The NSA is reportedly able to access offline computers thanks to radio wave tech

[Wilikon]

If hackers figure out the spreading codes for everybody's nanotech implants we could be in for a zombie apocalypse.

Lol... that will be interesting. BTW... how many people in this world are actually having nano-tech implants? Enough to create a zombie army?

Some of the web sites that follow the transhumanist movement push numbers as high as 99% of the global population.

So that would include you too. Where is your reset button by the way?

[BADecker]

Do you think that the police with their new see-inside-homes radar can access computers that are offline? Maybe they can even trace the circuitry on a powered down computer enough so that they can mimic a turning hard drive, and read what's on the hard drive... you know, by spinning the radar like a tornado.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930124.0

[AtheistAKASaneBrain]

It's clear now that we need open-source hardware as much as we need open-source software. In the future we'll use something like Maidsafe as internet, with open-source routers independent from ISP, with open-source CPU's motherboards and GPUs, potentially even 3d printed at home.

Then maybe, maybe we can talk about privacy.

[BADecker]

It's clear now that we need open-source hardware as much as we need open-source software. In the future we'll use something like Maidsafe as internet, with open-source routers independent from ISP, with open-source CPU's motherboards and GPUs, potentially even 3d printed at home.

Then maybe, maybe we can talk about privacy.

We will need multiple, simultaneous access to all the data, right at our fingertips. As we hit the keys on the keyboard, we will not only need multiple outputs for each key so that they can't tell which key we are hitting electronically, but we will need some way to blur their vision, as though they were standing right behind us, looking over our shoulder.

This is getting way too complicated.

Time to use the Karl Lentz method - the common law built right into the constitution, and used even by the lawyers - to sue the pants off them for for stealing out privacy, which is our property.

http://www.broadmind.org/

[Wilikon]

Do you think that the police with their new see-inside-homes radar can access computers that are offline? Maybe they can even trace the circuitry on a powered down computer enough so that they can mimic a turning hard drive, and read what's on the hard drive... you know, by spinning the radar like a tornado.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930124.0

Don't let a valet from LA read this or it will end up in the next Mission: Impossible 

[Wilikon]

It's clear now that we need open-source hardware as much as we need open-source software. In the future we'll use something like Maidsafe as internet, with open-source routers independent from ISP, with open-source CPU's motherboards and GPUs, potentially even 3d printed at home.

Then maybe, maybe we can talk about privacy.

Some people are trying hard to do just that.

http://2014.oshwa.org/


List of open-source hardware projects

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_hardware_projects

[BADecker]

Do you think that the police with their new see-inside-homes radar can access computers that are offline? Maybe they can even trace the circuitry on a powered down computer enough so that they can mimic a turning hard drive, and read what's on the hard drive... you know, by spinning the radar like a tornado.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930124.0

Don't let a valet from LA read this or it will end up in the next Mission: Impossible 

Yes, but. Edgar Edward (Doc) Smith wrote science fiction in the first half of the 1900s that described many kinds of fantastic electronics, in reasonable detail. If he could write like that back then, just think of what government researchers, with their almost unlimited funding, might have been able to do for real by now.

[BADecker]

Don't let a valet from LA read this or it will end up in the next Mission: Impossible 

Yes, but. Edgar Edward (Doc) Smith wrote science fiction in the first half of the 1900s that described many kinds of fantastic electronics, in reasonable detail. If he could write like that back then, just think of what government researchers, with their almost unlimited funding, might have been able to do for real by now.

It's kinda slow today. Otherwise I would have expected someone to have corrected me by now.

Doc Smith's name was Edward Elmer Smith, Ph.D.

Doc Smith's sci-fi Lensman series (pre-1950) and Skylark series explain a whole lot of things about the way radio might work. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Lens_%28novel%29 for info about his Children of the Lens novel.

Spacehounds of IPC is a single novel that holds a lot of electromagnetic info in simple layman's terms. Some of the info is outdated. But much of it is right on. Some of it is still in the theory stage.

How much of this kind of "stuff" have the many technologically minded people, companies and governments secretly developed?

[Wilikon]

Don't let a valet from LA read this or it will end up in the next Mission: Impossible 

Yes, but. Edgar Edward (Doc) Smith wrote science fiction in the first half of the 1900s that described many kinds of fantastic electronics, in reasonable detail. If he could write like that back then, just think of what government researchers, with their almost unlimited funding, might have been able to do for real by now.

It's kinda slow today. Otherwise I would have expected someone to have corrected me by now.

Doc Smith's name was Edward Elmer Smith, Ph.D.

Doc Smith's sci-fi Lensman series (pre-1950) and Skylark series explain a whole lot of things about the way radio might work. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Lens_%28novel%29 for info about his Children of the Lens novel.

Spacehounds of IPC is a single novel that holds a lot of electromagnetic info in simple layman's terms. Some of the info is outdated. But much of it is right on. Some of it is still in the theory stage.

How much of this kind of "stuff" have the many technologically minded people, companies and governments secretly developed?

No one would have dared correcting you. Your word is the gospel on bitcointalk... 

[BADecker]

Don't let a valet from LA read this or it will end up in the next Mission: Impossible 

Yes, but. Edgar Edward (Doc) Smith wrote science fiction in the first half of the 1900s that described many kinds of fantastic electronics, in reasonable detail. If he could write like that back then, just think of what government researchers, with their almost unlimited funding, might have been able to do for real by now.

It's kinda slow today. Otherwise I would have expected someone to have corrected me by now.

Doc Smith's name was Edward Elmer Smith, Ph.D.

Doc Smith's sci-fi Lensman series (pre-1950) and Skylark series explain a whole lot of things about the way radio might work. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Lens_%28novel%29 for info about his Children of the Lens novel.

Spacehounds of IPC is a single novel that holds a lot of electromagnetic info in simple layman's terms. Some of the info is outdated. But much of it is right on. Some of it is still in the theory stage.

How much of this kind of "stuff" have the many technologically minded people, companies and governments secretly developed?

No one would have dared correcting you. Your word is the gospel on bitcointalk... 

You are talking about the Gospel of Jesus, right? Just trying to save all those NSA agents.

[Troonetpt]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

[BADecker]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

That's because we don't generally realize how easy it is. Government probably won't defund the NSA. If they do, it will only happen because of some gigantic outcry. It will take a long time.

The thing we need to do is defund government.

We can do it on a personal basis. Look at how Karl Lentz helped a lady run CPS (Child Protective Services) off her property - http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-127469/TS-937314.mp3 (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/rss127469.xml).

Karl has the answer how to stop taxes and the IRS. You'll have to dig for it. Dig here https://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da. Watch Karl here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D.

Youtube and DuckDuckGo search on "Karl Lentz common law."

The more of us who learn and use Karl's stuff, the closer we come to defunding government.

[jaysabi]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

Republicans would never let that happen!

[Wilikon]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

Republicans would never let that happen!

Democrap GOP lawmakers demand FCC make proposed Internet regs public


Leaders in Congress want the public to see new net neutrality regulations before they become law.

Currently, people aren't expected to see the Federal Communications Commission's new regulations for Internet service providers such as Comcast until the agency's five commissioners vote on them on Feb. 26.

That’s concerning for Republicans leaders of the House and Senate Commerce committees, especially since the regulations are expected to exert bold authority over the Web by reclassifying Internet service to treat it like a utility.
“Given the significance of the matter and the strong public participation in the commission’s proceeding to date, we believe the public and industry stakeholders alike should have the opportunity to review the text of any proposed order or rules prior to commission action,” Senate committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.), House committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) — the head of the House Communications Subcommittee — said in a letter to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler on Thursday.

“Limited access to information is beneficial to no one — not to the consumers directly affected by commission action, not to the industries regulated by the rules and not to the commissioners seeking to make information decisions taking public feedback into consideration," they added.

The FCC almost never releases the text of its regulations before the agency’s five commissioners vote on them during open meetings. Wheeler does have the power to release them ahead of time, however, which the lawmakers point out.

They told Wheeler that releasing the text of the new rules would make sense now, given the nearly 4 million public comments on the FCC’s rule-making process — far and away an agency record. 

An FCC spokeswoman, Kim Hart, said that the commission had received the letter and was reviewing it.


http://thehill.com/policy/technology/230507-lawmakers-demand-feds-release-web-rules-before-vote


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[Rishblitz]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

They get exposed for all they do and instead of focusing on them the media focuses on snowden calling him a traitor.

[Rishblitz]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

Republicans would never let that happen!

Democrap GOP lawmakers demand FCC make proposed Internet regs public


Leaders in Congress want the public to see new net neutrality regulations before they become law.

Currently, people aren't expected to see the Federal Communications Commission's new regulations for Internet service providers such as Comcast until the agency's five commissioners vote on them on Feb. 26.

That’s concerning for Republicans leaders of the House and Senate Commerce committees, especially since the regulations are expected to exert bold authority over the Web by reclassifying Internet service to treat it like a utility.
“Given the significance of the matter and the strong public participation in the commission’s proceeding to date, we believe the public and industry stakeholders alike should have the opportunity to review the text of any proposed order or rules prior to commission action,” Senate committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.), House committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) — the head of the House Communications Subcommittee — said in a letter to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler on Thursday.

“Limited access to information is beneficial to no one — not to the consumers directly affected by commission action, not to the industries regulated by the rules and not to the commissioners seeking to make information decisions taking public feedback into consideration," they added.

The FCC almost never releases the text of its regulations before the agency’s five commissioners vote on them during open meetings. Wheeler does have the power to release them ahead of time, however, which the lawmakers point out.

They told Wheeler that releasing the text of the new rules would make sense now, given the nearly 4 million public comments on the FCC’s rule-making process — far and away an agency record. 

An FCC spokeswoman, Kim Hart, said that the commission had received the letter and was reviewing it.


http://thehill.com/policy/technology/230507-lawmakers-demand-feds-release-web-rules-before-vote


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Thank god someone is trying to be more transparent to the public.

[jaysabi]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

Republicans would never let that happen!

Democrap GOP lawmakers demand FCC make proposed Internet regs public


Leaders in Congress want the public to see new net neutrality regulations before they become law.

Currently, people aren't expected to see the Federal Communications Commission's new regulations for Internet service providers such as Comcast until the agency's five commissioners vote on them on Feb. 26.

That’s concerning for Republicans leaders of the House and Senate Commerce committees, especially since the regulations are expected to exert bold authority over the Web by reclassifying Internet service to treat it like a utility.
“Given the significance of the matter and the strong public participation in the commission’s proceeding to date, we believe the public and industry stakeholders alike should have the opportunity to review the text of any proposed order or rules prior to commission action,” Senate committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.), House committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) — the head of the House Communications Subcommittee — said in a letter to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler on Thursday.

“Limited access to information is beneficial to no one — not to the consumers directly affected by commission action, not to the industries regulated by the rules and not to the commissioners seeking to make information decisions taking public feedback into consideration," they added.

The FCC almost never releases the text of its regulations before the agency’s five commissioners vote on them during open meetings. Wheeler does have the power to release them ahead of time, however, which the lawmakers point out.

They told Wheeler that releasing the text of the new rules would make sense now, given the nearly 4 million public comments on the FCC’s rule-making process — far and away an agency record. 

An FCC spokeswoman, Kim Hart, said that the commission had received the letter and was reviewing it.


http://thehill.com/policy/technology/230507-lawmakers-demand-feds-release-web-rules-before-vote


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Thank god someone is trying to be more transparent to the public.

Lol, no side is transparent unless it's an attempt to make the other side look bad. The argument that revolves around "the democrats are better" "no, the republicans are better" rah rah rah bs is why this country is so screwed up. Two parties means neither side has to try terribly hard, because lack of options is each party's biggest attribute. Yay democracy!

[Rishblitz]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

Republicans would never let that happen!

Democrap GOP lawmakers demand FCC make proposed Internet regs public


Leaders in Congress want the public to see new net neutrality regulations before they become law.

Currently, people aren't expected to see the Federal Communications Commission's new regulations for Internet service providers such as Comcast until the agency's five commissioners vote on them on Feb. 26.

That’s concerning for Republicans leaders of the House and Senate Commerce committees, especially since the regulations are expected to exert bold authority over the Web by reclassifying Internet service to treat it like a utility.
“Given the significance of the matter and the strong public participation in the commission’s proceeding to date, we believe the public and industry stakeholders alike should have the opportunity to review the text of any proposed order or rules prior to commission action,” Senate committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.), House committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) — the head of the House Communications Subcommittee — said in a letter to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler on Thursday.

“Limited access to information is beneficial to no one — not to the consumers directly affected by commission action, not to the industries regulated by the rules and not to the commissioners seeking to make information decisions taking public feedback into consideration," they added.

The FCC almost never releases the text of its regulations before the agency’s five commissioners vote on them during open meetings. Wheeler does have the power to release them ahead of time, however, which the lawmakers point out.

They told Wheeler that releasing the text of the new rules would make sense now, given the nearly 4 million public comments on the FCC’s rule-making process — far and away an agency record. 

An FCC spokeswoman, Kim Hart, said that the commission had received the letter and was reviewing it.


http://thehill.com/policy/technology/230507-lawmakers-demand-feds-release-web-rules-before-vote


---------------------------------------------------------
 

Thank god someone is trying to be more transparent to the public.

Lol, no side is transparent unless it's an attempt to make the other side look bad. The argument that revolves around "the democrats are better" "no, the republicans are better" rah rah rah bs is why this country is so screwed up. Two parties means neither side has to try terribly hard, because lack of options is each party's biggest attribute. Yay democracy!

Not all democracies are like that in fact in  the 2012 presidential election a libertarian almost got the threshold number needed to gain media attention

[jaysabi]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

Republicans would never let that happen!

Democrap GOP lawmakers demand FCC make proposed Internet regs public


Leaders in Congress want the public to see new net neutrality regulations before they become law.

Currently, people aren't expected to see the Federal Communications Commission's new regulations for Internet service providers such as Comcast until the agency's five commissioners vote on them on Feb. 26.

That’s concerning for Republicans leaders of the House and Senate Commerce committees, especially since the regulations are expected to exert bold authority over the Web by reclassifying Internet service to treat it like a utility.
“Given the significance of the matter and the strong public participation in the commission’s proceeding to date, we believe the public and industry stakeholders alike should have the opportunity to review the text of any proposed order or rules prior to commission action,” Senate committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.), House committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) — the head of the House Communications Subcommittee — said in a letter to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler on Thursday.

“Limited access to information is beneficial to no one — not to the consumers directly affected by commission action, not to the industries regulated by the rules and not to the commissioners seeking to make information decisions taking public feedback into consideration," they added.

The FCC almost never releases the text of its regulations before the agency’s five commissioners vote on them during open meetings. Wheeler does have the power to release them ahead of time, however, which the lawmakers point out.

They told Wheeler that releasing the text of the new rules would make sense now, given the nearly 4 million public comments on the FCC’s rule-making process — far and away an agency record. 

An FCC spokeswoman, Kim Hart, said that the commission had received the letter and was reviewing it.


http://thehill.com/policy/technology/230507-lawmakers-demand-feds-release-web-rules-before-vote


---------------------------------------------------------
 

Thank god someone is trying to be more transparent to the public.

Lol, no side is transparent unless it's an attempt to make the other side look bad. The argument that revolves around "the democrats are better" "no, the republicans are better" rah rah rah bs is why this country is so screwed up. Two parties means neither side has to try terribly hard, because lack of options is each party's biggest attribute. Yay democracy!

Not all democracies are like that in fact in  the 2012 presidential election a libertarian almost got the threshold number needed to gain media attention

Gary Johnson got less than 1% of the vote. That's no where near what he needs to be treated as a viable alternative, but don't expect democrats and republicans to open up the presidential debates to anyone who can challenge their duopoly on this country. The last time the presidential debates were opened up to a third party, Ross Perot earned something like 18% of the popular vote. Both parties learned their lesson, and no third party has been invited back since. The Commission on Presidential Debates is made up entirely by democrats and republican insiders, so the exclusion is not accidental. The candidates also sign an exclusivity memorandum of understanding with the Commission agreeing that neither candidate will participate any debates not run by the Commission, so they can control the entire debate process and have an excuse never to debate any candidate from another party. The whole thing is a sham, and both parties know it because they've arranged it to be that way. The dems and repubs are more similar than they are different: big government, domestic spying, foreign engagements, deficit spending, etc. All the pageantry on everything else is to keep the public convinced it really matters which party you vote for. "Oh no, gays!" Or "oh no, class warfare!" Pfft.

[Rishblitz]

It seems like we (as a society) haven't taken any steps to defund the NSA... maybe that's just a utopian fantasy anyways.

Republicans would never let that happen!

Democrap GOP lawmakers demand FCC make proposed Internet regs public


Leaders in Congress want the public to see new net neutrality regulations before they become law.

Currently, people aren't expected to see the Federal Communications Commission's new regulations for Internet service providers such as Comcast until the agency's five commissioners vote on them on Feb. 26.

That’s concerning for Republicans leaders of the House and Senate Commerce committees, especially since the regulations are expected to exert bold authority over the Web by reclassifying Internet service to treat it like a utility.
“Given the significance of the matter and the strong public participation in the commission’s proceeding to date, we believe the public and industry stakeholders alike should have the opportunity to review the text of any proposed order or rules prior to commission action,” Senate committee Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.), House committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) — the head of the House Communications Subcommittee — said in a letter to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler on Thursday.

“Limited access to information is beneficial to no one — not to the consumers directly affected by commission action, not to the industries regulated by the rules and not to the commissioners seeking to make information decisions taking public feedback into consideration," they added.

The FCC almost never releases the text of its regulations before the agency’s five commissioners vote on them during open meetings. Wheeler does have the power to release them ahead of time, however, which the lawmakers point out.

They told Wheeler that releasing the text of the new rules would make sense now, given the nearly 4 million public comments on the FCC’s rule-making process — far and away an agency record. 

An FCC spokeswoman, Kim Hart, said that the commission had received the letter and was reviewing it.


http://thehill.com/policy/technology/230507-lawmakers-demand-feds-release-web-rules-before-vote


---------------------------------------------------------
 

Thank god someone is trying to be more transparent to the public.

Lol, no side is transparent unless it's an attempt to make the other side look bad. The argument that revolves around "the democrats are better" "no, the republicans are better" rah rah rah bs is why this country is so screwed up. Two parties means neither side has to try terribly hard, because lack of options is each party's biggest attribute. Yay democracy!

Not all democracies are like that in fact in  the 2012 presidential election a libertarian almost got the threshold number needed to gain media attention

Gary Johnson got less than 1% of the vote. That's no where near what he needs to be treated as a viable alternative, but don't expect democrats and republicans to open up the presidential debates to anyone who can challenge their duopoly on this country. The last time the presidential debates were opened up to a third party, Ross Perot earned something like 18% of the popular vote. Both parties learned their lesson, and no third party has been invited back since. The Commission on Presidential Debates is made up entirely by democrats and republican insiders, so the exclusion is not accidental. The candidates also sign an exclusivity memorandum of understanding with the Commission agreeing that neither candidate will participate any debates not run by the Commission, so they can control the entire debate process and have an excuse never to debate any candidate from another party. The whole thing is a sham, and both parties know it because they've arranged it to be that way. The dems and repubs are more similar than they are different: big government, domestic spying, foreign engagements, deficit spending, etc. All the pageantry on everything else is to keep the public convinced it really matters which party you vote for. "Oh no, gays!" Or "oh no, class warfare!" Pfft.

Though out the years both parties have become more and more similar. especially after 9/11