Bitcoin Monopoly

[mizerydearia]

Continuation of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40934.msg516136#msg516136   Idea originally thought of by Blackout.

Discuss ideas for a Bitcoin Monopoly game information and perhaps additionally someone (or several someones) can take initiative in contacting Hasbro with effort in helping to make Bitcoin Monopoly a reality.

Come discuss at Freenode #bitopoly

[molecular]

Continuation of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40934.msg516136#msg516136

Discuss ideas for a Bitcoin Monopoly game information and perhaps additionally someone (or several someones) can take initiative in contacting Hasbro with effort in helping to make Bitcoin Monopoly a reality.

transferring the "card-ideas" from other thread...:

• Exchange Coding Error - collect 2^9 - 1 BTC
• Grid Blackout - your mining farm is offline for an hour - pay 10 BTC per mining farm
• Bank Fraud - pay 51% of your cash
• HELLO MY DEAR FRIEND, PLEASE HELP, I NEED TO GET RID OF USD 10,000,000
• You bought a product using Bitocin - roll dice: odd number: you receive goods, even number: you've been frauded, pay 5 BTC
• Rollback - each players last action is annulled
• From sale of socks you get 50 BTC.

EDIT: this idea was born by Blackout in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40934.msg515887#msg515887

In Monopoly of the future, will there be a:

"Bitcoin error in your favor, collect $4000 dollars"

[Blackout]

Awww man I came up with the idea and you don't even include my quote in the thread!

Tis ok I forgive you.

Actually, this would be a great programming project, create a bunch of standard board games or board game clones
that can be run in multiplayermode on the web and played for bitcoins.  So you could challenge your friend or friends to monopoly with X amount of BTC from each player in the pot.  You could do this with monopoly, risk, stratego, yahtzee, chess, scrabble,
pretty much anything.  I guess the site that provides this would hold the coins in escrow as the game is played so there would need to be some trust there but I'm sure trust could be built up over time as people could start playing with just micro amounts until the site builds up some reputation.

Bctontilt poker room has been doing fairly well, so I imagine a site like this would do fairly well, but I'm not a programmer.

[molecular]

Awww man I came up with the idea and you don't even include my quote in the thread!

So true. I credited you in 2nd post, all I can do.

About your idea: it might work, but it'd be a lot of work, not just programming. Also note: there's awesome implementations of many board games for iPad (I'm not a fan, but some games on there are just plain "well done"). Well, if just Apple would use Bitcoin, haha (prays they wont roll their own chain)

[ssaCEO]

Developing a Monopoly-style game has been one of our goals for a long time. Right now, we've got ChipWars, (a simple hexwar game, played with coins, which is similar to Risk). Parker Bros/Hasbro holds some of the most closely-guarded patents in the industry on "Monopoly" itself. Real-money Monopoly is a wonderful idea, just like it was played for $100 bills at the Playboy Mansion back in the '70s.

Our plan is to introduce something similar, but with unique rules.

If there are any programmers who'd like to work on something like this on the Sapphire platform, please get in touch through help@strikesapphire.com.

Required qualifications are a deep understanding of the LAMP stack; you can look at any SQL query and make it faster and more scalable at the same time; and extreme AS3 skills, as in you could write your own game engine within a couple weeks. Knowledge of Away3d and/or Papervision would be a big plus. We aren't currently hiring for full-time positions, but we'd like to get in touch with coders who are interested in working on the next generation of real-money turn-based games, particularly people who are already involved in the Bitcoin community and understand the terrain.

Edit: I should add that our platform already has all the hooks and most of the multiplayer / tournament / async style code required to run a game like this, and mostly it's a matter of plugging in rule sets and graphics. But before leaping, we want to create something really unique that makes the game truly our own, because we're all about original work, not ripping anybody off. So a turn-based hybrid between Monopoly and SimCity (or the original Dune) is closer to what we have in mind.

[Vod]

Continuation of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40934.msg516136#msg516136

Discuss ideas for a Bitcoin Monopoly game information and perhaps additionally someone (or several someones) can take initiative in contacting Hasbro with effort in helping to make Bitcoin Monopoly a reality.

Don't contact Hasbro - change the name to Bitopoly and you don't need to.  There are many legal Monopoly ripoffs already.

[rainingbitcoins]

A dog sniffs out your Silk Road package. Go Directly To Jail.

[evoorhees]

I would LOVE to play monopoly with Bitcoin! 

[ssaCEO]

I would LOVE to play monopoly with Bitcoin! 

The more I think about it, the more I think you should leave the US and work for us 

[evoorhees]

I would LOVE to play monopoly with Bitcoin! 

The more I think about it, the more I think you should leave the US and work for us 

Well that's nice of you but I'm not a developer... though I do know how to make text bold or italic in HTML 

[Blackout]

A dog sniffs out your Silk Road package. Go Directly To Jail.

LOL!

saphhire - sounds great but you don't take U.S. players.. (cry)  which i don't quite understand yet since bitcoin is non regulated

I agree the games could be clones.

evoorhees or anyone else - the best we can do now is XBOX Live version of Monopoly.  I've played a few friends for bitcoins
and it's rather fun. One of us hold the bitoins in escrow and just sends to the winner.

Monopoly Streets is great for this...  only up to 4 players though.

XBOX Live Tag: Blackouts Box

[evoorhees]

A dog sniffs out your Silk Road package. Go Directly To Jail.

LOL!

saphhire - sounds great but you don't take U.S. players.. (cry)  which i don't quite understand yet since bitcoin is non regulated

I agree the games could be clones.

evoorhees or anyone else - the best we can do now is XBOX Live version of Monopoly.  I've played a few friends for bitcoins
and it's rather fun. One of us hold the bitoins in escrow and just sends to the winner.

Monopoly Streets is great for this...  only up to 4 players though.

XBOX Live Tag: Blackouts Box

Oh cool!!  I have an xbox and the normal version of Monopoly for it (4 players). Hmmmm Blackout how hard would it be to make a simple website to coordinate games and bets?

[ssaCEO]

saphhire - sounds great but you don't take U.S. players.. (cry)  which i don't quite understand yet since bitcoin is non regulated

I know... I know. A purely skill-based game like Monopoly might actually be perfectly legal under US law, too. So I'm hoping we'll be able to spin off a board game site at some point for US players. Our take on Poker was that it was OK too, until the FT/PS shutdowns went into effect... but the problem for us at this point is that once you have money in our system, you can gamble it on games of luck like Roulette, and at that point it doesn't really matter what method you used to get money in or out of the system, it's definitely not legal in the States.

If we can make the transition to more board/skill-based Bitcoin games over time, and have enough to offer a suite of them for US players, then we definitely will.

[molecular]

saphhire - sounds great but you don't take U.S. players.. (cry)  which i don't quite understand yet since bitcoin is non regulated

I know... I know. A purely skill-based game like Monopoly might actually be perfectly legal under US law, too.

purely skill-based? Monopoly? I tend to think there's too much luck involved in monopoly, especially when I loose, of course.

[mizerydearia]

How about when you tight?

[Anonymous]

There has to be a way to place the game servers in a neutral-zone and allow anybody to gamble, no questions asked. This is the internet we're talking about. It's supposed to be a sovereign entity. I don't know why law is such an issue especially with Bitcoin of all things.

[ssaCEO]

There has to be a way to place the game servers in a neutral-zone and allow anybody to gamble, no questions asked. This is the internet we're talking about. It's supposed to be a sovereign entity. I don't know why law is such an issue especially with Bitcoin of all things.

Yeah well, since I've expostulated on America and the hopelessness of everything else, why not tackle this question? It's a natch.

Sovereignty? Sovereignty's a polite word for a self-proclaimed right to use deadly force in defense of what's otherwise morally or logically indefensible; and continued sovereignty is the ability to do so successfully on an ongoing basis, mostly by pillaging your own population for their naturally just earnings and sending their first-born children to have their legs blown off and/or sending their second-born through X-rays at the airport to have their nuts irradiated.

Sovereignty's the big game huntin' law of the jungle. And if you think having access to the internet on some ISP or over a VPN or a dedicated server in Berserkerstan can buy you an ounce of sovereignty, think 'gain.

I happened to be sitting at a friendly poker game with 5 or 6 FBI agents back in 1999... I won't get too detailed here, but I remember the conversation turned to Carnivore and whether or not they could really monitor what was happening on the internet. One agent said, "Unfortunately, that ship's sailed." And the rest agreed.

Those guys didn't give up. They got it figured out now to the point where giving you an internet connection is twice as effective as putting you in front of a TV screen for marketing, and about a million times more effective for monitoring.

Get down to the bottom line -- how's a neutral, self-proclaimed sovereign online gaming house gonna get its online profits? Paypal freezes accounts over about $3k. Move more than $10k into a bank anywhere in the world without a license and paying your taxes, forget it, it'll never get to you. In Greece, you can't spend more than €1500 in a cash transaction or it's considered money laundering. The rest of the world will follow as austerity sets in. Austerity's the new word for 666. Move anything through credit cards you're screwed. Want to avoid the mark of the beast? Try Bitcoin -- one exchange runs away with all your money, another exchange can't process more than $10k a month, another exchange suddenly freezes withdrawal methods. Make all the money you want in the neutral zone -- it's just more for the real sovereigns to collect at their leisure.

The problem with online gambling isn't running the site. It's actually getting your money for running it. And it turns out that all payment methods on the internet -- including Bitcoin -- are tied up in this Gordian knot where without sovereignty -- and the force to back it, or the money to buy it -- it'll just go 'round and round 'til you're either in prison or ruined.

And that's why we don't take American players. It's called pickin' your battles. And that's why you can't just startup one of these things without thinking about the consequences.

[BBmodBB]

Continuation of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40934.msg516136#msg516136

Discuss ideas for a Bitcoin Monopoly game information and perhaps additionally someone (or several someones) can take initiative in contacting Hasbro with effort in helping to make Bitcoin Monopoly a reality.

transferring the "card-ideas" from other thread...:

• Exchange Coding Error - collect 2^9 - 1 BTC
• Grid Blackout - your mining farm is offline for an hour - pay 10 BTC per mining farm
• Bank Fraud - pay 51% of your cash
• HELLO MY DEAR FRIEND, PLEASE HELP, I NEED TO GET RID OF USD 10,000,000
• You bought a product using Bitocin - roll dice: odd number: you receive goods, even number: you've been frauded, pay 5 BTC
• Rollback - each players last action is annulled
• From sale of socks you get 50 BTC.

EDIT: this idea was born by Blackout in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40934.msg515887#msg515887

In Monopoly of the future, will there be a:

"Bitcoin error in your favor, collect $4000 dollars"

" From sale of socks you get 50 BTC "


^those must be some freaking awesome socks man!!!!  

[keithers]

This could be made into an awesome gambling game, like playing Monopoly with real dollars .   I believe in regular Monopoly you start off with $1500, which is a pretty expensive gambling game, but the money can be broken down into smaller denominations.

This would be really fun to play online for real money...

[zetaray]

I love this idea! To overcome patent issues. Use world cities for each property, airports for railway stations, use oil and nuclear for utilities, and we have a game.

Will definitely play if developed.