Does Bitcoin need Middle East Peace for growth?

[tgb29]

hi

[guybrushthreepwood]

Does Bitcoin need Middle East Peace for growth?

Um, no. Don't see how that will effect its growth.

[Wilikon]

First of all, if you heard about robert gates latest book, you know the ex secretary of states pretty much says the obama adm made the US allies worry about the commitment of the One's word. At the same time he and his administration made his enemy bolder.

So bitcoin is a witness of all of this.

[Wilikon]

Nuclear war where the Internet is shut off and inconsistent and governments get more control and start balkanizing the Internet. This won't affect Bitcoin?

Has Obama shut down bitcoin?

I see all these conspiracy theories on this forum but the last time I checked the US security agencies and US Banks and all these "evil powers" are willing to work with Bit-coin. What other world leader has provided such vast opportunities for bitcoin entrepreneurs?

Obama did his job. Now it's up to us to create a better financial world.

Obama did his job. Now it is our turn to re build what he destroyed with his friend, the "pacifist" kerry, making this planet even worse than before. Nuclear war will affect a bit more than just "Bit-coin". Maybe it is not fair to criticize the first half white president, but the thing is the
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucY7JOfg6G4


Since when people write bitcoin "Bit-coin"?

[dank]

Peace in the middle east will be obtained after the USDollar collapses to nothing.

If we follow the same principles of a monetary system in the next civilization we create, you can bet wars will follow indefinitely as long as money is a factor in society.

The only true way to acquire global peace is through evolution of the human mind by abandoning our instinctive behavior of greed for a superior action of compassion.

We have been stuck in these cycles of hierarchic societies that all have the same ending, which is them collapsing.  Nothing man made lasts forever.  Albert Einsten would call this insanity as we are doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Are we going to build another financial based society that continues to deprive us of our basic freedoms and jeopardizes the livelihood of the generations to come indefinitely?  Or will we evolve past our concept of greed and work as the single family humanity is?

This is our chance, the time is now.

[dank]

he has allowed marihuana.

He hasn't really stopped raids on dispensaries where it is legal and it's still federally illegal.

The solution is simple.  We govern ourselves.  Two things give power to the government, money and fear.  If we engage in neither, they have no power.

[elektibi75]

I think those two are not related...they shouldn't be...

[guybrushthreepwood]

he has allowed marihuana.

He hasn't really stopped raids on dispensaries where it is legal and it's still federally illegal.

The solution is simple.  We govern ourselves.  Two things give power to the government, money and fear.  If we engage in neither, they have no power.

He pretty much did exactly the opposite of what he originally said about not raiding them and leaving it up to individual states to handle.

[guybrushthreepwood]

The dispensaries shut down were avoiding taxes or not serving the medical community's interests. They deserved to be shut down. Again...Obama helps approve a drug thats been illegal since before WW2 and still receives critism ?

How did he in any way shape or form 'help'?

[dank]

The dispensaries shut down were avoiding taxes or not serving the medical community's interests. They deserved to be shut down. Again...Obama helps approve a drug thats been illegal since before WW2 and still receives critism ?

I want to hear alternative proposals.

If im not going to follow the support our President then who do I follow?

As a practical anarchist I believe in self rule like most of the community. But as mentioned above, not yet do we have the abilities as humans to self rule. We can collapse the system and live in non progressive anarchy. Or we can learn the current system, get Invovled In making key decisions, and then take every logical step towards total enlightenment of humanity. At this point the next logical step would be to remove "the state."

But it really depends on how you view "the state." The people are supposed to be the state. Representatives in our governments interpret our will and move humanity forward. But this is no longer the case as our current representatives are puppets being controlled with international strings.

If our representatives truly represented the people then the US would progress at a fast rate. I would argue tht the issue isn't "government " or "state" but instead the "incapable people"  we vote into government. I don't see any major issue with traditional US law.

Total enlightenment of humanity cannot happen with a state or monetary system binding us down to patterns of greed.

Once we abandon war, greed and tyranny, there will be an exponential shift in consciousness where people are gathering more positive energy by helping people around them throughout their everyday lives.

[guybrushthreepwood]

The dispensaries shut down were avoiding taxes or not serving the medical community's interests. They deserved to be shut down. Again...Obama helps approve a drug thats been illegal since before WW2 and still receives critism ?

I want to hear alternative proposals.

If im not going to follow the support our President then who do I follow?

As a practical anarchist I believe in self rule like most of the community. But as mentioned above, not yet do we have the abilities as humans to self rule. We can collapse the system and live in non progressive anarchy. Or we can learn the current system, get Invovled In making key decisions, and then take every logical step towards total enlightenment of humanity. At this point the next logical step would be to remove "the state."

But it really depends on how you view "the state." The people are supposed to be the state. Representatives in our governments interpret our will and move humanity forward. But this is no longer the case as our current representatives are puppets being controlled with international strings.

If our representatives truly represented the people then the US would progress at a fast rate. I would argue tht the issue isn't "government " or "state" but instead the "incapable people"  we vote into government. I don't see any major issue with traditional US law.

Total enlightenment of humanity cannot happen with a state or monetary system binding us down to patterns of greed.

Once we abandon war, greed and tyranny, there will be an exponential shift in consciousness where people are gathering more positive energy by helping people around them throughout their everyday lives.

This will never happen.  Well, not unless everybody smoked a lot of weed. Even if we somehow got rid of money, greed and jealousy would still drive most people.

[dank]

With the absence of a monopolized control on violence, karma would play it's role out on a natural level.  With no vessel to utilize greed, people would quickly learn that we can work to support ourselves and our neighbors and society can function even better through voluntarism.

It's destined to happen one day or another.

[guybrushthreepwood]

With the absence of a monopolized control on violence, karma would play it's role out on a natural level.  With no vessel to utilize greed, people would quickly learn that we can work to support ourselves and our neighbors and society can function even better through voluntarism.

It's destined to happen one day or another.

Karma doesn't exist.

[dank]

With the absence of a monopolized control on violence, karma would play it's role out on a natural level.  With no vessel to utilize greed, people would quickly learn that we can work to support ourselves and our neighbors and society can function even better through voluntarism.

It's destined to happen one day or another.

Karma doesn't exist.

So every action does not have a reaction?  If you do someone a good deed, that person's life is forever changed by that action, no matter how small or large.  Furthermore, if you do someone a good deed, do you not feel happy or peace from doing such?  Likewise, if you harm someone on purpose your mind will be occupied by your conscience and you will lose clarity.

Every action you make ripples throughout the world and is felt within you.

[guybrushthreepwood]

With the absence of a monopolized control on violence, karma would play it's role out on a natural level.  With no vessel to utilize greed, people would quickly learn that we can work to support ourselves and our neighbors and society can function even better through voluntarism.

It's destined to happen one day or another.

Karma doesn't exist.

So every action does not have a reaction?  If you do someone a good deed, that person's life is forever changed by that action, no matter how small or large.  Furthermore, if you do someone a good deed, do you not feel happy or peace from doing such?  Likewise, if you harm someone on purpose your mind will be occupied by your conscience and you will lose clarity.

Every action you make ripples throughout the world and is felt within you.

Not really. Some people are sociopaths and tyrants and don't care about the harm or destruction the cause to others. Karma does not exist. Alturism and feeling good / bad exists, but not karma, at least not in any literal sense.

[dank]

Your response doesn't prove Karma exists.

But you are right in that every action has an impact.

The growth of bitcoin can be attributed to all of the little actions all of the members of the commhnity made since 2008. Everyone has had a role so far in building a financial world. It didn't happen overnight.

If you believe in Karma, then sit back and hope your positive actions will bring more positive actions to bitcoin and our world.

If you don't believe in karma, then you must believe that only future positive actions can drive bitcoin growth and move us towards completing our objective of building a new financial world. A new financial world brings peace right?

My first action is taking every step within my reach to help secure peace so that the Internet can exist for bitcoin and decentralized systems.

The proof is everywhere, it's up to you to see it.  If you can acknowledge that actions have reactions than you're acknowledging the role of karma, the interconnectedness of the universe.

Every grain of sand you move will forever impact the formation of the beach.  We are no different.

A new financial world brings peace right?

How does another greed based society stop greed?

To attain world peace we must remove the concept of greed from humanity, which means sharing between our neighbors just as we would with our family.

With the absence of a monopolized control on violence, karma would play it's role out on a natural level.  With no vessel to utilize greed, people would quickly learn that we can work to support ourselves and our neighbors and society can function even better through voluntarism.

It's destined to happen one day or another.

Karma doesn't exist.

So every action does not have a reaction?  If you do someone a good deed, that person's life is forever changed by that action, no matter how small or large.  Furthermore, if you do someone a good deed, do you not feel happy or peace from doing such?  Likewise, if you harm someone on purpose your mind will be occupied by your conscience and you will lose clarity.

Every action you make ripples throughout the world and is felt within you.

Not really. Some people are sociopaths and tyrants and don't care about the harm or destruction the cause to others. Karma does not exist. Alturism and feeling good / bad exists, but not karma, at least not in any literal sense.

Everybody gets their karma, whether it's during your life or as you die.  Your consciousness knows everything, once your ego (sense of human self) is wiped away, truth hits you.

[Vod]

With the absence of a monopolized control on violence, karma would play it's role out on a natural level.  With no vessel to utilize greed, people would quickly learn that we can work to support ourselves and our neighbors and society can function even better through voluntarism.

It's destined to happen one day or another.

Karma doesn't exist.

Karma is a crutch for people who have pathetic lives - same as a god.

They don't exist.

[dank]

With the absence of a monopolized control on violence, karma would play it's role out on a natural level.  With no vessel to utilize greed, people would quickly learn that we can work to support ourselves and our neighbors and society can function even better through voluntarism.

It's destined to happen one day or another.

Karma doesn't exist.

Karma is a crutch for people who have pathetic lives - same as a god.

They don't exist.

So you're telling me, you can walk on a beach, and the sand will not be moved to a new location from thereafter?

You're telling me you can kill someone and that will impact no persons around them, including you?

Fallacy.

Non existence does not exist.

[Vod]

So you're telling me, you can walk on a beach, and the sand will not be moved to a new location from thereafter?

You're telling me you can kill someone and that will impact no persons around them, including you?

Fallacy.

Non existence does not exist.

I wouldn't mind having this discussion with someone who wasn't a psychotic. 

[dank]

If you believe you can murder people with no remorse, I'd say you are the psychotic one.