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September 01, 2011, 06:13:17 AM
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I know they can grab .com's, I assume .net and .org just the same.   Bodog casino had their .com snagged, they moved to .eu so I assume these are safe.  However, I am guessing you don't want to buy it from a US based domain registrar as they could be forced into revealing who owns it and into taking it down.  Can anyone recommend a registrar that I'll be reasonably safe from the US government?  And for that matter, a hosting company with inexpensive VPS servers that won't cooperate with the feds?
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September 01, 2011, 06:28:45 AM
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ahh so thats what namecoins r about? buying anonymous websites so u can broadcast what u want. nicice.. thought they were some type of scam. ill look into this. very interesting.

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September 01, 2011, 07:18:46 AM
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Buy .cc domain

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September 01, 2011, 02:24:48 PM
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.cc is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Cocos (Keeling) Islands, an Australian territory. It is administered by VeriSign through a subsidiary company eNIC

Not so sure it's immune to being taken offline. But probably safer than a .com

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September 02, 2011, 03:38:05 AM
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.cc feels scammy to me at a glance.  I like .eu, just don't know a good place to buy the domain and hosting.   Like, where is thepiratebay hosted, or some bitcoin casinos or similar
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September 02, 2011, 03:46:14 AM
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I would say just learn how to host your website through the Tor network, People can still access it via the tor2web out proxy.


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September 02, 2011, 04:19:18 AM
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.cc feels scammy to me at a glance.  I like .eu, just don't know a good place to buy the domain and hosting.   Like, where is thepiratebay hosted, or some bitcoin casinos or similar

.co.cc is probably what was being referred to. It's not a TLD in itself, but a South Korean company specializing in free web domains provided under the co.cc TOS. Sites registered with these domains will look like x.co.cc, where x is the domain name you provided at the moment of registration. Sites registered here are also removed from Google search results, which you can use to somewhat augment your privacy.

As for the ideal domain/VPS integration you want to use, you're probably going to keep getting vague answers until people know exactly what you want to use the site for. Unless you're involved in illicit drugs, porn, or plan to have a static repository for copyrighted material, I don't think you have enough reason to be concerned about federal law enforcement touching your online content.

I would say just learn how to host your website through the Tor network, People can still access it via the tor2web out proxy.

His site could be down or unusable for inexcusable amounts of time owing to the heavy traffic transmitted over Tor, just saying. Additionally, any interruption in Tor service on his end would disrupt the site.
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September 02, 2011, 04:26:48 AM
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I know they can grab .com's, I assume .net and .org just the same.   Bodog casino had their .com snagged, they moved to .eu so I assume these are safe.  However, I am guessing you don't want to buy it from a US based domain registrar as they could be forced into revealing who owns it and into taking it down.  Can anyone recommend a registrar that I'll be reasonably safe from the US government?  And for that matter, a hosting company with inexpensive VPS servers that won't cooperate with the feds?

This is what namecoin was made for (at least the domain registration part), for now I think they just do .bit addresses but from what I have read they should be able to handle others but don't quote me on that last part :-D

Namecoins are the way to go.
Although right now theres only a small handful of technically savvy people who use/know what they are, hopefully theyll catch on. (so if your website doesnt target that audience I wouldn't put to much stock in it).
But ultimately it's a dns type pointer that a government can't cease. Although the end user needs to know about the .bit dns entry.
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September 02, 2011, 05:41:31 AM
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You could try Offshore web-hosting but limits you to only pornography and torrents/piracy. The best choice is hosting on .tor

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September 02, 2011, 05:44:29 AM
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Depending on who you buy from, .ru would be your best bet.
Lots of ISP's I know block .ru Tongue

http://www.101domains.com/ <use this to find available domains

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September 02, 2011, 06:00:03 AM
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just don't use a .mil Wink
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September 02, 2011, 11:51:53 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6427.0

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September 02, 2011, 12:26:59 PM
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I'm reasonably sure that they can grab anything they want to. Recently, they actually arrested and charged a US citizen with the murder of his wife. Normal, until you consider that the crime was committed, planned and executed in my country. Our government did not consider the evidence worthy of an arrest at this time. He went home and... Is charged with killing his wife in another country.

Think about that when you ask questions regarding where you can get a domain that the US cannot touch.

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September 02, 2011, 12:32:30 PM
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^^ worth noting that they twisted something so that because her life insurance policy was taken out in the US the 'conspiracy' part of the charge actually hols up. Be warned, they can twist this so you can be charged despite where your site actually is.
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September 02, 2011, 04:19:15 PM
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Government can block access to your site, legal or not.
I haven't seen this happen in USA or Canada, but think pretty much ANY OTHER country.

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September 05, 2011, 06:50:07 PM
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Hi,

My opinion is a little biased but I would recommend you to look into OrangeWebsite.com. They are Iceland based hosting providers, offering shared-, VPS-, dedicated hosting solutions and domain registration services outside of the USA. You can sign up 100% anonymously and use Bitcoin as a payment method.

Hosting your website in Iceland is something you might want to consider. They are famous of their ultra modern online freedom of expression legislation and strict privacy policy.

P.S. It should be alright for you to use .com .net, .org domains, just use a domain registrar outside of USA.  Wink
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September 06, 2011, 05:43:23 PM
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Hi,

My opinion is a little biased but I would recommend you to look into OrangeWebsite.com. They are Iceland based hosting providers, offering shared-, VPS-, dedicated hosting solutions and domain registration services outside of the USA. You can sign up 100% anonymously and use Bitcoin as a payment method.

Hosting your website in Iceland is something you might want to consider. They are famous of their ultra modern online freedom of expression legislation and strict privacy policy.

P.S. It should be alright for you to use .com .net, .org domains, just use a domain registrar outside of USA.  Wink

This sounds pretty good.  To people asking what I will be doing with the hosting, I want to host a bitcoin casino, but owning an online casino in the United States is illegal, and the domains regularly get seized by the US Gov (bodog.com, pokerstars.com, fulltiltpoker.com, etc) and the operators get arrested
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November 05, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
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Hi,

My opinion is a little biased but I would recommend you to look into OrangeWebsite.com. They are Iceland based hosting providers, offering shared-, VPS-, dedicated hosting solutions and domain registration services outside of the USA. You can sign up 100% anonymously and use Bitcoin as a payment method.

Hosting your website in Iceland is something you might want to consider. They are famous of their ultra modern online freedom of expression legislation and strict privacy policy.

P.S. It should be alright for you to use .com .net, .org domains, just use a domain registrar outside of USA.  Wink

That seems to be good option, but i have to ask, who are they reselling?
After all ICANN is us based and don't they have control over all domains? or they give jurisdiction to specific countries?


also JohnnyCashout since bitcoin is not actually money according to the governments, if a casino is taking only bitcoins is it still illegal?
I'm not well informed on the topic but legally playing a game with bitcoin should be the same as using money in farmville on facebook or i'm missing an angle here?

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November 05, 2012, 05:40:51 PM
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Hi,

My opinion is a little biased but I would recommend you to look into OrangeWebsite.com. They are Iceland based hosting providers, offering shared-, VPS-, dedicated hosting solutions and domain registration services outside of the USA. You can sign up 100% anonymously and use Bitcoin as a payment method.

Hosting your website in Iceland is something you might want to consider. They are famous of their ultra modern online freedom of expression legislation and strict privacy policy.

P.S. It should be alright for you to use .com .net, .org domains, just use a domain registrar outside of USA.  Wink

Yeah what this guy said. I used them a few times.
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November 05, 2012, 06:43:33 PM
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I smell next forum or other shit involved in fraud.

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