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It's kind of funny...everyone's talking about/predicting a crash
You have a weird definition of "everyone" ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Don't be mistaken - people who are talking about crash here have no coins for a long time already. They want it to happen, because currently the price is way above what they cashed out at, but unfortunately we've run out of silly people who would sell now.
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January 18, 2014, 09:16:57 PM |
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By banning Bitcoin governments can destroy every chance of mainstream adoption while leaving Bitcoin a much smaller part of the economy in which it can operate. If it makes any inroads into the $15 Trillion offshore banking sector then it will be doing just fine.
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January 18, 2014, 09:21:02 PM |
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By banning Bitcoin governments can destroy every chance of mainstream adoption while leaving Bitcoin a much smaller part of the economy in which it can operate. If it makes any inroads into the $15 Trillion offshore banking sector then it will be doing just fine. but it will be illegal to move money into a jurisdiction where you are not paying taxes from it, so nobody would do it. oh wait...
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January 19, 2014, 04:05:15 AM |
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Actually there were such chances in 2011 (from 30+ to 3), and a second chance after 2013 spring's crash (From 266 to 70), but it is unlikely that the market is going to give you a third chance, the market never repeat the same pattern more than twice, we are going to see a different development this time
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January 19, 2014, 07:31:01 AM |
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The worst case scenario for BTC is always $0 - catastrophic failure, and anyone who believes otherwise is somewhat detached from reality within their euphoria.
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January 19, 2014, 08:47:16 AM |
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The worst case scenario for BTC is always $0
no, worst case is a huge meteor destroying earth in seconds. nothing could be worse for us humans. now that this is off the table, let's talk reality.
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January 19, 2014, 08:37:17 PM |
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The worst case scenario for BTC is always $0 - catastrophic failure, and anyone who believes otherwise is somewhat detached from reality within their euphoria.
Any currency's value can drop to 0 if the issuer who back the currency is gone. Same, if the network back the bitcoin is gone, then it will worth 0, but the probability for that to happen might be much less than a government being taken down. A civil war wipe out one government, or hyperinflation render a currency useless, those events won't affect bitcoin
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January 19, 2014, 09:17:45 PM |
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worst case IMO.... but unlikely -- in the 260-300 range. wont matter too much which exchange you look at, they would mostly recouple by then, i think.
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January 19, 2014, 09:53:59 PM |
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Depends on the scenario. If the USA, EU and China ban bitcoin <30$.
We all know that prohibition always makes the thing being prohibited less valuable. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The freedom to transfer value without permission or middlemen is more important to me than ingesting substances which governments around the world have outlawed. We all know how well that worked out. Bitcoin was designed to be ban proof from the start.Can't agree with that. As you know Bitcoin was designed to have progressively lower block rewards, while mining revenue was supposed to increasingly come from transaction fees. This means that as time goes by a larger price and volume become necessary to keep mining profitable. By banning Bitcoin governments can destroy every chance of mainstream adoption while leaving Bitcoin a much smaller part of the economy in which it can operate. The price would crash leaving many ASICS unprofitable making the network much weaker. It's role as a transfer of value would be severely damaged because of the difficulty to exchange it for fiat as no formal exchange can exist anymore. Hahaha. Bitcoin cannot be really banned. Look at Argentina where they banned the use of USD, and now the most of their population are sitting on dollars ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Also, did Gold lose its value since in was banned by the US president in 1933 ?
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January 19, 2014, 10:34:50 PM |
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it seems there is some conflation on this issue, often times, anyway short term/mid term effect on price is not the same as effect on utility and these are not the same and LOL and comparing the utility of the USD with BTC ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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January 19, 2014, 10:40:31 PM |
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Depends on the scenario. If the USA, EU and China ban bitcoin <30$.
We all know that prohibition always makes the thing being prohibited less valuable. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The freedom to transfer value without permission or middlemen is more important to me than ingesting substances which governments around the world have outlawed. We all know how well that worked out. Bitcoin was designed to be ban proof from the start.Can't agree with that. As you know Bitcoin was designed to have progressively lower block rewards, while mining revenue was supposed to increasingly come from transaction fees. This means that as time goes by a larger price and volume become necessary to keep mining profitable. By banning Bitcoin governments can destroy every chance of mainstream adoption while leaving Bitcoin a much smaller part of the economy in which it can operate. The price would crash leaving many ASICS unprofitable making the network much weaker. It's role as a transfer of value would be severely damaged because of the difficulty to exchange it for fiat as no formal exchange can exist anymore. Hahaha. Bitcoin cannot be really banned. Look at Argentina where they banned the use of USD, and now the most of their population are sitting on dollars ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Also, did Gold lose its value since in was banned by the US president in 1933 ? Bitcoin can be made illegal which would destroy it's chance of mainstream adoption which would make it dead in the long run.
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January 20, 2014, 09:10:10 AM |
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Worst case scenario in the short term is that the feds sell all 170k+ on the exchanges. This would send the price down below $100/BTC briefly. With some warning the price would fall to $200-$300 beforehand, then shoot up afterwards. If they announce an auction, several big players will cash out to buy back in cheaper sending the price down beforehand, with a slow climb wondering what the buyer will do with the coins.
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January 20, 2014, 04:26:24 PM |
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Seems unlikely to crash. Test the resistance yes, but no crashing will occur...
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January 20, 2014, 05:21:19 PM |
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No crash boys, you had your chance few weeks ago.
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March 28, 2014, 03:41:46 AM |
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450 stamp is where the bottom of a logarithmic channel meets the falling resistance from Jan 5th. I can't construct anything meaningful lower than that.
How did you know this? totally called the bottom, spot on. Where do you see bitcoin going from here?
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March 28, 2014, 03:43:10 AM |
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worst case is $0...
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March 28, 2014, 04:47:38 AM |
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Mt Gox in complete shut down was still trading coins for $100 a coin. Pretty remarkable if you ask me.
I think the worst case bottom is probably double what you saw on Gox in its death throws.
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March 28, 2014, 05:31:45 AM |
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450 stamp is where the bottom of a logarithmic channel meets the falling resistance from Jan 5th. I can't construct anything meaningful lower than that.
How did you know this? totally called the bottom, spot on. Where do you see bitcoin going from here? Actually the bottom was $400, though it was very brief (got most of mine at $450).
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