it lasted, but it got shut down from regulatory pressures.

Although with the emerging mixers in Chipmixer, bitblender and Privcoin, it's not really that huge of a deal tbh.

Agreed. Many more have come to fill that void, and many more are coming up. I'm unashamedly of the opinion that Chipmixer happens to be a superior offering, with all due respect to Bitmixer's past dominance. When was the last time you saw a mixing service innovate the way Chipmixer did (and is still attempting to do?).

Even the ones launching this week (if I trust PRs floating around) are still doing things the old way that Bitmixer did. Not that there's anything wrong with the old way... but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.
Chipmixer very much filled the void, it was a great move on their part to keep pushing their service when bitmixer got shut down. Really showed their dominance, and  the stream of other mixers that arose where all squashed (bitcloak, privcoin, bitmixcoin).

Although bit blender is still a very reliable and old mixer.

I've personally resorted to privcoin for eth mixing and chipmixer for normal BTC mixing. Work's like a charm.

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May 24, 2018, 11:33:11 AM
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but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.
Definitely, but that applies to ChipMixer as well. It's fairly easy to locate and monitor the fixed chip values, and from there I hope that eventually the chip values will change from time to time to become less common.

Or maybe that we can initiate a mixing session and request a custom chip value to obtain a bit more randomness. But as we speak, the only mixing service I have confidence in is ChipMixer.

Obviously, there is a bias from my side because I wear their signature, but it doesn't happen very often that people wear a signature from a service they are actually using and genuinely like. Bitmixer fits in there as well.

In most cases people are only interested in the payments and they don't care what they advertise for, but I am happy that I can promote a service offering a fundamental necessity for the community. Privacy is precious.

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May 25, 2018, 08:18:21 AM
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but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.
Definitely, but that applies to ChipMixer as well. It's fairly easy to locate and monitor the fixed chip values, and from there I hope that eventually the chip values will change from time to time to become less common.

Or maybe that we can initiate a mixing session and request a custom chip value to obtain a bit more randomness. But as we speak, the only mixing service I have confidence in is ChipMixer.

Obviously, there is a bias from my side because I wear their signature, but it doesn't happen very often that people wear a signature from a service they are actually using and genuinely like. Bitmixer fits in there as well.

In most cases people are only interested in the payments and they don't care what they advertise for, but I am happy that I can promote a service offering a fundamental necessity for the community. Privacy is precious.

I think even ChipMixer acknowledged that ease of detection using fixed chip values, but did note that as time passed and demand/volume increased, these fixed amounts would be near negligible. I'm not convinced of that myself, to be honest, I suspect the most sophisticated software could probably track down some of my use on it, probably not to me, but at least to my habits on using the service.

Maybe we should recommend a random changing of values from time to time as you suggest.

Yeah, bias from us naturally as incentivised supporters. But that also comes with the confidence of having the service itself back up the advantages we claim. Once Bitcoin moves past its scaling issues, privacy will really be the next area of focus.

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May 25, 2018, 01:48:04 PM
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I'm just doing a little survey about what you guys are missing as a service since almost every single idea every single thought is already taken, so why not ask the user himself.

What are you guys missing ? Huh
Some kind of arbitrage service that compares real time prices of altcoins on different exchanges which you choose from the list.

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May 25, 2018, 02:05:54 PM
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but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.
Definitely, but that applies to ChipMixer as well. It's fairly easy to locate and monitor the fixed chip values, and from there I hope that eventually the chip values will change from time to time to become less common.

Or maybe that we can initiate a mixing session and request a custom chip value to obtain a bit more randomness. But as we speak, the only mixing service I have confidence in is ChipMixer.

Obviously, there is a bias from my side because I wear their signature, but it doesn't happen very often that people wear a signature from a service they are actually using and genuinely like. Bitmixer fits in there as well.

In most cases people are only interested in the payments and they don't care what they advertise for, but I am happy that I can promote a service offering a fundamental necessity for the community. Privacy is precious.

Haha good promo reply for chipmixer team mate. Since you wearing the Chipmixer campaign signature and doing it better bro. Your manager may reward you specially for it. Wink Wink Wink I think we missed many services with the crypto currency still.
I think two things which can be achieved still we did not find in many places.
Using the automated escrow for the payment on every trading site and this forum as well. Next to that bitcoin payment on regular shopping websites.
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May 26, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
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Using the automated escrow for the payment on every trading site and this forum as well. Next to that bitcoin payment on regular shopping websites.

This would be actually something really useful for this forum now that you mentioned it! I know Bitcoin isn't the best blockchain for smart contracts... and also realise this was a deliberate design, but I know there is some functionality and it would be nice to have some kind of simple open source smart contract for trustless escrow for Bitcoin. Yes, that would be a huge service with possibly the highest unmet demand.

Otherwise, the type of multisig escrows on some marketplaces would also work, but it still requires some degree of trust in that marketplace...

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