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January 16, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
Last edit: January 16, 2014, 10:42:10 PM by igorr
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From August - 2013 years Bitcoin difficulty is increased by 48x or 8.7x per month
http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator
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From August 2013 Litecoin difficulty is increased by 4.5x , or 0.818x per month
http://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

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So for the past 5.5 months we had 10x higher growth difficulties and hashrate the BTC in relation to the LTC ,
And still the price of BTC 20x higher than the price of LTC ,
and in addition to the LTC earning quite difficult , it justified the enormous cost of hardware and the huge consumption of electricity



Earnings LTC miners is very poor and laborious and very expensive ,

Provided that LTC remain 24 usd a lasting several months the average increment difficulties remain constant ,
about 0.8 % for three days ,
with one the Radeon HD 7950 card, it is possible to earn 135 usd for a year . ( under ideal conditions )
( on ​​ebay the cheapest cost $ 367.00 + shipping , not as the site says 225 usd )

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Pre emergence of ASIC hardware for Bitcoin mining , in the first half of 2013g ,
BTC and LTC miners had the same earnings in relation to the money invested in hardware on .

What is it suddenly changed the appearance of the ASIC hardware ?
What is it suddenly upset the balance , the money invested in hardware / earned money from cryptocoin ?
Why is the price of Bitcoin so then jumped when a relatively cheaper ASICs with hardware
could dig more, easier, faster and cheaper BTC?
(lower production price of hardware and extremely low energy consumption)

The answer is more than obvious ,
Producers ASIC hardware are artificially raised the price of Bitcoin , a
In that moment, prices should be declining, because the cheaper and easier to manufacture Bitcoin.

What will be with the same The price Bitcoin happen when manufacturers ASIC hardware are coming out of the game ?

And the answer is more than obvious !

Definitely BTC and LTC prices should replacement places

Relation between;
BTC mining hardware production cost / earnings = low
LTC mining hardware production cost / earnings = high


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January 16, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
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thats $135 in 1 month with a 7950 at those rates/hashes

NOT $135 for 1 year.
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January 16, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
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its for 1 year, with Radeon HD 7950

Check calculator:  http://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

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January 16, 2014, 10:26:33 PM
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ops my bad you're right!

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January 16, 2014, 10:29:27 PM
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well going on here:

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/?sha256HashRate=600.00&sha256Power=500.00&sha256PowerCost=0.1000&scryptHashRate=600.00&scryptPower=500.00&scryptPowerCost=0.1000&sha256Check=true&scryptCheck=true

with 600 hashes

litecoin generates $4.13 per day before electricity

4.13 x 30 days = $123.9
123.9 * 12 months = $1,486 per year
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January 16, 2014, 10:37:18 PM
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This is a good LTC calculator  
http://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

set;
Difficulty Increment: 0.8
Hardware Price: about 400 usd (Radeon HD 7950 )
Electricity Price: 0.14  (USD/kWh)
Display Currency: USD
Group By: Month

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January 16, 2014, 10:46:32 PM
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Part of the reason the LTC difficulty is increasing at a lower rate is because of a graphics card shortage right now.

I have 3 R9 280x cards still back ordered from November.

The cards that are trickling in are only allowing the network to increase incrementally...

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January 16, 2014, 10:50:08 PM
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Exactly, and therefore the price of LTC should  be higher than the BTC price.
LTC mining is much more difficult than the BTC mining.

Relation between;
BTC mining hardware production cost / earnings = low
LTC mining hardware production cost / earnings = high

and Definitely BTC and LTC prices should replacement places.


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January 16, 2014, 10:53:30 PM
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Part of the reason the LTC difficulty is increasing at a lower rate is because of a graphics card shortage right now.

I have 3 R9 280x cards still back ordered from November.

The cards that are trickling in are only allowing the network to increase incrementally...

Amen to that brotha!
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January 16, 2014, 11:06:59 PM
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OP operates under the assumption that price derived strictly from difficulty. It is not.

There are many factors that influence the price:
- popularity / adaptation rates
- government regulations
- market conditions
- security conditions
- political climate

IMO, difficulty is not even in the top 3.
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January 16, 2014, 11:58:33 PM
Last edit: January 17, 2014, 03:18:19 PM by LiteCoinGuy
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yeah, Litecoin-Mining is pretty good for a "normal" man with not much cash.

Litecoin is the silver of the cryptoworld.

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January 17, 2014, 12:00:31 AM
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the problem with Litecoin is that it won't prevent the monopolization of mining, just raise the barrier to capitalization.

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January 17, 2014, 12:02:43 AM
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good info thanks.

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January 17, 2014, 12:13:51 AM
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Since i startes to mine litecoin in the begining of December its difficulty raised almost 300%. In just two months.
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January 17, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
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Since i startes to mine litecoin in the begining of December its difficulty raised almost 300%. In just two months.

ya and the price has also gone up.

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January 17, 2014, 01:41:15 AM
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I got into Litecoin in November when it was $9 I wish I would have just bought at that price. Instead I invested in mining equipment... 3 of the 6 graphics cards I ordered are still back ordered.

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January 17, 2014, 02:49:15 PM
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Now,
We have for Bitcoin, mining factor 22 cents per 1Gh/s at 24h   and
Litecoin mining factor 0.004 cents per 1Kh/s at 24h  !

Because we have anomaly,
LTC mining hardware production cost "Radeon HD 7950"
is much higher than Butterfly Labs 28nm PCI card  Huh

http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/

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January 17, 2014, 03:00:52 PM
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I got into mining litecoin early early of 2013.

I was making up to 4 ltc's per day with my 5 computers (running a combo of 7950s, 7970s, 6950s, and 1 5850)

now im making just under 1 ltc per day  on average or about $25 per day just leaving them on.

I got very lucky and timed it right, I converted all of my LTC into BTC's while it was 3.5-4% (or around $40-$50 per ltc)

Now it's stuck under 3% last i checked.
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January 17, 2014, 03:16:03 PM
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Mining dificulty and crypto price are not tied as much as you would like to think. There are MANY other reasons why BTC is more valuable (for now) than LTC.

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January 17, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
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Mining dificulty and crypto price are not tied as much as you would like to think. There are MANY other reasons why BTC is more valuable (for now) than LTC.

The main reason is artificially raising prices and popularity of manufacturer BTC mining hardware !

The ratio betwen BTC and LTC mining, of Invested money / Earned Money is about 5500x
0.22 cents per 1Gh at 24h / 0.004 cents per 1Kh at 24H.

The ratio betwen bitcoin and litecoin, Invested money / Earned Money should be 1:1,  not 1:5500

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