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May 26, 2018, 03:43:26 PM
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Market doesn't think what we think. it actually do opposite , so it's useless to think on short term if you are not a day trader. My theory is hold good coins for at least five years and you are good to go.
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May 26, 2018, 11:13:10 PM
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Hello, I have been hearing many rumors going around saying the rich are manipulating the market? does this statement uphold its value?

There are a lot of factors that really contributed to the bear market and it all started way back in January. When the market started to crumble down. Some say it all started with the Mt. Got trustee offloading his joins around that time, but the problem is that we didn't know it at the beginning. It was around March that we have uncovered, but its too late since bitcoin is below 5 digit by then. Followed by a lot of regulations and FUD and even the consensus week was not enough to push the price. And then the SEC investigations plus US and Canada crypto regulations joining force. That's some of the reasons that I can think of right now that might factor what causing their bearish trend that we are seeing for the last 5 months or so.

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May 27, 2018, 08:31:18 PM
Last edit: May 29, 2018, 03:13:06 AM by GoldenLad
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I guess it's the desire to earn more. Most investors and traders have really studied the market and knows what and in which direction it has been moving and decides to hold for a very long time after the price has moved up to their expected or desired price. And it also interesting to know that those whom have been bearish on cryptocurrency are those who mare earnings from it cause been a bearish investors requires patient. 
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May 27, 2018, 09:01:07 PM
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Hello, I have been hearing many rumors going around saying the rich are manipulating the market? does this statement uphold its value?
We all believe that its a yes so I have read some good points about the manipulation in the market and that's right, the rich investors or whales are doing this.

Giving high fake buy and sell orders to manipulate it and now they are being under investigation. The people behind the manipulation aren't just small traders but they are big time traders who can literally call as a whale.

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May 27, 2018, 09:06:48 PM
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Hello, I have been hearing many rumors going around saying the rich are manipulating the market? does this statement uphold its value?
this is what the pump and dump market says, when they (the rich) who hold large funds to be able to buy large amounts of bitcoin, they have the immunity to move a market, so the price can soar high, and vice versa
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May 27, 2018, 11:20:09 PM
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Before justifying what is a "bear trend" let me explain the meaning of bull and bear trend. Usually when we deal in crypto or any other stock, we usually come across these words they are used to depict the conditions of current market where bull shows and uptrend of market and bear means falling of market. And if you think rich investors started these trends, I totally agree as those are the only people which take benefits and curb the money of users which sell under the pressure of these trends.
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May 28, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
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Hello, I have been hearing many rumors going around saying the rich are manipulating the market? does this statement uphold its value?
The whales are holding huge amounts of bitcoin and can definitely manipulate the market if they want but I do not see a manipulation in the bear market, the bear market that we are seeing emerged naturally since it was impossible to maintain the previous bull run, now it is also possible that the futures market which was established not long ago is having an effect on the price as well.
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May 29, 2018, 06:06:51 AM
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Hello, I have been hearing many rumors going around saying the rich are manipulating the market? does this statement uphold its value?

Its really going to be hard in tracing it down to a particular source of one thing that led to the downward trend of price because several news, actions, comments that have been coming out negative have the potential to drive down the price to a point and every other panic seller would then fall in line to escalate to the extent of having a full blown bear market. I think the decision of the justice department of the United States report of their intention to investigate the manipulation of price must have added to those factors working against the price at this time.
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May 29, 2018, 09:27:45 AM
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My question is, if you holds a lot of amount of bitcoins and other top alternative coins, you are almost whale god in crypto market, it's depend on you if what do you want to do the value of bitcoin, is that right?
Being a whale alone isn't enough to manipulate the market, you need to have some help from your co-whales to shake the market.

It is not they are doing what they want to set the price of bitcoin base on what they like. Price of bitcoin is still depending on supply and demand.
As I remember before, the issue about Mt. Gox Cryptocurrency Exchange is one single whale that don't need co-whales who shake the market.
Any solution for this, to avoid manipulation of crypto markets?
There's no solution for this manipulation, this has been the problem even in other the same markets. Oligarchs in real economy, hoarders and other types of manipulators can't be gone.
It's impossible to make problem to other without any potential solution, maybe if the demand and supply of bitcoin will multiply more and more, it will be hard to them to manipulate the crypto market. The more supply of bitcoin or count of bitcoin can make their share small, which mean they need to have more share on bitcoin and other alt coins. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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May 29, 2018, 03:05:13 PM
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Maybe the lack of confidence.
When the FOMO returns, the price would rise
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May 29, 2018, 03:13:45 PM
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I saw a Crypto expert has said that Rothschild family and other main capitalists do it.
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May 29, 2018, 03:55:34 PM
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Hello, I have been hearing many rumors going around saying the rich are manipulating the market? does this statement uphold its value?

Its really going to be hard in tracing it down to a particular source of one thing that led to the downward trend of price because several news, actions, comments that have been coming out negative have the potential to drive down the price to a point and every other panic seller would then fall in line to escalate to the extent of having a full blown bear market. I think the decision of the justice department of the United States report of their intention to investigate the manipulation of price must have added to those factors working against the price at this time.
Well in most cases news coming from social medias really affects panic holders, some investors has been drive to sell their holdings thinking that the
trend will continue to downfall, those traders who didn't bothered to investigate very well are adding to the price movements, its not the whales that
bringing it down but the actions that weak holders did that's why we are still seeing bearish inside the exchange, just prevent yourself to deal with
crypto if you are planning to achieved your goals, things will bounce back we just needed to wait for it.
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May 29, 2018, 04:23:01 PM
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Bitcoin bear market is due to the market cycle after serious of pump market consolidating for previous high and this is the nature of market there will be sudden high in prices and sudden low
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May 31, 2018, 07:52:08 AM
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Well that's true that those rich people or the popular term for them is "whales" are accountable for this market. They are manipulating that with few increase 5-10% they'll sell, buy at dip rinse and repeat.
Bull run is not even something we should even be expecting any moment from now as it certainly does not look like it is ever going to happen anytime soon. The whales have always been able to trade people's emotion on the charts and they simply know how to keep doing that as far as they want the market to go either downward or upward and like you call it, rinse and repeat.

It is funny though that a lot of newbies always blame them for their loss when they should actually be blaming themselves. There are whales in every market and it is certainly not new.

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May 31, 2018, 08:58:41 AM
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It's always a challenge to invest or trade in cryptos. Price movement is not only influenced by the state of information but someone who has a large capital we called as a whales is the next challenge that must be accepted by every user cryptos. They have a large capital so that if the brand goes to market then market price will increase, and will many people will buy and when they (whales) out of the market market will decrease again.
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May 31, 2018, 09:17:33 AM
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My question is, if you holds a lot of amount of bitcoins and other top alternative coins, you are almost whale god in crypto market, it's depend on you if what do you want to do the value of bitcoin, is that right? Any solution for this, to avoid manipulation of crypto markets?
Well, let's say you have a significant amount of a coin's trading volume and you want to sell it all. You can first set the current market's price, but you will sell the coins so fast that people, seeing that a significant amount was sold will start selling their coins as fast as they can. For these purposes they'll keep lowering the prices for their orders to be filled. So, basically, yes, a lot of things depend on you if you own a significant amount of money. Avoiding such manipulations can be done only by more people joining the market, so that nobody's stake is big enough for significant manipulations. I thought it was the case with top cryptocurrencies, but I realize that it might be wrong, as the current market situation is very poor.

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May 31, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
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Market doesn't think what we think. it actually do opposite , so it's useless to think on short term if you are not a day trader. My theory is hold good coins for at least five years and you are good to go.

It is possible that big players from the market want to sell their existing position form the coin and want to buy in new coin or the new ICO which is coming due to which the small correction can happen as they are the million dollar investors. SO in relation many people do panic selling and this reason worsen as market tends to fall.
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June 01, 2018, 07:00:30 AM
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My question is, if you holds a lot of amount of bitcoins and other top alternative coins, you are almost whale god in crypto market, it's depend on you if what do you want to do the value of bitcoin, is that right?
Being a whale alone isn't enough to manipulate the market, you need to have some help from your co-whales to shake the market.

It is not they are doing what they want to set the price of bitcoin base on what they like. Price of bitcoin is still depending on supply and demand.
As I remember before, the issue about Mt. Gox Cryptocurrency Exchange is one single whale that don't need co-whales who shake the market.
Any solution for this, to avoid manipulation of crypto markets?
There's no solution for this manipulation, this has been the problem even in other the same markets. Oligarchs in real economy, hoarders and other types of manipulators can't be gone.
It's impossible to make problem to other without any potential solution, maybe if the demand and supply of bitcoin will multiply more and more, it will be hard to them to manipulate the crypto market. The more supply of bitcoin or count of bitcoin can make their share small, which mean they need to have more share on bitcoin and other alt coins. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I don’t think so that tracing back the reasons because of which the market value of the bitcoin and rest of the crypto coins have fallen is a good thing to do and that it will have any kind of positive impact. All you need to work upon is that you must look for the ways which can then help you in dealing the situation in a better way and that you can then have something better in return.
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June 01, 2018, 12:12:39 PM
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actually in this bearish trend we have to be smart in choosing a strategy to stay in transact, this bearish trend is also very high up a value, usually after the end of this bearish trend we will find the trend of a very pleasant bullish market and give us a lot of profit. I have several strategies to deal with this bearish market trend, such as;
first, buying stocks that grow. in this case, we can only buy shares from companies that have sales and profits that are still growing. If sales and profits are still growing, no matter how low the stocks, it will rise dramatically if it is in normal condition.
second, buying stocks while the sector is good. there is the opinion that no matter how good a stock (or the company that issued the shares), will not give a good price if the sector is not good enough or even ugly. therefore, be sure to only buy good stocks that are also in a good sector.
these are the two things I always do when a bearish trend occurs so I can keep trading even in small amounts.
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June 01, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
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Market is not easy and sometimes it seems absurd but actually it is not so. Trading and investing is not a simple action there are a lot of reasons which need to be analysed and trades who has not enough experience consider that somebody cheats them and manipulate market. It is not true. Look at gold it has the very long positive trend and anyone might buy and hold it several years. And nobody tell you exactly why crypto market are now bearish.
That is usually the thing. There would always be market makers as they are the ones who simply call the shot in every market and they are definitely in this market which I believe we can also refer to them as the institution and whales. However, everything is still based on the outside and I am sure there is really no way we cannot expect them not to keep making more money out of the noobs without experience who just want to make money from trading over night and there trading without any form of experience or knowledge.
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