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September 06, 2011, 11:00:36 PM
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I think we can all agree that coinhunter is acting like a dick. We most probably can agree the the changes he made was without knowledge of what the code actually does. Basically he delivered some crap product. Then when someone tells him about some bug/issue he simple ignores it or even blame the one that discovered it being a terrorist. So he is probably the worse guy leading any software development.

Yet, all that said, it seems he does have a lot of followers. We knew some of them before the whole solidcoin saga. So we can say that at least some of them are (or better have been) rational and intelligent people, and we can guess that those are not (all) sock puppets of coinhunter. So what does make rational and intelligent people into some fundamentally extremist. Well, we have seen this behavior in religion and to some lesser extent in politics. It always needs some charismatic, or at least very weird, leader. Look at Scientology/Ron L. Hubbard or Nazism/Hitler or Davidians/Koresh as examples.

Now look at apparently intelligent people, like viperjbm, BitcoinPorn, FlipPro, to just name a few. They did become true followers of coinhunter and are now apparently completely submerged in coinhunters world. So it seems coinhunter can cast a spell over people. And as we all know he doesn't do this with his work. I can only conclude that apparently he has some talent to be a leader - he is a natural born leader.

To cut a long story short, I think he wastes his talent by pretending to be a developer. I mean, he delivered only junk and despite this still got all those people as his followers. So I think he should drop his staged development, and concentrate on his role as a leader. If he really wants he could be the next Jobs/Hitler/Lenin/Hubbard/whatever-he-likes.
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September 06, 2011, 11:10:00 PM
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Now look at apparently intelligent people, like viperjbm, BitcoinPorn, FlipPro, to just name a few. They did become true followers of coinhunter and are now apparently completely submerged in coinhunters world.

I'm pretty sure viperjbm and FlipPro are not supporters of Solidcoin. I've seen them advocating a fork with demurrage plenty of times. So I guess CoinHunter was just born to lead BitcoinPorn.
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September 06, 2011, 11:18:13 PM
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They did become true followers of coinhunter and are now apparently completely submerged in coinhunters world. So it seems coinhunter can cast a spell over people.


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September 06, 2011, 11:21:49 PM
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Looks like it was true. BitcoinPorn is so high on Coinhunter he can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy anymore.
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September 06, 2011, 11:41:23 PM
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LOL Even if I loose every dime I've invested in Bitcoin and Solidcoin, it was well worth it. The entertainment provided by some of the people here has been pricelessCheesy Cheesy

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September 06, 2011, 11:46:06 PM
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Edit: He is too arrogant to lead a project.  He refuses to take help from others.  He won't acknowledge his mistakes. He'll release live code without testing it inorder to fix live code he released without testing.

There goes his leadership and project responsibility. In the same action goes any sense of responsibility to the people who use SolidCoin.

If anything, CoinHunter is making great use of his talent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

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September 06, 2011, 11:47:53 PM
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If anything, CoinHunter is making great use of his talent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
So the faster algorithm is all just a "confidence trick" right?

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September 06, 2011, 11:55:24 PM
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If anything, CoinHunter is making great use of his talent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
So the faster algorithm is all just a "confidence trick" right?

Confidence in an untested algorithm?  Yeah, that's a trick.

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September 06, 2011, 11:57:11 PM
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If anything, CoinHunter is making great use of his talent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
So the faster algorithm is all just a "confidence trick" right?

Confidence in an untested algorithm?  Yeah, that's a trick.
How do you know it's an untested algorithm without testing it?

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September 07, 2011, 12:00:02 AM
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If anything, CoinHunter is making great use of his talent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
So the faster algorithm is all just a "confidence trick" right?

Confidence in an untested algorithm?  Yeah, that's a trick.
How do you know it's an untested algorithm without testing it?

Algorithm -> Test -> Confidence.

That's how it should go. In SC's case, it's been

Confidence -> Algorithm -> Test

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September 07, 2011, 12:10:36 AM
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If anything, CoinHunter is making great use of his talent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
So the faster algorithm is all just a "confidence trick" right?

Yeah, it's faster, but it's not more secure. A bitcoin confirmation is 3.33 times more secure than a solidcoin confirmation.

Bitcoin can have fast transactions too. Just accept a transaction after you see it sent to the network: http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/
Sure, a double spend attack is possible. But unless the transaction amount is large, you really don't need to be worried about a double spend attack. So there you go, instant transactions but not secure.

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September 07, 2011, 12:24:38 AM
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I'm not sure why you guys defend him, he really is a perfect asshole to even to people who support SC.  I loved this line today:

"...So stick around, perhaps lose the condescending "I know better" tone and you may do well with this"  -RealSolid in response to Bitcoinporn's advice to lay low for a bit
 
lol.. Who talks like that?  Like Bitcoinporn is the condescending one.  He did the same thing to me yesterday when I said he should reconsider the open lisence.  At first I thought trolls were just picking on him, but he treats people with no respect.  Why defend him?
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September 07, 2011, 12:26:10 AM
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Nope. Probability of a attacker with a given % of network hashrate (below 50%) to successfully find N blocks in a row before the rest of the network does is independent of average time/block. See the original paper.
Now, here's the fun part: What about the probability of our attacker succeeding at least once in fixed timespan? Wink

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September 07, 2011, 12:37:39 AM
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lol.. Who talks like that?
I almost slapped my forehead when I read it in confusion and amusement, fucking icing on the cake for me.  SolidCoin is definitely the most amusing digital currency ever to exist.    It almost makes you wish this was all an elaborate scam instead of this sad reality lol

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September 07, 2011, 01:11:56 AM
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If anything, CoinHunter is making great use of his talent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
So the faster algorithm is all just a "confidence trick" right?

Confidence in an untested algorithm?  Yeah, that's a trick.
So far we have survived a DOS attack, a huge miner drop off, and a huge price drop off. The algorithm however follows these unintended events, and protects the overall network from crashing to a halt. Who knows, maybe this was all a plot foiled by Realsolid, so that people would attack the network, and it could get some "serious" testing, before being released as a finished product. This is all still "beta" you know Cheesy.

Think about it... There's no better testing than having an entire community attack a product that should be "invulnerable" to attacks...

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September 07, 2011, 01:15:44 AM
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...There's no better testing than having an entire community people who were involved in SolidCoin attack a product the lead (and only) guy being a complete douche...

Fixed that.

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September 07, 2011, 01:20:14 AM
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...There's no better testing than having an entire community people who were involved in SolidCoin attack a product the lead (and only) guy being a complete douche...

Fixed that.
I was referring to the technical attacks that have taken place. Flame wars on the Internet are irrelevant to me. I want a network that works, that can survive a drop off, and that has a future of only becoming better. Solidcoin is now bigger than any single individual, and with that being said there is no reason why we should begin to loose respect of each other. This is exactly what the (real) trolls wanted, all the infighting that has been going on for the past couple of weeks has had a serious effect on the psychology and price of this place.

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September 07, 2011, 01:25:35 AM
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Speaking of having a serious effect on the psychology and price of this place.

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You and your damn changed name, I forgot about your forum to the list.  Just an unofficial list, but BTC communities if anyone wants to keep track of this sort of thing.  Such as anoncoin that I believe is for many currencies.

http://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/
http://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/
http://www.anoncoin.org/
http://www.bitcoinforums.net/
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September 07, 2011, 04:08:47 AM
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If CoinHunter is a natural born leader I dread to see what someone too emotionally fragile and immature to lead would look like.

That being stated, speaking from a position of relative ignorance, I have yet to see a technically compelling explanation of the claims that the changes he made to the Bitcoin heuristics are intrinsically detrimental to network security (which is not to say that those claims are incorrect, just that I don't understand them, and I'm not about to presume that they are true just 'cause some people said so in the middle of a flame war).


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September 07, 2011, 04:27:03 AM
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+1 on everything JBM said.

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