How to get Merit – Cashi's useful tips from a Newbie for Newbies

[Cashi]

The last days I’ve done some research to find out, how you can write quality posts to get Merit – even as a Newbie. I’m a Newbie too and I saw some Newbies very disappointed because they haven’t any merit yet, even their activity would be enough to be a full member. My advice: don't be discouraged!  

The new Merit system might be very disappointing for new Members but I think it is necessary to get this forum rid from cheaters and improve the posting-quality. The Merit system is still at the beginning and after all I read about it, it is working and we have still the possibility to improve it by slight changes, like there is a very low amount of sMerit in circulation. So let’s have a try and do some good posts.


Maybe the following points can be helpful for you:


* The first time if you signed up it is also an option to read only and if you have more experience you can write your first comments.

* Before you post something, read the last comments. Double posts are very annoying. It takes some time to read the comments before, but you’ll see it is necessary to avoid double posts. And if you read all the comments you will recognize how many annoying double posts there are sometimes.

* Don’t try to write something if your only intention is to write something, this will end up in spamming and is very annoying to read. Only leave a post if you have something to say. Sometimes it is better to write nothing instead of writing shitposts.

* Be polite when you are writing – pointless accusations are not welcome here. We all want serious discussions which are worthwile for this forum. Rude comments and trolling will dishonor itself.

* Read the rules before posting, so you can avoid trouble and missunderstandings.

* Maybe it’s better to avoid posts the first time, which requires specialized knowledge in crypto space. Try to focus on general things you are sure you know about. It makes no sense to write comments if you are not experienced in that topic. I would recommend to start at first with the basics and very important: try to educate yourself by reading different sources and get to know how crypto works.
Even a good move could be if you report spammers, scammers and merit-traders; they have made the Merit system necessary.

* There is no need, that good posts are long. Sometimes short but meaningful posts are better than long stories.

* Improve your English and your writing quality. A post full of grammar and spelling mistakes will get less Merit, even if it’s a good one. TMAN has done a very helpful post here about how you can improve your English: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0

* Please proofread your post before submitting or even proofread it after submitting and edit the mistakes, if you find some. By doing so, you can erase lots of avoidable mistakes.

* The most important rule is to help other forum members – this is, why this forum exists. You can ask questions and get help, if you have issues. You can inform yourself about different topics. Users are sharing their experiences they have made to protect others from their mistakes or something useful they found out. If you are polite and helpful your posts will be merited by time.



Although I am a Newbie, I hope it will help you a little bit. I have read a lot and noticed good things but also annoying shitposts. This advice is just my point of view to write essential quality posts. If you have something to add I would be pleased if you share it.  


Here are some points added from the discussion below:


* Try to create unique posts. Some topics that have not been discussed yet.

* If you quote another person please avoid mega-quotes. If you quote the whole original post with all re-quotes, your post could be very long. To replace mega-qoutes and avoid over-qouting you can write instead of them ~ or snip
Regarding this issue you can find a tutorial here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3749076

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[theyoungmillionaire]

Why do I have a feeling that you’re one of those old members with no merit(s) but with so many activities and needs to create a new account to start things over again for merits? Anyway, I might be wrong, my friend. Members are looking for new topics to discuss and your topic is just one of those we read every day in this forum. Uniqueness is the new trend for merit system not the same old topic(s). Good effort though.

[lobcmt2]

You might be right at some extent!
Most of forum users tend to have prejudice with old accounts which can not earn any merit several months after the launch of merit system.
Of course, such unable-to-earn-merit accounts are deserved to get bad feelings from higher ranked members because about 4 months after launch day of merit system, they have shown that they are lacked of capability to compose high quality, constructive threads to earn merits from others in the forum.

Why do I have a feeling that you’re one of those old members with no merit(s) but with so many activities and needs to create a new account to start things over again for merits? Anyway, I might be wrong, my friend.

However, I don't recommend them to start with new account, instead of changing their attitudes first. This one is more important because they won't go further with new account if they will keep their current mindset, keep posting shitshows in the forum.

[Maus0728]

I also want to add this style of posting, lots of members here are quoting the whole OP which leads to a more dirty forum, I feel like they are doing it because they want their post to be look like a well created, constructive post. If we can avoid this, we can easily see whose members are worth giving merit.

[LKingLion]

To be honest with you I thought the author of this topic got huge merit but I feel disappointed seeing you op no merit yet. Then how could you be an effective advisor if you yourself didn't have any merit. Fuck!

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Why do I have a feeling that you’re one of those old members with no merit(s) but with so many activities and needs to create a new account to start things over again for merits?

Because it looks like that, although I give him the benefit of doubt. But I think after so many posts,about how to get merit either the best one or a good summary of them should be stickied, and if someone has somthing to add, it shoul be added in a comment, and then if it really is a useful contribution it shoul be added edited in the first post. Otherwise a year from now we will still be getting posts like this hoping to get merit.

[Kim Ji Won]

I feel like they are doing it because they want their post to be look like a well created, constructive post.

If that's what they are thinking, then their ignorance is really on a whole new level. They should learn using "~snip~" or just quote the sentences that they want to emphasize in their reply. No need for quoting the whole OP again.

To be honest with you I thought the author of this topic got huge merit but I feel disappointed seeing you op no merit yet. Then how could you be an effective advisor if you yourself didn't have any merit. Fuck!

Although the OP will be helpful for newbies, there are already a lot of topics with the same content in the forum and I'm sure that right now, most of the members know how to earn merit for themselves, they are just lazy to do so.

[LKingLion]

Wow in just a minutes you've got merit after saying you don't!
Well, pardon me if I think like that about you.

To be honest with you I thought the author of this topic got huge merit but I feel disappointed seeing you op no merit yet. Then how could you be an effective advisor if you yourself didn't have any merit. Fuck!

I said that because you don't have merit awhile ago but Now you have a merit in just a minute still I'm thinking maybe that's your alt. 

[sheenshane]

To be honest with you I thought the author of this topic got huge merit but I feel disappointed seeing you op no merit yet. Then how could you be an effective advisor if you yourself didn't have any merit. Fuck!

Although the OP will be helpful for newbies, there are already a lot of topics with the same content in the forum and I'm sure that right now, most of the members know how to earn merit for themselves, they are just lazy to do so.

Yeah, they are know how to earn merits but being laziness make them ignore the merit source.
I most likely give a smerit those genuine post that helpful for the community especially newbies.

I doubt this OP that he is not a real newbie, something alt account.

I said that because you don't have merit awhile ago but Now you have a merit in just a minute still I'm thinking maybe that's your alt. 

That was also in my mind but it seems we can't prove it here now so much better to watch out.

[eddie13]

* Improve your English and your writing quality. A post full of grammar and spelling mistakes will get less Merit, even if it’s a good one.

It actually does look like you are paying a lot of attention to your capitalization and punctuation, trying hard, but a bit overboard with the commas..
You have some weird wording yet too like..
"These advices are" should be "This advice is" or "These pieces of advice are" as I don't think their is such a thing as "advices"..
"posts. And if you" You should almost never start a sentence with and or but. They go after commas for the most part..  
"posts. If you" starting a new sentence this way is more proper..

The last days I’ve done some research to find out, how you can write quality posts to get Merit – even as a Newbie.
The last days I’ve done some research to find out how you can write quality posts to get merit, even as a Newbie.

I’m a Newbie too and I saw some Newbies very disappointed, because they haven’t any merit yet, even their activity would be enough to be a full member. My advice: don't be discouraged!
I’m a Newbie too and I saw some Newbies very disappointed because they haven’t received any merit yet even though their activity is enough to be a full member. My advice: don't be discouraged!

Before you post something, read the last comments. Double posts are very ennoying. It takes some time to read the comments before, but you’ll see it is necessary to avoid double posts. And if you read all the comments you will recognize, how many ennoying double posts there are sometimes.
Before you post something read the last comments. Double posts are very annoying. It takes some time to read the comments first but you’ll see it is necessary to avoid double posts. If you read all the comments you will recognize how many annoying double posts there are sometimes.

Just a couple examples..

I'll tell you what OP. PM me in a few months or so after you have worked hard on your English, when you are ready, show me how much you have improved, and if I think you have made good progress to better yourself I will give you merits for it.. Maybe a bunch if I have them..

To be honest with you I thought the author of this topic got huge merit but I feel disappointed seeing you op no merit yet. Then how could you be an effective advisor if you yourself didn't have any merit. Fuck!

You made me LOL

You are right but OP does make good points..

[o_e_l_e_o]

People with no merit making threads about how to earn merit is the new "people with no merit telling others with no merit that the merit system is good" disguise for merit begging.

[kmil91712]

Why do I have a feeling that you’re one of those old members with no merit(s) but with so many activities and needs to create a new account to start things over again for merits? Anyway, I might be wrong, my friend. Members are looking for new topics to discuss and your topic is just one of those we read every day in this forum. Uniqueness is the new trend for merit system not the same old topic(s). Good effort though.

Thanks you for this. I have been constantly checking my stats to see if I gained any merits. I guess I gotta dig deeper.

[Cashi]

Why do I have a feeling that you’re one of those old members with no merit(s) but with so many activities and needs to create a new account to start things over again for merits? Anyway, I might be wrong, my friend. Members are looking for new topics to discuss and your topic is just one of those we read every day in this forum. Uniqueness is the new trend for merit system not the same old topic(s). Good effort though.

First thank you for your comment. But no, I'm not an old member with no Merits, I only tried to sum up some helfpul points. It is true there are lots of posts about Merit but I think I've brought something new here we hadn't before. Time will tell if this post is helpful or not.
You seems to be one of the luckiest members here if we have a look at your Merits. So thank your for your advice to focus on unique posts. I wish you good luck, too.

I also want to add this style of posting, lots of members here are quoting the whole OP which leads to a more dirty forum, I feel like they are doing it because they want their post to be look like a well created, constructive post. If we can avoid this, we can easily see whose members are worth giving merit.

Thanks, noted. I'll collect and add it later. Thank you very much for this constructive-minded post! 

To be honest with you I thought the author of this topic got huge merit but I feel disappointed seeing you op no merit yet. Then how could you be an effective advisor if you yourself didn't have any merit. Fuck!

If you don't think my points are useful, you can make your own list. No problem.

Because it looks like that, although I give him the benefit of doubt. But I think after so many posts,about how to get merit either the best one or a good summary of them should be stickied, and if someone has somthing to add, it shoul be added in a comment, and then if it really is a useful contribution it shoul be added edited in the first post. Otherwise a year from now we will still be getting posts like this hoping to get merit.

That's true. I'll try to collect some good points and add it later to the first post.

Yeah, they are know how to earn merits but being laziness make them ignore the merit source.
I most likely give a smerit those genuine post that helpful for the community especially newbies.

I doubt this OP that he is not a real newbie, something alt account.

I said that because you don't have merit awhile ago but Now you have a merit in just a minute still I'm thinking maybe that's your alt.  

That was also in my mind but it seems we can't prove it here now so much better to watch out.

Why do you think that? There are no connections trading Merit. Please avoid these accusations of Merit trading if you have no proof. This ist only speculation and a hard accusation.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm not about to take advice on how to earn merit from someone with no merit.  Bear in mind that OP had none until his post here got 2 merits from eddie13.  Aside from that, OP is fairly poorly-written, with grammar and spelling that are sub-par AND most of what's written won't help anyone earn merits at all.

Also, OP, all of this has been said many times before.  It's obvious you're trawling for merit here like you're trying to pick up a girl at a bar with your (fake) gold chains and leisure suit, trying to impress her with slick talk in a language you're not entirely comfortable with.  Your post is bloated mess, actually.  So take that to heart and have fun with the merit you earned here.  

People with no merit making threads about how to earn merit is the new "people with no merit telling others with no merit that the merit system is good" disguise for merit begging.

That's what I'm talking about.  I probably should've read your post before I made mine, but I wanted to blast OP as fast as I could.  lol

And yes, maybe my article about Merit is a little bit late here.

It's not a little bit late, it's way too late.  It's like trying to now revive George Washington's corpse with shock paddles.

[KingScorpio]

do bitcoin cheerleading,

[Cashi]

* Improve your English and your writing quality. A post full of grammar and spelling mistakes will get less Merit, even if it’s a good one.

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Thanks 
Yes, I'm not native english speaking and there are still some mistakes. Thank you for correcting them. I hope I can improve writing quality step by step.

Great offer, I hope I do not disappoint you. Maybe you read some of my posts in the future and see there is a progress. And thank you very much for this constructive-minded post here among these other speculations.

All the best! 

People with no merit making threads about how to earn merit is the new "people with no merit telling others with no merit that the merit system is good" disguise for merit begging.

No, no, that is not begging for merit, don't say this. I've tried to make some good points, if you don't like them it's ok. And yes, maybe my article about Merit is a little bit late here.

[Cashi]

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm not about to take advice on how to earn merit from someone with no merit.  Bear in mind that OP had none until his post here got 2 merits from eddie13.  Aside from that, OP is fairly poorly-written, with grammar and spelling that are sub-par AND most of what's written won't help anyone earn merits at all.

Also, OP, all of this has been said many times before.  It's obvious you're trawling for merit here like you're trying to pick up a girl at a bar with your (fake) gold chains and leisure suit, trying to impress her with slick talk in a language you're not entirely comfortable with.  Your post is bloated mess, actually.  So take that to heart and have fun with the merit you earned here.  

People with no merit making threads about how to earn merit is the new "people with no merit telling others with no merit that the merit system is good" disguise for merit begging.

That's what I'm talking about.  I probably should've read your post before I made mine, but I wanted to blast OP as fast as I could.  lol

For sure, I'll try to improve my posting quality. Maybe we can move this to beginners and help if someone is interested in having a look at it. Please give new members a chance, even if they are not native english speaking. May I ask if you are native english speaking?

And yes, maybe my article about Merit is a little bit late here.

It's not a little bit late, it's way too late.  It's like trying to now revive George Washington's corpse with shock paddles.

Yes, I only tried to sum up good points as a Newbie. I don't know this is not desirable in this way here.

[detector]

When people still think about merit, it means that they are old player and most of them are try to leveling/farming their account.
Genuine poster will worry about merit because it's come automatically

[Sova_tmb]

Good start mate, you wrote 14 message and already have  2 merits.

[KingScorpio]

Again do bitcoin cheerleading the desperate and uncertain bitcoin holders here pay merit for all those that mentally supports them

You want me to demonstrate and get some merit deliberately by bitcoin cheerleading?