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January 27, 2014, 04:40:50 AM
Last edit: January 27, 2014, 04:03:01 PM by malevolent
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apparently time is a "delusion" cause we are not all operating on Atomic Time.  please fix!!

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January 27, 2014, 04:44:34 AM
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In before the shitstorm....

EDIT: Seems that you've broadcasted the spending transaction before you received the BTC.

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January 27, 2014, 04:47:21 AM
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EDIT: Seems that you've broadcasted the spending transaction before you received the BTC.
I've seen that before, but usually for a shorter time span, I think.  But as long as it balances...
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January 27, 2014, 04:49:50 AM
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Perhaps blockchain.info's cataloging methods are simply imperfect.

It all balances out though, no double spends, no free btc.

Somebody with a working version of armory mind checking the address?
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January 27, 2014, 05:03:33 AM
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Looking at the timestamp the coins were recived before they were sent to another address. The order blockchain.info is showing thoses ttransacions is back-to-front.

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January 27, 2014, 05:08:35 AM
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It's showing in the same block though. 

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January 27, 2014, 05:14:12 AM
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Looking at the timestamp the coins were recived before they were sent to another address. The order blockchain.info is showing thoses ttransacions is back-to-front.

Either way, something is wrong. If you read it from top-to-bottom, the 3rd tx from the top should have resulted in a negative balance. If you read it bottom-to-top, then the 2nd TX from the top should have resulted in a negative balance.

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January 27, 2014, 05:14:52 AM
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Looking at the timestamp the coins were recived before they were sent to another address. The order blockchain.info is showing thoses ttransacions is back-to-front.

Either way, something is wrong. If you read it from top-to-bottom, the 3rd tx from the top should have resulted in a negative balance. If you read it bottom-to-top, then the 2nd TX from the top should have resulted in a negative balance.

Just noticed this. How would this happen?
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January 27, 2014, 05:19:18 AM
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Wow, that's pretty catastrophic. What's next, 1+1 = 3?

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January 27, 2014, 05:22:41 AM
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Looking at the timestamp the coins were recived before they were sent to another address. The order blockchain.info is showing thoses ttransacions is back-to-front.

Either way, something is wrong. If you read it from top-to-bottom, the 3rd tx from the top should have resulted in a negative balance. If you read it bottom-to-top, then the 2nd TX from the top should have resulted in a negative balance.

Look at the time of the transactions, not the order blockchain.info is showing them in.

This is a problem with blockchain.info not bitcoin. So no need to worry.

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January 27, 2014, 05:25:48 AM
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The 2nd transaction from the top was created and broadcast (at the time invalid) before the address received the balance, this is possible, stop spreading FUD.

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January 27, 2014, 05:26:18 AM
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http://blockr.io/address/info/19VAb9zAhpWLaWfEuqw9HXup2zaNoNPPyE shows something different.

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January 27, 2014, 06:19:11 AM
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Timestamps are informational and not depended upon by the protocol. The clock of the computer that broadcast the spend from that address is a little ahead of the clock of the computer that spent into it. The same thing happens with block timestamps; blocks are often timestamped before the blocks they are built on. It is of no consequence. Nice thread title, lol.
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January 27, 2014, 07:04:59 AM
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Looking at the timestamp the coins were recived before they were sent to another address. The order blockchain.info is showing thoses ttransacions is back-to-front.

Either way, something is wrong. If you read it from top-to-bottom, the 3rd tx from the top should have resulted in a negative balance. If you read it bottom-to-top, then the 2nd TX from the top should have resulted in a negative balance.

Look at the time of the transactions, not the order blockchain.info is showing them in.

This is a problem with blockchain.info not bitcoin. So no need to worry.

Yes, you're probably right, esp. because blockr.io is showing something different. Didn't notice the timestamps. However, just to dig a bit deeper, maybe there isn't something wrong with the protocol, but perhaps there is something wrong (or at least, unintuitive) with the client?

Blockchain.info probably runs some Bitcoind variant, right?
Maybe bitcoind listtransactions command is causing the transactions to get listed out of order?

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January 27, 2014, 08:25:49 AM
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Looking at the timestamp the coins were recived before they were sent to another address. The order blockchain.info is showing thoses ttransacions is back-to-front.

Either way, something is wrong. If you read it from top-to-bottom, the 3rd tx from the top should have resulted in a negative balance. If you read it bottom-to-top, then the 2nd TX from the top should have resulted in a negative balance.

Look at the time of the transactions, not the order blockchain.info is showing them in.

This is a problem with blockchain.info not bitcoin. So no need to worry.

Unless you have tens of thousands in blockchain wallets?

I guess that explains why a handful of bitcoiners stated to me privately that they're no longer using blockchain.info wallets. This sucks, for I'm getting InstaWallet flashbacks of which, luckily, is in the process of being resolved... but not again!
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January 27, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
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January 27, 2014, 03:04:33 PM
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Wow, that's pretty catastrophic. What's next, 1+1 = 3?

I doubt it is catastrophic, every user has bit different time on his computer, so unavoidable to happen. All you need to do is use different way to showing transactions, not based on time only but in what order these transaction can happen as well

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January 27, 2014, 03:57:08 PM
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Wow, that's pretty catastrophic. What's next, 1+1 = 3?

I don't really get that.
The tx time is wrong, and the transactions are arranged according to the faulty timestamp.
What is catastrophic here?
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