How to stick a middle finger at NSA and GCHQ for spying on us?

[Kenshin]

I think one of the biggest things is to talk with others about it.  The average person is fairly clueless as to how broad and intrusive the NSA spying has become.  Most people I've talked to about it just say "oh I have nothing to hide."  Neither do I, but I think everyone deserves privacy, and also everyone deserves to have their constitutional rights kept in tact.

I'd also recommend writing a letter (yes a real letter) to your local congressman/woman.  Only if the majority of citizens start to stand up to the NSA will things start to change.  Obama has not called for an end to anything, only playing word games in his speeches about how the data should be maintained.

I have nothing to hide either. But those people need to understand. If they don't mind others snooping around on their pc or telephone. They can stop using anti-virus, get rid of their firewall. And might as well share their hard disk to the internet, 

[jcoin200]

Exactly, the next time someone tells you they have nothing to hide just ask them if they would be comfortable giving their email password out to random strangers. Clearly no-one would want to do that. So even if you have nothing to hide, most everyone still values some level of privacy.

[Kenshin]

Exactly, the next time someone tells you they have nothing to hide just ask them if they would be comfortable giving their email password out to random strangers. Clearly no-one would want to do that. So even if you have nothing to hide, most everyone still values some level of privacy.

Also the same people should have their web cam or internet camera streaming live on the internet, without any password. So everyone can watch them all the time, such as when they are sleeping, getting dress, shagging, and everything. 

[practicaldreamer]

 But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

   

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
  So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore 

[Kenshin]

 But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

   

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
  So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore 

How do I use the HTML5 player?

[Kenshin]

I just found it. You need to go to this link https://www.youtube.com/html5

Then select HTML5 player as default.

Cool, thanks for letting us know. 

[Nik1ab]

 But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

   

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
  So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore 

You are not that smart, are you?

[practicaldreamer]

 But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

    

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
  So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore  

You are not that smart, are you?

Sorry - you've lost me - are you suggesting that the HTML5 video can give out my ip address over TOR ? I can't find evidence for that. Or have I misunderstood ?
   Thanks in advance for your help troll.

[Kenshin]

 But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

    

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
  So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore  

You are not that smart, are you?

Sorry - you've lost me - are you suggesting that the HTML5 video can give out my ip address over TOR ? I can't find evidence for that. Or have I misunderstood ?
   Thanks in advance for your help troll.

I only read the page one of this article http://www.cio.com/article/735373/How_to_Ensure_Privacy_in_the_Age_of_HTML5

But it has all the privacy risks of Flash. I haven't read pages 2 - 5. So sorry if I am wrong.

[practicaldreamer]

I read the article but it doesn't catergorically state that HTML5 video represents a risk of loss of anonymity watching videos via Youtube over TOR.

I googled "HTML5 video and Tor anonymity" and it seems from the results I read that, being open source, HTML5 video over Tor should be fine - indeed it is recommended on the Tor Projects homepage for viewing video. Its the plugins that present a risk (such as flash).

I'm no expert in this area but it seems OK to me.

Can anyone clarify any further ?

[Kenshin]

I read the article but it doesn't catergorically state that HTML5 video represents a risk of loss of anonymity watching videos via Youtube over TOR.

I googled "HTML5 video and Tor anonymity" and it seems from the results I read that, being open source, HTML5 video over Tor should be fine - indeed it is recommended on the Tor Projects homepage for viewing video. Its the plugins that present a risk (such as flash).

I'm no expert in this area but it seems OK to me.

Can anyone clarify any further ?

In that case, I think you are right. Just that the camera and other hardware can be activated is what I am concerned about. But if you use tor, and don't enable javascript in theory, you should be protect by the onion network. Because youtube only see you are one of the IP of tor.

[Nik1ab]

 But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

    

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
  So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore  

You are not that smart, are you?

Sorry - you've lost me - are you suggesting that the HTML5 video can give out my ip address over TOR ? I can't find evidence for that. Or have I misunderstood ?
   Thanks in advance for your help troll.

Do you really think I'm going to answer your question when you call me a troll? And btw: Only stupid people insult others when they try to tell them a mistake.

[practicaldreamer]

 But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

    

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
  So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore  

You are not that smart, are you?

Sorry - you've lost me - are you suggesting that the HTML5 video can give out my ip address over TOR ? I can't find evidence for that. Or have I misunderstood ?
   Thanks in advance for your help troll.

Do you really think I'm going to answer your question when you call me a troll? And btw: Only stupid people insult others when they try to tell them a mistake.

You aren't bringing anything to the table Nik1ab - I mean, I'm sure you are a genius and everything - but tbh 265 of your 280 posts seem to be dull one liners coming from someone who is 1) smug    2) bored        and 3) not a genius.

   You told me to shut up and keep quiet first - and then you told me that I wasn't very clever.
Now I appreciate that there may be subtle cultural nuances that are completely flying over my head here - but to be honest, where I come from, you are looking very much like a troll 

[Kenshin]

 But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

    

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
  So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore  

You are not that smart, are you?

Sorry - you've lost me - are you suggesting that the HTML5 video can give out my ip address over TOR ? I can't find evidence for that. Or have I misunderstood ?
   Thanks in advance for your help troll.

Do you really think I'm going to answer your question when you call me a troll? And btw: Only stupid people insult others when they try to tell them a mistake.

You aren't bringing anything to the table Nik1ab - I mean, I'm sure you are a genius and everything - but tbh 265 of your 280 posts seem to be dull one liners coming from someone who is 1) smug    2) bored        and 3) not a genius.

   You told me to shut up and keep quiet first - and then you told me that I wasn't very clever.
Now I appreciate that there may be subtle cultural nuances that are completely flying over my head here - but to be honest, where I come from, you are looking very much like a troll 

First of all, I like to say that, you didn't need to call him a troll. This is a your perspective, so that you were wrong. But I have to say in my perspective. I think he started it. 

Let ignore message which is not in topic. 

[Nik1ab]

Back to the topic: Using google is stupid. If you noticed the big NSA scandal you should know that.

[Alphi]

encrypt everything you do that is sensitive and don't say stupid things in public forums..

it really is that simple..

of course you could buy a pair of socks with BTC send them to an abandoned location and put silly labels like "Polonium 210" and "Anthrax" in the public message portion of the transaction...


but I wouldn't advocate anyone actually go ahead and do that.  I WAS JUST JOKING NSA et al IF YOU ARE READING THIS;D


EDIT.. oh wait did I just say a stupid thing in a public forum.... Doh........

[farlack]

I have been thinking, I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and so on.

And start using more Chinese brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Asus, Acer, and other Japanese and Korean brands.

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail. And start using more startpage.com and other email providers which are not in the US.

Any other ideas?

Great idea for us Americas!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets crush our economy and help Asia.

Stick it to the man!111111111111111111111
...

[Kenshin]

I have been thinking, I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and so on.

And start using more Chinese brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Asus, Acer, and other Japanese and Korean brands.

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail. And start using more startpage.com and other email providers which are not in the US.

Any other ideas?

Great idea for us Americas!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets crush our economy and help Asia.

Stick it to the man!111111111111111111111
...

But I think for the American companies which betrayed our trust. This is a small price to pay.

[farlack]

I have been thinking, I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and so on.

And start using more Chinese brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Asus, Acer, and other Japanese and Korean brands.

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail. And start using more startpage.com and other email providers which are not in the US.

Any other ideas?

Great idea for us Americas!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets crush our economy and help Asia.

Stick it to the man!111111111111111111111
...

But I think for the American companies which betrayed our trust. This is a small price to pay.

Yeah, you're right, lets just lose millions of high paying jobs here in America, to stick it to the man, millions of families should let their kids go hungry, and live on the streets.. Just to stick it to the man, but its a small price to pay... Just so China can hire more people to work for $0.40 cents a day.

[Kenshin]

I have been thinking, I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and so on.

And start using more Chinese brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Asus, Acer, and other Japanese and Korean brands.

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail. And start using more startpage.com and other email providers which are not in the US.

Any other ideas?

Great idea for us Americas!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets crush our economy and help Asia.

Stick it to the man!111111111111111111111
...

But I think for the American companies which betrayed our trust. This is a small price to pay.

Yeah, you're right, lets just lose millions of high paying jobs here in America, to stick it to the man, millions of families should let their kids go hungry, and live on the streets.. Just to stick it to the man, but its a small price to pay... Just so China can hire more people to work for $0.40 cents a day.

But all the manufacturing of electrical components are in China anyway. No matter if the brand is American or Asian. So there is no difference anyway.