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September 04, 2011, 05:13:53 PM
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Solidcoin violates the MIT licence

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Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they keep laughing, then they start choking on their laughter, and then they go and catch their breath. Then they start laughing even more.
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September 04, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
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Is Bitcoin under this license?

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September 04, 2011, 05:20:37 PM
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Solidcoin violates the MIT licence

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Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

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There doesn't seem to be any need for a lawyer. Simply ignore the new invalid demands and should anyone take you to court get a lawyer then. They will lose and have to pay your costs.

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September 04, 2011, 11:30:31 PM
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You can find it good or bad what CoinHunter did, but it's not illigal. You may use MIT-licensed code and re-distribute a changed version under whichever license you want. You just have to leave something like "contains Bitcoin code (http://blabla, licensed under MIT license)".

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September 05, 2011, 07:10:18 AM
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You can find it good or bad what CoinHunter did, but it's not illigal. You may use MIT-licensed code and re-distribute a changed version under whichever license you want. You just have to leave something like "contains Bitcoin code (http://blabla, licensed under MIT license)".

I took a bit of a look at that. CoinHunter broke the terms of the Berkeley DB license. Berkeley DB may only be used in FOSS projects, unless he pays Oracle for a commercial license.

CoinHunter's closing the source means he can't use Berkeley DB, but he still is.

"MOOOOOOOM! SOME MYTHICAL WOLFBEAST GUY IS MAKING FUN OF ME ON THE INTERNET!!!!"
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September 05, 2011, 07:23:18 AM
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You can find it good or bad what CoinHunter did, but it's not illigal. You may use MIT-licensed code and re-distribute a changed version under whichever license you want. You just have to leave something like "contains Bitcoin code (http://blabla, licensed under MIT license)".

I took a bit of a look at that. CoinHunter broke the terms of the Berkeley DB license. Berkeley DB may only be used in FOSS projects, unless he pays Oracle for a commercial license.

CoinHunter's closing the source means he can't use Berkeley DB, but he still is.

Does Oracle know about this? I wonder how long it will be until someone tells them?

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September 05, 2011, 07:27:10 AM
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You can find it good or bad what CoinHunter did, but it's not illigal. You may use MIT-licensed code and re-distribute a changed version under whichever license you want. You just have to leave something like "contains Bitcoin code (http://blabla, licensed under MIT license)".

I took a bit of a look at that. CoinHunter broke the terms of the Berkeley DB license. Berkeley DB may only be used in FOSS projects, unless he pays Oracle for a commercial license.

CoinHunter's closing the source means he can't use Berkeley DB, but he still is.

Does Oracle know about this? I wonder how long it will be until someone tells them?

"Hey, Larry? Some mythical wolf beast guy on the internet says someone's using BDB in a closed-source project to make personal profit, and we've got like 10 e-mails from people who say the wolf beast guy told them to mail us."

"MOOOOOOOM! SOME MYTHICAL WOLFBEAST GUY IS MAKING FUN OF ME ON THE INTERNET!!!!"
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September 05, 2011, 09:09:15 AM
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You can find it good or bad what CoinHunter did, but it's not illigal. You may use MIT-licensed code and re-distribute a changed version under whichever license you want. You just have to leave something like "contains Bitcoin code (http://blabla, licensed under MIT license)".

I took a bit of a look at that. CoinHunter broke the terms of the Berkeley DB license. Berkeley DB may only be used in FOSS projects, unless he pays Oracle for a commercial license.

CoinHunter's closing the source means he can't use Berkeley DB, but he still is.

Does Oracle know about this? I wonder how long it will be until someone tells them?

"Hey, Larry? Some mythical wolf beast guy on the internet says someone's using BDB in a closed-source project to make personal profit, and we've got like 10 e-mails from people who say the wolf beast guy told them to mail us."

I think Oracle would care way more about some companies (bitparking, ruxum, mooncoin) using BDB a closed-source commercially project. Companies are way easier to sue and they can be sued for much more money.
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September 05, 2011, 09:13:29 AM
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You can find it good or bad what CoinHunter did, but it's not illigal. You may use MIT-licensed code and re-distribute a changed version under whichever license you want. You just have to leave something like "contains Bitcoin code (http://blabla, licensed under MIT license)".

I took a bit of a look at that. CoinHunter broke the terms of the Berkeley DB license. Berkeley DB may only be used in FOSS projects, unless he pays Oracle for a commercial license.

CoinHunter's closing the source means he can't use Berkeley DB, but he still is.

Does Oracle know about this? I wonder how long it will be until someone tells them?

"Hey, Larry? Some mythical wolf beast guy on the internet says someone's using BDB in a closed-source project to make personal profit, and we've got like 10 e-mails from people who say the wolf beast guy told them to mail us."

I think Oracle would care way more about some companies (bitparking, ruxum, mooncoin) using BDB a closed-source commercially project. Companies are way easier to sue and they can be sued for much more money.


However, these companies have been saying they are building from source,  and bdb is included in most linux distros....  so the

" It does not include source code for modules or files that typically accompany the major components of the operating system on which the executable file runs."

part would apply for them.   They could and probably are building against the dynamically linked version included with the OS.  So they are fine as long as the are not redistributing what they are building.

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