How do you feel about this?

[guybrushthreepwood]

Well, nobody forces them to work for Apple. Its their choice. In fact chinese people wish to work there

Spoken like a true IFascist Applefanboy lol.

Erm, I speak the truth. Nobody forces them to work for apple. I'd say to them "Go mine DOGE man, wth are you doing at this dump" but they woldnt listen

And I don't like apple stuff. More fond of windows/android.

And child soldiers chose their preferred profession, it's not like they had to do it to survive.

It's not usually a case of survival. They're usually just kidnapped and forced to do it. Blood Diamond is a good film to watch about this.

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[seanmct]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

[Sutters Mill]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

[hilariousandco]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

[Sutters Mill]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

[hilariousandco]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

[Sutters Mill]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

[hilariousandco]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

Because the technology and electronics doesn't really work as easily as just swapping parts around - Phones are not just elaborate lego designs. It's a great idea, but not sure how technologically feasible it is. Read the comments: http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/ask-hackaday-can-we-do-better-than-phonebloks/ & http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/1m4m0f/this_is_currently_on_the_front_page_a_good/

I'd love to be proved wrong though.

[Sutters Mill]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

Because the technology and electronics doesn't really work as easily as just swapping parts around - Phones are not just elaborate lego designs. It's a great idea, but not sure how technologically feasible it is. Read the comments: http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/ask-hackaday-can-we-do-better-than-phonebloks/ & http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/1m4m0f/this_is_currently_on_the_front_page_a_good/

I'd love to be proved wrong though.

Yeah maybe you're right. I would have thought Motorola would know a little about electronics though. I guess we will see. My wifi has gone in my iPhone so I'm all for being able to replace it that easily!

[Faince1985]

I think many companies that operate in china have such working conditions,I don't feel comfortable to the way they are treated there but I have doubts about any company that operate in china. The solutions should come from china itself by making laws for workers safety and salaries if it already crossed the we-don't-care area and already became a country that care about it's people.

[hilariousandco]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

Because the technology and electronics doesn't really work as easily as just swapping parts around - Phones are not just elaborate lego designs. It's a great idea, but not sure how technologically feasible it is. Read the comments: http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/ask-hackaday-can-we-do-better-than-phonebloks/ & http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/1m4m0f/this_is_currently_on_the_front_page_a_good/

I'd love to be proved wrong though.

Yeah maybe you're right. I would have thought Motorola would know a little about electronics though. I guess we will see. My wifi has gone in my iPhone so I'm all for being able to replace it that easily!

Well it's a good idea, but not sure if they can pull it off as much as they'd like too. They'll probably just end up with a phone where you can replace the battery or a few other parts easily. If they do succeed I doubt it'll look or work as slick as the one in that video, but as I say, I'd love to have my scepticism demolished.

[Sutters Mill]

Not good at all, but unfortunately hard to find a manufacturer that doesn't do this. People like to think they don't support this sort of thing but sure most people would be more opposed to prices going up to allow fair wages without hurting profit margins.

There's an alternative coming in the mobile phone industry, called PhoneBlocks. There are some good vids on youtube explaining it. Essentially, it's a phone with customisable/replaceable parts. Must be better for the environment too.

Wasn't that just a concept and not an actual workable idea? It's great as an idea, but I'm not sure how workable or how easy it is to implement.

Nope, Motorola have teamed up to start making it

http://m.ibtimes.com/phonebloks-motorola-partners-3d-systems-modular-smartphone-future-project-ara-1485168

I'm still sceptical this will work out, and if it does it won't work anywhere near as well or look like how it's presented in that video.

What makes you say that?

Because the technology and electronics doesn't really work as easily as just swapping parts around - Phones are not just elaborate lego designs. It's a great idea, but not sure how technologically feasible it is. Read the comments: http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/ask-hackaday-can-we-do-better-than-phonebloks/ & http://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/1m4m0f/this_is_currently_on_the_front_page_a_good/

I'd love to be proved wrong though.

Yeah maybe you're right. I would have thought Motorola would know a little about electronics though. I guess we will see. My wifi has gone in my iPhone so I'm all for being able to replace it that easily!

Well it's a good idea, but not sure if they can pull it off as much as they'd like too. They'll probably just end up with a phone where you can replace the battery or a few other parts easily. If they do succeed I doubt it'll look or work as slick as the one in that video, but as I say, I'd love to have my scepticism demolished.

Yeah you're probably right. Think that's just the concept at the moment. This idea can be applied to loads of things. Cars that you can upgrade/replace parts easily without a mechanic,
For example.

[5thStreetResearch]

I dont think the workers making Samsung phones are exactly having a blast either

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I suppose I think of them about as often as they do about me.

[Sutters Mill]

I dont think the workers making Samsung phones are exactly having a blast either

True. Samsung imposed such poor working conditions in its Brazilian manufacturing facility that the Brazilian government sued them!

Quote from an article I found online:

A US-based NGO, China Labor Watch, has compared the working conditions at Samsung with the situation seen in China at Apple's manufacturer Foxconn. But this is different - Apple had a service contract with Foxconn, who treated its employees poorly despite telling their client that labor regulations would be respected. This is not to say that Apple wasn't also at fault, but the company treated the situation in a transparent manner and Tim Cook made sure that he was seen flying to China to demand changes. Requirements were raised so the bar was set higher across its entire supply chain and the Fair Labor Association got involved in the process.

With Samsung in Brazil, it is a different story. In this case there is no outsourced contractor to blame - we are talking about poor working conditions at their own factories. When questioned about the latest lawsuit, Samsung sent me a one-paragraph statement, which said that it is "committed to providing a workplace that adheres to the highest standards in the industry in relation to safety, health and wellbeing" and that it will fully cooperate with the Brazilian authorities when notified.

[FalconFly]

[TheFootMan]

I've been reading more and more about the poor working conditions of some of Apple's outsourced manufacturing plants. My question is, what are your thoughts?

I'm writing this from an iPad please bear in mind, so I'm not taking any high ground.

Is it enough for you to think about changing your device in future?

See this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092277/Apple-Poor-working-conditions-inside-Chinese-factories-making-iPads.html

(Yes, it's the daily mail)

Well, you want cheap devices, do you not. Can you imagine what would happen if all workes had a 50% raise in their wage? Correct, your devices would be more expensive as well.

As for unethical and bad conditions, it's rampant everywhere. A lot of the stuff you use in daily life is either produced by poor workers, or is made by companies who participate in unethical business practices. Once a company reach a certain size, there's always something bad going on inside it.

[Sutters Mill]

I've been reading more and more about the poor working conditions of some of Apple's outsourced manufacturing plants. My question is, what are your thoughts?

I'm writing this from an iPad please bear in mind, so I'm not taking any high ground.

Is it enough for you to think about changing your device in future?

See this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092277/Apple-Poor-working-conditions-inside-Chinese-factories-making-iPads.html

(Yes, it's the daily mail)

Well, you want cheap devices, do you not. Can you imagine what would happen if all workes had a 50% raise in their wage? Correct, your devices would be more expensive as well.

As for unethical and bad conditions, it's rampant everywhere. A lot of the stuff you use in daily life is either produced by poor workers, or is made by companies who participate in unethical business practices. Once a company reach a certain size, there's always something bad going on inside it.

True, it's really got me thinking about it in everyday life. The laptop I'm writing on now while checking my phone in front of the TV that my son is watching. All made affordable to me by the exploitation of other people

[howzar]

The whole working system and worker's rights system in china should be revised because it clearly give advantage to all business/factories owners and take away worker's right.

[hilariousandco]

I suppose I think of them about as often as they do about me.

I somehow doubt that's true.

I've been reading more and more about the poor working conditions of some of Apple's outsourced manufacturing plants. My question is, what are your thoughts?

I'm writing this from an iPad please bear in mind, so I'm not taking any high ground.

Is it enough for you to think about changing your device in future?

See this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092277/Apple-Poor-working-conditions-inside-Chinese-factories-making-iPads.html

(Yes, it's the daily mail)

Well, you want cheap devices, do you not. Can you imagine what would happen if all workes had a 50% raise in their wage? Correct, your devices would be more expensive as well.

iPhones and iPads aren't exactly cheap.