[ANN] NEM : 4 billions coins - (part 1, this thread is no longer used)

[Wongi]

Sent 80 NXT

TRANSACTION ID: 16696563633137106161
Timestamp: 27.01.2014 01:10:32

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[shoichikun808]

valedor and mcorc is the same NXT adress.

there are SO many duplicate accounts here that the unfairness will be insane, you should've required facebook authentication or something because this is no better than other coins in terms of fairness, except these guys are even worse as they are just downright deceptive.

I must say that admiral.fu's family story about 8 people wanting in on NEM also seem *very* fishy to say the least. They have not even got involved in NXT, but he is going to hand them NEM accounts? Ok I obviously want to give NEM accounts to my whole family too, so if I send 800 NXT I get 10 nem accounts filled with equal amount of wealth ?

Just goes to show that short of having a lengthy, centralized and invasive identity verification process, there's really no way to do these distributions in a "fair" way as of now. Using coin taint may be useful, but you still don't know for sure who owns what accounts and is that really a road we want to go down? There really wasn't anything wrong with the initial Nxt distribution. I'm glad all these clone threads popped up. They've just gone to show that the claim of Nxt initial distribution was a fix and could easily be done "properly" is a bogus argument.

As utopian said multiple times. He doesn't mind people making multiple accounts. But the thing is that they have to PM from each of those accounts with whatever the secret phrase is for each individual account to get their share of NEM. So if someone created 100+ accounts then the guy needs to know the login for each account, create a new email for each of those accounts, along with having to send a PM from each of those accounts.

All those people trying to buy-in by making up some story about family getting involved won't work unless they create an account for each of those "family members".

[CoinsonCoinsonCoins]

Sent .008btc

txid:
01a742a5a4744d37a93e6916993e7b95eeaaed2b7f515a9415b2b41842befebf

https://blockchain.info/tx/01a742a5a4744d37a93e6916993e7b95eeaaed2b7f515a9415b2b41842befebf

[PeaceLoveTea]

valedor and mcorc is the same NXT adress.

there are SO many duplicate accounts here that the unfairness will be insane, you should've required facebook authentication or something because this is no better than other coins in terms of fairness, except these guys are even worse as they are just downright deceptive.

I must say that admiral.fu's family story about 8 people wanting in on NEM also seem *very* fishy to say the least. They have not even got involved in NXT, but he is going to hand them NEM accounts? Ok I obviously want to give NEM accounts to my whole family too, so if I send 800 NXT I get 10 nem accounts filled with equal amount of wealth ?

Just goes to show that short of having a lengthy, centralized and invasive identity verification process, there's really no way to do these distributions in a "fair" way as of now. Using coin taint may be useful, but you still don't know for sure who owns what accounts and is that really a road we want to go down? There really wasn't anything wrong with the initial Nxt distribution. I'm glad all these clone threads popped up. They've just gone to show that the claim of Nxt initial distribution was a fix and could easily be done "properly" is a bogus argument.

As utopian said multiple times. He doesn't mind people making multiple accounts. But the thing is that they have to PM from each of those accounts with whatever the secret phrase is for each individual account to get their share of NEM. So if someone created 100+ accounts then the guy needs to know the login for each account along with having to send a PM from each of those accounts.

All those people trying to buy-in by making up some story about family getting involved won't work unless they create an account for each of those "family members".

In order to gain 1% of NEM right now you would have to:
- create 40 accounts (assuming they stop the list at 4000 accounts)
- donate between .4 and .8 btc
This requires days of time sitting at a computer and a lot of money.

Compared to gaining 1.81% of NXT during ipo:
- send .4btc from one account

Seems like NEM is a hell of a lot fairer.

[Uniqueorn]

Days of time?

Creating an account takes mere seconds.
Creating a fake email accounts take seconds.
I could make 40 accounts in 1 hour, no problem.

Where does the days come in?

[shoichikun808]

Days of time?

Creating an account takes mere seconds.
Creating a fake email accounts take seconds.
I could make 40 accounts in 1 hour, no problem.

Where does the days come in?

then go do it  . 40 accounts x .008 BTC = .32 BTC if you don't mind spending that much  and you trust NEM will be worth the investment It was much easier for the early people to do it since it was free, but there will be less and less as the fee rises imo.

Just remember to PM utopian later when the PM's for the stakeholders are sent out.

Guarantee there were people doing the same with NXT early on to bypass the 1 BTC restriction. It's hard in a decentralized anonymous way to make anything completely fair.

[JiveTurkey]

Sent .008btc

txid:
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https://blockchain.info/tx/737a4d7056f00416cbb6a59ac006cca2d3d75994bcab673344e2fb9e3d56fb96

[LadyK]

Hello

I am interested

I sent 0.01BTC

TrxID: c90050a0d39d8cb18448bfa857c82d89325530a02043329c121bdbf288daf260

Thanks

Kerry

[PeaceLoveTea]

Sent .008btc

txid:
9e32fdd039882cf4af9fb43a993950e79f29ba3b0ea7f44e91f97d14ccccb225

https://blockchain.info/tx/9e32fdd039882cf4af9fb43a993950e79f29ba3b0ea7f44e91f97d14ccccb225

[Zukii]

Sent 0.008 BTC:
txid:
baf1d760777d7e12562ed2a1274444589831236202731b0e9353020285ce49a6

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/baf1d760777d7e12562ed2a1274444589831236202731b0e9353020285ce49a6

[BasicallyNot]

Sent .01btc

txid:
23527cda6f9b3d332e03fcc65fc18981e5b03a07ed6adb71fea0194f9e2889ae

https://blockchain.info/tx/23527cda6f9b3d332e03fcc65fc18981e5b03a07ed6adb71fea0194f9e2889ae

[Reseral Federve]

sent 0.008 btc

txid:

174c7de0eea4025f9846a0b350a7c2f3b07b4b14f0bedf0935b932935fa8c0d1

https://blockchain.info/tx/174c7de0eea4025f9846a0b350a7c2f3b07b4b14f0bedf0935b932935fa8c0d1

[MartiniBlanco]

sent 0.0095 btc

txid:
d5de4df9e99c1b23105bcbf1133e861ba49332eef1df13c65f409c79d8309bec

https://blockchain.info/de/tx/d5de4df9e99c1b23105bcbf1133e861ba49332eef1df13c65f409c79d8309bec

[JimmyJames]

sent 0.008 BTC
txid: 6a872d6cb75f4df28602d3ff34a64cac2ef70ccfe1ad2c00f2625a5f3c51c582

[Jamadharma]

Hi, i'm interested.

Transaction id: 2382398186124094291

Sent 80 NXT

Thx

[morigu777]

Interested

.008 BTC sent

TX ID: c2c0faa51ef5f1660a62d6814361c0756fd40b0bfc43bdaf8f089dcdc2e22ac1

[WMPfortheD]

Hi! I sent you 0.008 BTC!
here is the txid
4f25d84b39b2d38b28d5ee9f83a474164040654ab9c6cef723c6ad62b7e29c12
Interested!

[DingDong87]

.008 btc
d02bac8550566ae4af4c183386e3a8db51faf232052a220cbab1b244928d0315
thx

[bravoarmy]

sent 0.008 btc

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/f6b5777239705f09836e2f103e7a7df8ed2b4365d791038b8864802351772a25

[Kubera1]

hi, sent 0.008 btc

b0edfb881f6f24bf294b649f886c4a28507a650fb5431a047b04898dd8f32d1e

https://blockchain.info/ru/tx/b0edfb881f6f24bf294b649f886c4a28507a650fb5431a047b04898dd8f32d1e

interested 

thx