Will they or won't they...

[Carlton Banks]

Is bitcoin banned in China, Thailand, Russia, USA or Argentina? Who knows?  

Can you move your money out of the bank at HSBC? From Mt. Gox? At Chase bank? At Lloyds? In China? Probably!  


There's a lot of systemic failures and cryptocurrency bans, followed by retractions and wind-back announcements of the exact same events.

What's the big idea here, maybe get everyone used to not knowing whether the financial system is working on a given day, then one time it just stays broken for a few days... then for the following week...

Will bitcoin get banned, unbanned, then slightly less banned (mumbled from behind someones hands...), then finally perma-banned? And yet simultaneously, the only money system that's still functional? Is this the death throes, or just the best way of letting everyone know that financial system 1.0 is dead (i.e. not announcing it per se, just sort of demonstrating it...)

[proudhon]

Is bitcoin banned in China, Thailand, Russia, USA or Argentina? Who knows?  

Can you move your money out of the bank at HSBC? From Mt. Gox? At Chase bank? At Lloyds? In China? Probably!  


There's a lot of systemic failures and cryptocurrency bans, followed by retractions and wind-back announcements of the exact same events.

What's the big idea here, maybe get everyone used to not knowing whether the financial system is working on a given day, then one time it just stays broken for a few days... then for the following week...

Will bitcoin get banned, unbanned, then slightly less banned (mumbled from behind someones hands...), then finally perma-banned? And yet simultaneously, the only money system that's still functional? Is this the death throes, or just the best way of letting everyone know that financial system 1.0 is dead (i.e. not announcing it per se, just sort of demonstrating it...)

We have already confirmed it's banned.

[ElectricMucus]

Is bitcoin banned in China, Thailand, Russia, USA or Argentina? Who knows?  

Can you move your money out of the bank at HSBC? From Mt. Gox? At Chase bank? At Lloyds? In China? Probably!  


There's a lot of systemic failures and cryptocurrency bans, followed by retractions and wind-back announcements of the exact same events.

What's the big idea here, maybe get everyone used to not knowing whether the financial system is working on a given day, then one time it just stays broken for a few days... then for the following week...

Will bitcoin get banned, unbanned, then slightly less banned (mumbled from behind someones hands...), then finally perma-banned? And yet simultaneously, the only money system that's still functional? Is this the death throes, or just the best way of letting everyone know that financial system 1.0 is dead (i.e. not announcing it per se, just sort of demonstrating it...)

USI

[keithers]

Is bitcoin banned in China, Thailand, Russia, USA or Argentina? Who knows?  

Can you move your money out of the bank at HSBC? From Mt. Gox? At Chase bank? At Lloyds? In China? Probably!  


There's a lot of systemic failures and cryptocurrency bans, followed by retractions and wind-back announcements of the exact same events.

What's the big idea here, maybe get everyone used to not knowing whether the financial system is working on a given day, then one time it just stays broken for a few days... then for the following week...

Will bitcoin get banned, unbanned, then slightly less banned (mumbled from behind someones hands...), then finally perma-banned? And yet simultaneously, the only money system that's still functional? Is this the death throes, or just the best way of letting everyone know that financial system 1.0 is dead (i.e. not announcing it per se, just sort of demonstrating it...)

Hey Carlton Banks, your father Phillip Banks died recently...that sucks!   Can you still do the Carlton dance?  haha

[Carlton Banks]

We have already confirmed it's banned.

What, everything? (everywhere?)

[knightcoin]

We have already confirmed it's banned.

What, everything? (everywhere?)

when bitcoin will be banned from Latin America ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2KgzKETBw

[Carlton Banks]

Funny how when I make a thread to try and cut through the uber-FUD real life soap opera, all the uber-Troll clowns arrive in the thread! How strange!

[humanitee]

Funny how when I make a thread to try and cut through the uber-FUD real life soap opera, all the uber-Troll clowns arrive in the thread! How strange!

That's all this forum is, sadly.

[gentlemand]

There should be a fudster rating alongside the trust one. Once you've reached terminal fudness then you're automatically sent to a gated forum where they can shriek at each other and leave relatively balanced people in peace.

[dropt]

There should be a fudster rating alongside the trust one. Once you've reached terminal fudness then you're automatically sent to a gated forum where they can shriek at each other and leave relatively balanced people in peace.

I'd vote for this.

[Carlton Banks]

There should be a fudster rating alongside the trust one. Once you've reached terminal fudness then you're automatically sent to a gated forum where they can shriek at each other and leave relatively balanced people in peace.

I'd vote for this.

It'd work really well together with the proof of sacrifice ID's. Everyone registering an account would have to sacrifice a little BTC as transaction fees, in exchange for an ID string stored on the blockchain. If the FUD/troll kings turned out to be BTC rich, the account price would go up for all. It's probably the only way we can ensure some quality of debate around here.

[Peter R]

There should be a fudster rating alongside the trust one. Once you've reached terminal fudness then you're automatically sent to a gated forum where they can shriek at each other and leave relatively balanced people in peace.

I'd vote for this.

It'd work really well together with the proof of sacrifice ID's. Everyone registering an account would have to sacrifice a little BTC as transaction fees, in exchange for an ID string stored on the blockchain. If the FUD/troll kings turned out to be BTC rich, the account price would go up for all. It's probably the only way we can ensure some quality of debate around here.

Jeff Garzik was working on the "proof-of-sacrifice" ID concept, and I think these IDs would be very useful.  It seems fitting that bitcointalk.org be the first to put them to use in order to improve the SNR around here.  (Proudhon's "Confirmed Bad News" parody thread not included, of course  )

[Carlton Banks]

There should be a fudster rating alongside the trust one. Once you've reached terminal fudness then you're automatically sent to a gated forum where they can shriek at each other and leave relatively balanced people in peace.

I'd vote for this.

It'd work really well together with the proof of sacrifice ID's. Everyone registering an account would have to sacrifice a little BTC as transaction fees, in exchange for an ID string stored on the blockchain. If the FUD/troll kings turned out to be BTC rich, the account price would go up for all. It's probably the only way we can ensure some quality of debate around here.

Jeff Garzik was working on the "proof-of-sacrifice" ID concept, and I think these IDs would be very useful.  It seems fitting that bitcointalk.org be the first to put them to use in order to improve the SNR around here.  (Proudhon's "Confirmed Bad News" parody thread not included, of course  )

The best cure would be bitcoin becoming officially no-longer controversial. That may take a while.

Expensive registration to this forum would probably get rid of the incessant FUD masters, but it would also encourage a form of more subtle trolling. The current breed are mostly going for the instantaneous maximum effect technique, sometimes too blatantly (and too relentlessly, though some people do take the bait). But it's not unknown to cultivate a trolling style where everyone believes the poster is sincere and trustworthy, but still manages to steer people into a certain train of thought. This is more expensive though, as it needs a majority of posting dedicated to giving the appearance of being genuine, otherwise the trust capital wouldn't exist such that they can lead people astray more subtly.

Not trying to be totally pessimistic, a better class of troll that isn't so shouty would still be less tiring, and also more interesting to watch at work. I never use the ignore feature, it's always interesting to see what these professional sociopaths come up with next.

[Holliday]

The best cure would be bitcoin becoming officially no-longer controversial. That may take a while.

Expensive registration to this forum would probably get rid of the incessant FUD masters, but it would also encourage a form of more subtle trolling. The current breed are mostly going for the instantaneous maximum effect technique, sometimes too blatantly (and too relentlessly, though some people do take the bait). But it's not unknown to cultivate a trolling style where everyone believes the poster is sincere and trustworthy, but still manages to steer people into a certain train of thought. This is more expensive though, as it needs a majority of posting dedicated to giving the appearance of being genuine, otherwise the trust capital wouldn't exist such that they can lead people astray more subtly.

Not trying to be totally pessimistic, a better class of troll that isn't so shouty would still be less tiring, and also more interesting to watch at work. I never use the ignore feature, it's always interesting to see what these professional sociopaths come up with next.

Your post reminds me of the good ol' days with posters like "s" and "unk".

[Carlton Banks]

Your post reminds me of the good ol' days with posters like "s" and "unk".

Must be before my time (or the joke is over my head...)


Back on topic (although not so far from where we ended up), how do we stop entire nation states from trolling the bitcoin price? It seems like the establishment media and the main player governments are all using every opportunity they get to heap as much bad news into one period of time as possible. I think it can be looked at positively if you think carefully. Why go to all the effort of saving up bad headlines for when they will have maximum impact? Is this what it sounds like when a lot of powerful people want to buy digital tulips?

[Dhuum]

Bears attack!

[Holliday]

Your post reminds me of the good ol' days with posters like "s" and "unk".

Must be before my time (or the joke is over my head...)

They were posters like you described.

Not these:

The current breed are mostly going for the instantaneous maximum effect technique, sometimes too blatantly (and too relentlessly, though some people do take the bait).

The other kind.

[Carlton Banks]

The other kind.

Ah, the stealth trolls. It's quite interesting to see them at work, IMO, it's pretty artful. These steam roller guys are pretty boring to be fair

[piramida]

Ah, the stealth trolls.

Trying to imagine a "stealth troll"... Don't think these two words go together well Only a dead troll can be a stealth troll.

On-topic, I don't think countries consider the impact on the price their announcements would make. I also don't think they want to buy in. Just more of the same - "see something you can't control, squish it" tactics.

[Bitbuy]

Ah, the stealth trolls.

Trying to imagine a "stealth troll"... Don't think these two words go together well Only a dead troll can be a stealth troll.

On-topic, I don't think countries consider the impact on the price their announcements would make. I also don't think they want to buy in. Just more of the same - "see something you can't control, squish it" tactics.

Indeed. It could go fast though; if one of the more important players take a stand, the rest could follow (domino effect). This could go both ways though...

Oh and piramida, couldn't help myself :