SolidCoin 1.04 Released [Hardened Edition]

[Jimmy2011]

Don't forget the new license text:

Copyright (c) 2011 SolidCoin Developers

All changes made by SolidCoin developers require express permission to be used
in other projects, including original the Bitcoin project.

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Code:

// Copyright (c) 2009-2010 Satoshi Nakamoto
// Copyright (c) 2011 The SolidCoin developers
// Distributed under the MIT/X11 software license, see the accompanying
// file license.txt or http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php.

I think this doc/readme.txt is meaningless bull shit because the code is still under the MIT/X11 software license and this stupid joke is not relicensing it.

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[EskimoBob]

yes, those idiots just pissed off the largest Solidcoin exchange too with this license change.

Bitparking SolidCoin Exchange

The latest release of SolidCoin, v1.04, has a licence change that requires permission from the SolidCoin developers to use any changes they've made. The text can be seen in my analysis of the changes on github. The SolidCoin developers response to queries about this is "If you don't like it, don't use the source code, simple really".

For my projects I'm often custom building variants of SolidCoin and Bitcoin. I don't want to have to ask permission to use code and prefer to use open source licensed projects. For that reason I've decided to close this SolidCoin Exchange. Withdrawals will be enabled for a period of time to enable you to get your funds of the site. Other exchanges you can use (but I don't recommend or vouch for) are:

    Mooncoin
    btc-e.com
    Solidcoin24

[d.james]

Copyright (c) 2011 SolidCoin Developers

All changes made by SolidCoin developers require express permission to be used
in other projects, including original the Bitcoin project.

PLEASE REMOVE ALL ORIGINAL BITCOIN CODES FROM YOUR PROJECT.

[caston]

Yeah unless the price goes ballistic on 24 or moonco.in... will be interesting to watch.

[Jimmy2011]

Don't forget the new license text:

Copyright (c) 2011 SolidCoin Developers

All changes made by SolidCoin developers require express permission to be used
in other projects, including original the Bitcoin project.

What are exactly the changes you refer to? CoinHunter, can you file it to a patent? You should know it is just an idea, a small idea, you can't forbid someone to use it if one wants to, and actually nobody will use it when you claimed it. Anyone will not copy it directly if want, and can just change the parameters with understanding its meaning if it has. Now, this guy make himself enemy with the community.

[pbj sammich]

Don't forget the new license text:

Copyright (c) 2011 SolidCoin Developers

All changes made by SolidCoin developers require express permission to be used
in other projects, including original the Bitcoin project.

Nice, real nice. Way to fork an open-source project and turn it to something that's no longer open source. Is that even allowed?

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[Artamir]

wow, this "licence change" realy made the price drop, lol

[smoothie]

wow, this "licence change" realy made the price drop, lol

What price? Which exchange? lol...

[caston]

wow, this "licence change" realy made the price drop, lol

What price? Which exchange? lol...

People are dumping them on moonco.in

https://moonco.in/exchange/solidcoin

Last Trade 0.0030
High Bid 0.0030
Low Ask 0.0031
Volume 20937.2924 SC
High 0.0400
Low 0.0011
Avg 0.0206

[caston]

Although this could be a double edged sword for us. People could be transferring BTC from the two exchanges to mtgox where their could be a sudden glut of BTC for sale.

[Artamir]

If he now buys those SCs cheap, and then undoes the "licence" and works for a price raise again, is that considered "insider trading" ?

[johnj]

Although this could be a double edged sword for us. People could be transferring BTC from the two exchanges to mtgox where their could be a sudden glut of BTC for sale.

If anything, BTC would go *up*, since SC just sank.

[smoothie]

If he now buys those SCs cheap, and then undoes the "licence" and works for a price raise again, is that considered "insider trading" ?

I'm not sure DoubleC is going to reopen the exchange after all that has transpired. I could be wrong though.

[The Electric Monk]

Guys, SC can still recover from this.  Change it back to an open liscence and take down that nasty article on BTC.  People will find it more respectable, and it'll make it easier to accept a new cryptocurrency.  You have to pick your battles.

[Artamir]

Although this could be a double edged sword for us. People could be transferring BTC from the two exchanges to mtgox where their could be a sudden glut of BTC for sale.

Actually yes, what what i liked most about the other chains was, that they pulled off GPU power from bitcoin, so its difficulty was not rising that fast anymore.


Btw, did i oversee something, i thought at the 1st of September ruxum started to trade SC.
Was at their page this morning, but there was no SC to select for trading.

Edit: just found the ruxum topic

[smoothie]

Guys, SC can still recover from this.  Change it back to an open liscence and take down that nasty article on BTC.  People will find it more respectable, and it'll make it easier to accept a new cryptocurrency.  You have to pick your battles.

I disagree. Solidcoin's founder's motives were clear: Decieve, overlook incompetence, bash bitcoin and other developers even his own users and critics that were solidcoin users.

It will take a long time before people's confidence go back into coinhunter/realsolid.

[EskimoBob]

Guys, SC can still recover from this.  Change the code back to an open liscence and take down that nasty article on BTC.  People will find it more respectable, and it will make it easier to accept a new cryptocurrency.  You have to pick your battles.

I had a similar idea but then I realized, that we are asking a 16? years old dip shit (acts like 12), with a bruised ego, to say he is sorry for all the stupid things he as done and apologise. He is probably too stupid to even understand what he has done wrong.
 
Time to move on an forget he even exists.

I have a better idea Find a nice and clean way how to kick this softy RealSolid off this project and move on with a some grownup developers. 
This is probably the only way how to save this project and all the time wasted on building exchanges etc etc.

[The Electric Monk]

Guys, SC can still recover from this.  Change it back to an open liscence and take down that nasty article on BTC.  People will find it more respectable, and it'll make it easier to accept a new cryptocurrency.  You have to pick your battles.

I disagree. Solidcoin's founder's motives were clear: Decieve, overlook incompetence, bash bitcoin and other developers even his own users and critics that were solidcoin users.

It will take a long time before people's confidence go back into coinhunter/realsolid.

Deciept isn't a motive.  If they dial back that stuff SC will do ok in the long run.

[johnj]

Honest Questions:

1) Why can't they be explained sooner?

2) If they can't be explained sooner, why will it be weeks until it is?

3) If the information of the reasonings/math/simulations/whatever involved with the design of SC isn't availabe yet, what exactly are people investing in now?  Hype?

1) Because there are more important things to do like code at the moment. Especially when I'm getting 100s of pms and emails
2) ^
3) Because not everyone needs explaining for why they are better. Maybe some hype. I can't try and determine why SC is so popular right now when I've only done about 20% of the changes I've wanted and thought would be required to get more people moving to the better network.

Well Gee guy, looks like you don't want to tell anyone your reasonings because you have no idea what you're doing.

BTW, I don't want to get caught up in your new license, so if you see me say 'SC', I'm talkin bout those ShitCoins, or ScammyCoins, or those sLOLCoins (I made that last one up).

[Bobnova]

Can't close an open source thing without removing all open source code from it.  What CH/RS did was put up an illegal and illegitimate message in a readme file, which not only can safely be ignored but should be ignored.

All in all I'm impressed to the lengths he'll go to to crash his own blockchain, and I have to wonder why.
I also have to wonder why I thought the price would go back up from 0.01.  So much for that money.