MakeBTC.org Pyramid Scheme

[boumalo]

I simply pointed out that "he could have run with more" argument is unsound, since you don't know how much of the pot is sucker money.

when we are 10 out of 20 on bank 20 it means he can run away with 10BTC maybe some of this 10BTC is ''his" money from previous profit reinvested but the fact is that if he run away when it is 11out of 20 he makes more money

If he is invested in the scheme early (extremely probable), he profits from keeping the scheme going as long as possible + he takes a healthy 5% fee so it doesn't make much sense to run away when there is still 0.1-0.3 deposits everyday

makeBTC.org is back online but we can't log in yet, already 2 registrations

[Dragonspire91783]

got this e-mail about the site not working and invalid log ins



Hello dear makebtc.org user.
 
We very sorry for our site get a wrong way.
 
We will start refund your btc now.
 
Reply this email with:
 
Your email at makebtc.org:
Your password at makebtc.org:
 
we will refund your full btc and will give more a bonus of 0.01 btc to you.
 
thanks
 
admin
makebtc.org

[boumalo]

got this e-mail about the site not working and invalid log ins



Hello dear makebtc.org user.
 
We very sorry for our site get a wrong way.
 
We will start refund your btc now.
 
Reply this email with:
 
Your email at makebtc.org:
Your password at makebtc.org:
 
we will refund your full btc and will give more a bonus of 0.01 btc to you.
 
thanks
 
admin
makebtc.org

I got the same email, I don't see why they should need on password, that doesn't make much sense, makeBTC post here please!! Or on the other thread
I hope the website didn't get hacked, it sure looks like it did but it is weird that makeBTC doesn't say anything anywhere!!!

I have some hope of getting my BTC back though

[agaruna]

got this e-mail about the site not working and invalid log ins



Hello dear makebtc.org user.
 
We very sorry for our site get a wrong way.
 
We will start refund your btc now.
 
Reply this email with:
 
Your email at makebtc.org:
Your password at makebtc.org:
 
we will refund your full btc and will give more a bonus of 0.01 btc to you.
 
thanks
 
admin
makebtc.org

I got the same email, I don't see why they should need on password, that doesn't make much sense, makeBTC post here please!! Or on the other thread
I hope the website didn't get hacked, it sure looks like it did but it is weird that makeBTC doesn't say anything anywhere!!!

I have some hope of getting my BTC back though

Sounds super scammy, my bet is someone saw the site go down and thought they could make a quick buck when it started working by phishing people's site logins.

[boumalo]

got this e-mail about the site not working and invalid log ins



Hello dear makebtc.org user.
 
We very sorry for our site get a wrong way.
 
We will start refund your btc now.
 
Reply this email with:
 
Your email at makebtc.org:
Your password at makebtc.org:
 
we will refund your full btc and will give more a bonus of 0.01 btc to you.
 
thanks
 
admin
makebtc.org

I got the same email, I don't see why they should need on password, that doesn't make much sense, makeBTC post here please!! Or on the other thread
I hope the website didn't get hacked, it sure looks like it did but it is weird that makeBTC doesn't say anything anywhere!!!

I have some hope of getting my BTC back though

Sounds super scammy, my bet is someone saw the site go down and thought they could make a quick buck when it started working by phishing people's site logins.

We can only speculate; the alleged sc.ammer has admin@makebtc.org email but getting the passwords only allow him to try to log in on other websites with the same passwords

I don't think he was able to register makeBTC.org again and have all the design and infos as well; he cannot get any money from makeBTC by having a password if makeBTC isn't running

[agaruna]

I got the same email, I don't see why they should need on password, that doesn't make much sense, makeBTC post here please!! Or on the other thread
I hope the website didn't get hacked, it sure looks like it did but it is weird that makeBTC doesn't say anything anywhere!!!

I have some hope of getting my BTC back though

Sounds super scammy, my bet is someone saw the site go down and thought they could make a quick buck when it started working by phishing people's site logins.

We can only speculate; the alleged sc.ammer has admin@makebtc.org email but getting the passwords only allow him to try to log in on other websites with the same passwords

I don't think he was able to register makeBTC.org again and have all the design and infos as well; he cannot get any money from makeBTC by having a password if makeBTC isn't running

I'll bet we all got two emails, one from "Makebtc" wanting our login info and one from InvestBTC claiming their site is "the best site to invest bitcoin and litecoin." Well, Site #1 (MakeBTC) definitely did not send that first message. The original data has Site #2 written all over it.

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To: @gmail.com
Subject: Refund and we will give bonus of 0.01 btc to you.
>>>X-PHP-Script: engineer-inv.com/decode/mm.php for 103.4.234.169<<<
From: Makebtc <admin@makebtc.org>
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Hello dear makebtc.org user.

We very sorry for our site get a wrong way.

We will start refund your btc now.

Reply this email with:

Your email at makebtc.org:
Your password at makebtc.org:

we will refund your full btc and will give more a bonus of 0.01 btc to you.

thanks

admin
makebtc.org

Doesn't seem to me like it's actually the site-runner. Not only does Site #2 look like it was whipped up on a moment's notice, but the email is sent with tracks leading somewhere other then the authentic path. I think this is just a scam.

EDIT: Subnote, at least MakeBTC looked credibly professional in it's design. I could have done that 2nd site's design myself, and I'm undeniably horrible at site layouts. The quality margin is far too substantial for engineerinv to be authentic.

[boumalo]

I got the second email as well from InvestBTC

The emails are not from makeBTC and they probably don't have access to the administration part of the website

Let's see if we will be able to log in on makeBTC and if makeBTC will say something; let's hope he didn't sell the website and email user base to someone; if he did he would have sold the passwords as well...

[Kush63]

I replied to the mail (no answer yet):

Dear Admin of MakeBTC.org (that is: if you are the real admin of that site...),

Personally, 'till a few days ago  I didn't think your scheme and website "got a wrong way", as you put it.

But why do you need my email- and password? You send me this email, which proves you already have my email. Besides, I registered a btc-address in the MakeBTC-database to send me my income. You can use that address to refund and pay me the bonus you just promised. Regarding to the sudden disappearing of MakeBTC, I think it's more justified that I ask you to prove to me that you're really the admin of MakeBTC.org before I give you any password or other info.

But surely, I would like to get my deposits to MakeBTC.org refunded. Therefore I would highly appreciate it if you send me my full refund incl. the promised bonus within a couple of days from now. You can send it to my btc-address registered in the makebtc-database, ore simply return it to the btc-address of which I send my deposits.

With regards,

Kush

[boumalo]

makeBTC answered here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=449835.40

He is apparently not controlling makebtc.org or admin@makebtc.org and is fighting to get the domain back or he will create a new one so it is kind of a good news (if true)

[NotLambchop]

This sort of denial borders on lunacy.  "Someone else" is controlling the site, but doesn't use the mail server for phishing?
You have been played.  You will be played again.  Or you're the outside guy.
Either way, please stop embarrassing yourself and let this thread die.

[agaruna]

From what I can tell, one of these newer emails done through the same mailserver as the others seems to be advertising the MakeBTC webhost, as alleged by MakeBTC theirself. If this is any solid proof, which it isn't necessarily, then it may indeed be their host who is causing all this trouble, and I'm swayed to agree until proof to the contrary appears.

Also, after refreshing my inbox it seems an email from "BTC square" with a 'reflink' to the previously mentioned Site #2 (engineerinv) with the exact same sender.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
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[sstark]

the site stole me coins well before any of this stuff ever happened.

I cashed out about a month and a half ago and never got the btc, and the makebtc account was 0.

[boumalo]

RIP makeBTC; a few players made some money and a lot of players lost money; the owner is probably still on the forum!! Very annoying

[hilariousandco]

RIP makeBTC; a few players made some money and a lot of players lost money; the owner is probably still on the forum!! Very annoying

So some people actually made profit?

[boumalo]

RIP makeBTC; a few players made some money and a lot of players lost money; the owner is probably still on the forum!! Very annoying

So some people actually made profit?

The very early depositors that cashed out
They made 1-3BTC max each when they could have make way more by going all out

I lost a few cBTC it isn't that bad

[guybrushthreepwood]

People will never learn with these pyramids. They always end up the same.

[surfer43]

RIP makeBTC; a few players made some money and a lot of players lost money; the owner is probably still on the forum!! Very annoying

So some people actually made profit?

The very early depositors that cashed out
They made 1-3BTC max each when they could have make way more by going all out

I lost a few cBTC it isn't that bad

What is a cBTC?

[boumalo]

RIP makeBTC; a few players made some money and a lot of players lost money; the owner is probably still on the forum!! Very annoying

So some people actually made profit?

The very early depositors that cashed out
They made 1-3BTC max each when they could have make way more by going all out

I lost a few cBTC it isn't that bad

What is a cBTC?

centibitcoins