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[ProfessorZ]

When machines come to an agreement
https://twitter.com/Zenon_Network/status/1183837836266655744?s=20

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[ProfessorZ]

Pillars Lock-in Phase
https://twitter.com/Zenon_Network/status/1184851330977931264?s=20

[Guccifund]

https://twitter.com/Zenon_Network/status/1190022011571068935

Nice way to incentivise your community.

[MatthewOConnell]

What is a pillar?

[Antoni4EVA1984]

This looks like the most shady project in history

No Market Cap or Circulating supply for a project that has been around for a year. No information on who is behind the project. Also on CMC it say's All Time High £2.09 GBP (Jun 24, 2019) .............. but for the 52 Week High it say's £9.49 GBP.

It is only listed on Crex & Stex exchange. Please no one get sucked into this sham, you will regret I am 100% sure.

[Xapp]

SCAM SCAM SCAM AND MORE SCAM


Dude it's a scam and everyone knows it
Jack being behind it, is the biggest joke i've ever seen.
Zenon in the space ?? WTF.. you are added on scam exchange only! You are such a joke!
Zapp not dapp, that's even a bigger joke
Elon being behind zenon, WOW when will you guy going to STOP LYING??

SCAM SCAM SCAM AND MORE SCAM

A secret team working on it.. and they haven't done anything.
They have a shitty wallet that doesn't even work.
Where are the dapps or zapp? none.
This has to be the worst scam coin ever.

[Antoni4EVA1984]

THE FUTURE IS HERE

PAC Global together with The World's largest blockchain networks like #bitcoin #ethereum.
The company is still in its early stage and has a lot of room to grow.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pac-global/

You're spamming this scam on a scam thread stop posting this on all the Bitcointalk threads it is clearly looking bad about your scam project.

[trgnn]

SCAM SCAM SCAM AND MORE SCAM


Dude it's a scam and everyone knows it
Jack being behind it, is the biggest joke i've ever seen.
Zenon in the space ?? WTF.. you are added on scam exchange only! You are such a joke!
Zapp not dapp, that's even a bigger joke
Elon being behind zenon, WOW when will you guy going to STOP LYING??

SCAM SCAM SCAM AND MORE SCAM

A secret team working on it.. and they haven't done anything.
They have a shitty wallet that doesn't even work.
Where are the dapps or zapp? none.
This has to be the worst scam coin ever.

If you think it's a scam, then bring us solid direct proofs instead of using bold fonts. It'd be way more useful and enlight my days. I insist on the solid and direct proofs. If you can't do this, then you're just some noise.

[trgnn]

Oh, my bad. I'm answering a noob account with 1 post. Nevermind and don't bother answering my comment Luna.

[Corn Chowda]

Best R/R alt in all of crypto - fudders just want to get enough for a pillar and I don't blame them - they didn't get in early enough and know it. Some scammer "Luna", who is a complete reprobate, tried to steal tokens in a hack and nearly got away with it, but Zenon team blocked those coins, and has been chirping in the Zenon TG channel with silly fud before getting the heave ho multiple times. We know what we've got here and both the the whitepaper and testnet are coming at the perfect time, just before next bullrun. This is a rocketship.

[Fatoshi]

I formally want to stop complaining about this situation. The malice was done by Luna and I still think the team made a mistake but I know which I paid for BUT I don't want to drag my soul into this stuff. I wish the team success and I hope the project does well. Just as sad as losing money is feeling like I'm a criminal and being treated like one. Gonna miss being in Discord and being part of this fun journey of finding clues and shit. Hurt having people delete my TG accounts when I actually needed a bit of help getting over this. But now I've come to terms nothing will ever be done and so want to drop it. A sincere God Bless to the team and bright future where we have freedom of speech online that can't be censored.  

[Fatoshi]

Multiple accounts provided evidence on twitter about this being a scam. They literally ban everyone that ask a pertinent question and report every medium post for take down.

Latest evidence is them banning an user asking for full proof on the hacker case.

Checked your past posting. Yep Russian. I would bet good money you are Luna that hacked Zenon and stole my Bitcoin and got the Zenon I bought blocked. I don't believe in Karma but I do believe God avenges the righteous. Change your ways or things will never be good for you. Trust me on this.

[Corn Chowda]

"Checked your past posting. Yep Russian. I would bet good money you are Luna that hacked Zenon and stole my Bitcoin and got the Zenon I bought blocked. I don't believe in Karma but I do believe God avenges the righteous. Change your ways or things will never be good for you. Trust me on this. "

Like you bet your money on Zenon Network and they blocked your coins without any explanation?

So if I am russian I must be a hacker according to your judgment no? All russians are hackers...can you provide some evidence that I am Luna or you just want to deceive people into thinking that, like the team does, when someone is presenting some facts that are truly happening?

It seems no one wants to discuss the facts backed by evidence :

- zmnscpxj (squarecrypto confirmed account working on lightning network) confirms that Squarecrypto has nothing to do with Zenon Network. he even posts a weekly log that that can be verified
This was purely speculative by a Zenon supporter because of the name resembling a Zenon wallet address. I thought it was an example of seeing something where there is actually nothing. The only thing he ever said in response is that he's a lightning developer and doesn't speak on behalf of Square for anything else they may or may not be doing, essentially "I have nothing to do with other things they may or may not be working on."
- Team lies about non-ICO, isn't transparent about how much money they raised in ICO
It is true that there is not information about how much was raised. I've seen some claim that a few million USD was raised, but this is impossible to confirm. It seems reasonable considering the lack of hype and marketing at that time, but it would be nice to know for sure. Here's what we do know: they offered 5000 ZNN per BTC. BTC is returned through XStakes over 24 months as long as it is staked without interruption. In spite of that lack of clarity, this suggests it is not a scam.
- calls premine -"personal investment"
Where do they call premine a personal investment? I've never seen this and I'd like to. Having context is extremely important here. It could be argued that the developers invest time and deserve to get something back - they have bills, too.
- bans people that ask non welcomed questions Some people on discord ask the same questions over and over and expect everything to be answered in full detail every time. The team clearly doesn't want to disclose every detail, for example about the hacks that occurred. The people who ask over and over about this get banned because it spams the forum. All I will say is if someone doesn't feel comfortable with their answers, they are under no obligation to take on the risk. This does not make it a scam as you claim, just maybe a less friendly experience than other discord channels. I agree that more transparency would be better, but this is how they roll.

- has an explorer with no rich list This might have something to do with them not having an ico to protect contributor's information, which they state on their website. (I think it's likely because they're based in the U.S., so that would make sense with their strict KYC laws). I don't know for certain, just a guess. How this would make it a scam is unclear to me. Please explain.  
- has a roadmap full of wallet updates Wallet updates indicates a scam? They're using a pivx fork, which is not the greatest as we all know. Updates happen. Other events have happened besides the updates to the wallet, like the pillar lock in and the incubator. Whitepaper is next. Be patient!
- coin is listed on some exchanges known for listing shady coins Stex and Crex24 have plenty of legit coins. Name an exchange that doesn't list a shady coin. I'll wait.

https://twitter.com/sqcrypto/status/1204815615678177280
https://twitter.com/CryptoQuestor/status/1225184642141167616
https://zmnscpxj.github.io/activity/2020-01-30.html
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4281633.100
https://zenonnetworkscam.com


Why wont they provide full details about the two hacks? 1. Minting 2.5 million ZNN out of thin air. 2. Staking exploit that made the hacker an undisclosed number of coins.
- Exploits used
- addresses involved and coins blocked
- how many coins did the hacker managed to sell on exchanges and OTC before they blocked his coins from the second hack. In the first hack the hacker sent the coins to the team's addresses. I wonder why he would do that ? Did he got payed to do that? He says he got 30k ZNN as shown in the evidence above. Seems that some people in the zenon tg want others to believe that they made an update for the first hack and this is how they blocked the coins. Clearly a lie and the team bans you if you ask the right questions as shown above in this thread.

Hacker's address from the first hack when he minted 2.5 million ZNN (I see a big number of coins entering and leaving this address besides those 2.5m, wondering what's up with that?) :

https://explorer.zenon.community/address/?address=ZPGAaMBi6qmsDqnDmTbo8YVscknTxTGx2R   - As you can see those 2.5 million znn where sent to the 4 developer addresses on June 15 (4 transfers of around 640000 znn). If we check when the team made updates on their github, there is no update in those days...https://github.com/zenonnetwork/zenon/commits/master - All we can see is may 6 and june 21. This proves the hacker sent the coins on goodwill to the 4 developer addresses. What did he get in return

The 4 developer addresses :

https://explorer.zenon.community/address/?address=Zb6KERQRrLAG7yKfY41KRj4KF74MVKK6dh
https://explorer.zenon.community/address/?address=ZYSHQShgULYLQ12McM8nzjYAx8xJ5Qyogt
https://explorer.zenon.community/address/?address=ZFEh97V52dr7RSNSuGEUfXrcUu3tyMPQoG
https://explorer.zenon.community/address/?address=ZG3nvGon4GGak2eo1V9ifPCR3bMY7XNAgV

As an investor I would be more concerned about this facts, rather than who is the hacker, even though that is important also.

Those 4 addresses received the hacked coins and were sent to an address where they were burned:  https://explore.zenon.network/address/ZNNisBurnedHereDoNotSendZNNXZZkEhL

Each address contains about equal amounts which total approximately 800k, which is the developer fund used for various purposes. The

This I'd like to know more about, but it's entirely possible that a whitehat took them back from the hacker and returned them to Zenon. Also, they could have patched the exploit without adding it to github. I don't know for sure. You are correct that they haven't given every detail about the hack. I don't know enough about this situation to say a whole lot, but the coins were burned.

As an investor I would be more concerned why are you erasing your posts here or edit them. Why do you think this hacker has done more damage to you when you bought this coins on an exchange and those coins were approved by the team? That has nothing to do with the hacker. Team didn't blocked those coins and you bought from him supposedly, because we can't know that for sure if the team doesn't provide the above details about the hacks...I find it very odd that you delete your posts, make peace with loosing 50 BTC and direct your anger against the hacker when the team blocked your bought coins for no reason...

https://i.ibb.co/zPpRXP4/111.png


https://i.ibb.co/WBdCWc4/2222.png

^ Nobody can read these.

You do raise some good questions, but I personally don't think you've proven that it is a scam. Certain things lack transparency, which is too much for some investors. I completely understand that position. However, I do not see any proof that it is a scam. Hopefully we can find more information and better understand the answers to the questions we both have. I still think it's a strong buy for me personally - as far as risk/reward is concerned, it's well worth having a reasonable position in this. Let's see what happens! Best of luck to you.

 

[Corn Chowda]

Yep, still a strong buy with a reasonable position all things considered. I know you've gone to great lengths to fud the project, spending considerable amounts of time on it. One has to wonder why. Whatever the case may be, nobody is going to do anything until the whitepaper is here, which I expect on 3/21. Have a nice day!

[KhanJohnson]

Zenon is being adopted by Apsis Online for the next major release, V5.  This was done as Zenon simply worked with my backend and is a good fit thematically. Details in regard to the integration can be found here! 

[Fatoshi]

I really didn't want to continue this but I got caught up in an argument in chat about it. It triggered the thought about CB being peer to peer, I checked and it 100% proves my account was purchases. I really hope the team rectify this. The picture shows all my little purchase and also they show me transferring to HEWO account as he helped me get them off CB. This is proof I bought the hackers coins. At least an apology and also maybe work out which ones weren't the hackers tokens cause I couldn't of only bought his surely.


https://cryptofresh.com/u/hyunsook8


https://imgur.com/a/fW6ZnRN


This has brought up my anger at this situation again as IM NOT THE HACKER!!!!!

But I hope this proves 100% i was buying!!! The team made a mistake.

Edit: I had a quick click around and clearly I bought off many accounts so I couldn't of just bought from hackers stolen coins which I admit maybe I have no right to. But legitimate purchases of community members are confiscated? What rationale is that based on?

[Corn Chowda]

I really didn't want to continue this but I got caught up in an argument in chat about it. It triggered the thought about CB being peer to peer, I checked and it 100% proves my account was purchases. I really hope the team rectify this. The picture shows all my little purchase and also they show me transferring to HEWO account as he helped me get them off CB. This is proof I bought the hackers coins. At least an apology and also maybe work out which ones weren't the hackers tokens cause I couldn't of only bought his surely.


https://cryptofresh.com/u/hyunsook8


https://imgur.com/a/fW6ZnRN


This has brought up my anger at this situation again as IM NOT THE HACKER!!!!!

But I hope this proves 100% i was buying!!! The team made a mistake.

Edit: I had a quick click around and clearly I bought off many accounts so I couldn't of just bought from hackers stolen coins which I admit maybe I have no right to. But legitimate purchases of community members are confiscated? What rationale is that based on?

What did you pay for all of those ZNN? There are several 10,000 ZNN transfers - huge amounts, so I'm curious.

[Fatoshi]

I really didn't want to continue this but I got caught up in an argument in chat about it. It triggered the thought about CB being peer to peer, I checked and it 100% proves my account was purchases. I really hope the team rectify this. The picture shows all my little purchase and also they show me transferring to HEWO account as he helped me get them off CB. This is proof I bought the hackers coins. At least an apology and also maybe work out which ones weren't the hackers tokens cause I couldn't of only bought his surely.


https://cryptofresh.com/u/hyunsook8


https://imgur.com/a/fW6ZnRN


This has brought up my anger at this situation again as IM NOT THE HACKER!!!!!

But I hope this proves 100% i was buying!!! The team made a mistake.

Edit: I had a quick click around and clearly I bought off many accounts so I couldn't of just bought from hackers stolen coins which I admit maybe I have no right to. But legitimate purchases of community members are confiscated? What rationale is that based on?

What did you pay for all of those ZNN? There are several 10,000 ZNN transfers - huge amounts, so I'm curious.

I would have to trawl through all the dates I bought them but back when I was buying BTC was less than now and Zenon was often around .00013. I do what I always do I look for gems and against all normal wisdom market buy hard. I thought I was lucky so many people were selling honestly cause I did deep research on the Twitter handles and came to the 100% conclusion this IS what we all hope it is not that crazy to buy the way I did. I maybe threw 40btc in from selling 2/3rd of my alts. I had done well on Quant and Holo last year so had dragged my portfolio out of the mire so yeah it was a lot to buy, I'm not a careful trader. I tend to go big when I buy. But in the end there are are hell of a lot of people that would call me a minnow especially as I've been in crypto since 2011. Actually Ive done quite badly. 

[Fatoshi]

So I tried to talk to Sigili on chat today and he keeps insisting im the hacker even though the blockchain proves I'm not. Sorry but what an asshole. He has digged in even further to protect himself from the truth that the team and him stole my funds. I hope this never happens to anyone here as its fucking horrible having funds taken out of your private wallet where you hold the private keys. This isn't Crypto..

So All I can see is I will now almost definitely seek legal action IF the team ever go public. A theft was made on private funds and the blockchain backs this up. I don't know anything about hacking but as Im innocent there cant be any evidence against me so i will confidently sue the team. What pisses me off if they think this is on in the eye for Luna when actually they just screwed a community member and Luna is probably laughing his ass off about this somewhere.

Ok guys, lets see you in court in the future IF you ever go public or even I can prove SQ is Zenon...which you gave all the clues you are so....Hold onto 180k ZNN or 50 BTC cause its gonna be very expensive to pay pack in a few years.

[Corn Chowda]

The time is at hand, folks. Release of the whitepaper is imminent, and will be followed by 2 more significant announcements. Interestingly, nobody guessed all 3 announcements correctly on their Twitter account, so perhaps there will be something unexpected.