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May 26, 2018, 08:44:50 AM
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Now a days the level of spamming in bitcointalk thread has increased. I am newbee and a solid fan of this network. Many people participating with numerous alt account in various campaign. Playing signature and degrading the quality of this forum day bt day. Participating in campaign is not a crime but when one man participating with 10 twitter 10 Facebook and 10 btc, it should be a crime.

I urge the senior member to make a move for this problems. Thats why I have chosen this username. But what will be the way if I find multi alt accounts. Is there any way to inform in efficient way?

Should I pm the moderator with proof?
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May 26, 2018, 08:47:10 AM
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Post in the reputation section. Moderators don't moderate alt accounts that are in enrolled in the same campaign. Scams aren't moderated either. Look at other threads in the reputation section to see what stands as proof

I will say though try, and keep it within one thread, and not multiple ones.

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May 26, 2018, 10:38:48 AM
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Or you can just report to moderator about the bounty campaign having a multiple account enrolled in that simple reporting you slap the face of that user using a multiple account simultaneously to earn unprofessional money.

The battle between alt account and alt finder is a never ending war and I suppose even if you enforce art of war strategy the quarrel will live for another day like what your phrasing day by day in and out also being an active alt finder is a huge help for the community just make sure to patrol constantly you will find some of them.

P.S. With the help of merit system it is now easy to find if an account is an alt.
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May 26, 2018, 10:59:13 AM
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Or you can just report to moderator about the bounty campaign having a multiple account enrolled in that simple reporting you slap the face of that user using a multiple account simultaneously to earn unprofessional money.
Bounty campaigns aren't moderated. Staff will not do anything, therefore it's a waste of yours, and their time reporting it.

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May 26, 2018, 11:07:45 AM
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Will you report yourself for an alt account? You are clearly an alt account of someone because you know many things about the forum despite being a newbie.

Creating a single moderated thread in the reputation boards as suggested by @Welsh is the most appropriate one. Another thing is that not only Senior members are the one you should be urging about this issue, in fact, even member ranks are also reporting multiple accounts they find in the forum.
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May 26, 2018, 01:03:45 PM
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Or you can just report to moderator about the bounty campaign having a multiple account enrolled in that simple reporting you slap the face of that user using a multiple account simultaneously to earn unprofessional money.
Bounty campaigns aren't moderated. Staff will not do anything, therefore it's a waste of yours, and their time reporting it.
I never knew that a bounty campaign isn't moderated by moderator I suppose if somehow someone know that a bounty campaign having a massive alt account enrolled at least it gives bounty manager a hint that his/her campaign is not going as s/he intended/prepared.
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May 26, 2018, 01:25:44 PM
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Will you report yourself for an alt account? You are clearly an alt account of someone because you know many things about the forum despite being a newbie.

I urge the senior member to make a move for this problems. Thats why I have chosen this username. But what will be the way if I find multi alt accounts. Is there any way to inform in efficient way?

May be you ARE a senior member. You could set an example if you would post the topic from your main account. I wonder what worse will happen if you do all these things from your main account?

Any way like Welsh, Kim Ji Won and other said... a single moderated thread will be a better option.

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May 26, 2018, 01:37:56 PM
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Or you can just report to moderator about the bounty campaign having a multiple account enrolled in that simple reporting you slap the face of that user using a multiple account simultaneously to earn unprofessional money.
Bounty campaigns aren't moderated. Staff will not do anything, therefore it's a waste of yours, and their time reporting it.
I never knew that a bounty campaign isn't moderated by moderator I suppose if somehow someone know that a bounty campaign having a massive alt account enrolled at least it gives bounty manager a hint that his/her campaign is not going as s/he intended/prepared.
having multiple accounts is allowed and mods will not ban you f
but enrolling multi accounts (alts) in a bounty campaign is prohibited by its campaign manager
the manager can expose those multi accounts and get them listed in Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2018 Q2)

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May 26, 2018, 03:02:30 PM
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I can't imagine a person who is able to enter and do work every day with 10 accounts in fb, tw or signature campaign. What the reason for it? If you can take 10 different bounties with 1 acc instead of take 1 bounty on 10 accounts Huh

In my opinion this is not a crime, but stupidity
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May 26, 2018, 04:20:48 PM
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I can't imagine a person who is able to enter and do work every day with 10 accounts in fb, tw or signature campaign. What the reason for it? If you can take 10 different bounties with 1 acc instead of take 1 bounty on 10 accounts Huh
There seem to be entire families involved in the bounty thing and networks of "friends" on top of that.  I envision huge rooms full of young people sitting at laptops, shitposting away for probably 8 hours at a clip--and NOT using just one bitcointalk account to do so, but many accounts.  Do I have proof of this?  Not exactly, but there has been some evidence of it based on ban appeals and PMs when they get caught enrolling alts in bounties.  It's a suspicion that's not without reason.

With multiple people and multiple accounts for each person, these turds can make a pretty good living in their countries.  That's why they do it, because it's lucrative and doesn't require them to bust their asses in a factory or whatever.  I certainly can understand why it's being done, but I still condemn the behavior.

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I can't imagine a person who is able to enter and do work every day with 10 accounts in fb, tw or signature campaign. What the reason for it? If you can take 10 different bounties with 1 acc instead of take 1 bounty on 10 accounts Huh
There seem to be entire families involved in the bounty thing and networks of "friends" on top of that.  I envision huge rooms full of young people sitting at laptops, shitposting away for probably 8 hours at a clip--and NOT using just one bitcointalk account to do so, but many accounts.  Do I have proof of this?  Not exactly, but there has been some evidence of it based on ban appeals and PMs when they get caught enrolling alts in bounties.  It's a suspicion that's not without reason.

With multiple people and multiple accounts for each person, these turds can make a pretty good living in their countries.  That's why they do it, because it's lucrative and doesn't require them to bust their asses in a factory or whatever.  I certainly can understand why it's being done, but I still condemn the behavior.
SE Asia clickfarms are notorious for trying to bomb activities that pay cents per action. This has been happening with Facebook likes which are usually purchased by clients in the west but I don't see why those operating clickfarms wouldn't move to crypto if it's more lucrative. In fact, faucet owners will already tell you that the majority of their traffic come from regions with super low minimum wages and per capita GDP like South and SE Asia (Nepal, India, Indonesia) and also Russia, Kazakhstan etc. This is a growing trend with bounties ofc and can turn much more lucrative.

Bounty campaign managers doing manual checking of work are overwhelmed with submitted tasks and hence quality control is lacking. Imagine a single person being tasked with reviewing tens of thousands of FB/Twitter posts etc. 



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May 26, 2018, 04:48:57 PM
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I urge the senior member to make a move for this problems. Thats why I have chosen this username. But what will be the way if I find multi alt accounts. Is there any way to inform in efficient way?

A senior member can do nothing about it. The only way to stop these alt account bounty cheaters is to report them to the "Reputation" section in the proper thread here :

Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2018 Q2)

Do provide all the necessary proofs of why you believe the accounts are connected and all. If proven beyond reasonable doubt that they are alt accounts and thus cheating campaigns then they will be tagged with negative trust from DT.

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May 26, 2018, 08:08:30 PM
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There seem to be entire families involved in the bounty thing and networks of "friends" on top of that.  I envision huge rooms full of young people sitting at laptops, shitposting away for probably 8 hours at a clip--and NOT using just one bitcointalk account to do so, but many accounts.  Do I have proof of this?  Not exactly, but there has been some evidence of it based on ban appeals and PMs when they get caught enrolling alts in bounties.  It's a suspicion that's not without reason.

With multiple people and multiple accounts for each person, these turds can make a pretty good living in their countries.  That's why they do it, because it's lucrative and doesn't require them to bust their asses in a factory or whatever.  I certainly can understand why it's being done, but I still condemn the behavior.

I also envision that they have a moderator there like in a call center industry business you have a certain things to say on a customer to attract him/her for choosing their life insurance plan as it was good as being comfort about oneself death. Like hell you're gonna believe that.

And the thing is the moderator job is for checking applicants shitpost not to look like shitpost in general before submitting it basically that how the community industry help each other.

IMHO real life work outdoor is much more interesting than posting a bunch of lousy content that no one can barely apprehend.
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May 26, 2018, 08:48:13 PM
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Now a days the level of spamming in bitcointalk thread has increased. I am newbee and a solid fan of this network. Many people participating with numerous alt account in various campaign. Playing signature and degrading the quality of this forum day bt day. Participating in campaign is not a crime but when one man participating with 10 twitter 10 Facebook and 10 btc, it should be a crime.

I urge the senior member to make a move for this problems. Thats why I have chosen this username. But what will be the way if I find multi alt accounts. Is there any way to inform in efficient way?

Should I pm the moderator with proof?

Alt account really trouble here when they does do the multiple accounts on the campaign and scam the campaign manager. If you see any of the person having alt account and trying to chep you could write a pm to the manager about it.
If that is valid you can write about it on the reputation section about it.
Hope DT will check and tag it, if you have the valid proof with you...

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Now a days the level of spamming in bitcointalk thread has increased. I am newbee and a solid fan of this network. Many people participating with numerous alt account in various campaign.
It's seems that you have a high ranking alt accounts, if you really wanna help this forum why create another. Why bother? there is a merit system implemented already to minimize it. Besides there are already assigned modz to monitor the mega threads.

Playing signature and degrading the quality of this forum day bt day. Participating in campaign is not a crime but when one man participating with 10 twitter 10 Facebook and 10 btc, it should be a crime.
I urge the senior member to make a move for this problems. That's why I have chosen this username. But what will be the way if I find multi alt accounts. Is there any way to inform in efficient way?

Should I pm the moderator with proof?
If your really have the proof then send it to them.

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In my opinion, if someone is doing  10 and more bounty programme, then their account may tag as the shit/spam poster and they will not get any merit to upgrade their membership. So this is one type of punishment to those members. I think it is fair enough.

It is your choice, what you want to become - serious member or bounty hunter only.

So do the quality work and don't bother about them(bounty hunter).

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May 28, 2018, 08:38:30 PM
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In my opinion, if someone is doing  10 and more bounty programme, then their account may tag as the shit/spam poster and they will not get any merit to upgrade their membership. So this is one type of punishment to those members. I think it is fair enough.

It is your choice, what you want to become - serious member or bounty hunter only.

So do the quality work and don't bother about them(bounty hunter).

GOOD LUCK...

They are just wanted to utilize this forum to earn money , they really dont care if there acount is leveled up or not. They dont need merits or something like that. they just participated in RAW multiple campaign . In this process the environment of this forum is hampered . Thats all i am trying to say.
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May 28, 2018, 08:46:49 PM
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I can't imagine a person who is able to enter and do work every day with 10 accounts in fb, tw or signature campaign. What the reason for it? If you can take 10 different bounties with 1 acc instead of take 1 bounty on 10 accounts Huh
There seem to be entire families involved in the bounty thing and networks of "friends" on top of that.  I envision huge rooms full of young people sitting at laptops, shitposting away for probably 8 hours at a clip--and NOT using just one bitcointalk account to do so, but many accounts.  Do I have proof of this?  Not exactly, but there has been some evidence of it based on ban appeals and PMs when they get caught enrolling alts in bounties.  It's a suspicion that's not without reason.

With multiple people and multiple accounts for each person, these turds can make a pretty good living in their countries.  That's why they do it, because it's lucrative and doesn't require them to bust their asses in a factory or whatever.  I certainly can understand why it's being done, but I still condemn the behavior.


Sir i follow your steps in every moments , in real scenario you actually perform as a BTC raiders. You just caught number of alt accounts. But i have tried to post against a certain groups , the members were higher than my level. There they blackmail me to give negative trust and so on. Thats why i have created this account to catch such activity. As a newbie nobody will believe me , i know. Thats why you guys are here to help me.
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May 28, 2018, 09:01:06 PM
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There they blackmail me to give negative trust and so on. Thats why i have created this account to catch such activity.
I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to--do you have any details about this blackmailing, or did I miss a thread or something?  I'm not challenging you; I'm genuinely asking if you have any evidence.

I applaud anyone who chases these fuckers, and I don't care if it's an alt account that's doing so.  If you have any solid proof of alt accounts abusing campaigns or scamming, you can post it in the "known alts" thread if you didn't know already.  You can also send me a PM with the info and I can look into it, but only if you have solid proof.  I don't have a lot of time to spend on investigations for the foreseeable future.  Other DT members might be able to help you as well, and if you think you've nailed someone, don't be afraid to leave a neg yourself.

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