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January 28, 2014, 04:00:01 AM
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This is the second time that I am exchanging BTC to Paypal using the website, I have previously bought 2 items using the website and both arrived, I have also exchanged BTC to Paypal and received the payment.

My last exchange was larger than usual and the support has simply disappeared and hasn't answered any email the last 3 days.

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January 28, 2014, 04:03:08 AM
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Trading irreversible forms of money for reversible forms of money is always going to end badly. I'm sorry that you had to learn the hard way.

If you aren't the sole controller of your private keys, you don't have any bitcoins.
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January 28, 2014, 04:35:22 AM
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trading Bitcoin for Paypal? Why?

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January 28, 2014, 04:36:46 AM
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Trading irreversible forms of money for reversible forms of money is always going to end badly. I'm sorry that you had to learn the hard way.

You're right, should've holded onto the BTC like the rest of the speculators.

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January 28, 2014, 04:41:09 AM
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Trading irreversible forms of money for reversible forms of money is always going to end badly. I'm sorry that you had to learn the hard way.

You're right, should've holded onto the BTC like the rest of the speculators.

You could have used something like localbitcoins.com and traded them directly for cash.

If you aren't the sole controller of your private keys, you don't have any bitcoins.
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January 28, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
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all4btc are 3-4 german guys that dont know anything about doing business.

They had those troubles not only once.
Dont worry they will fill your order  - it just gonna take a lot of time. Because they run out of money sometimes. (euro - btc exchange).

I have their full names and  may give you that via PN if you feel scammed or get really scammed. (had the same trouble some months ago but they finalized my order)



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January 28, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
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all4btc are 3-4 german guys that dont know anything about doing business.

They had those troubles not only once.
Dont worry they will fill your order  - it just gonna take a lot of time. Because they run out of money sometimes. (euro - btc exchange).

I have their full names and  may give you that via PN if you feel scammed or get really scammed. (had the same trouble some months ago but they finalized my order)



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Yes I know their names already as well as other various information, I figured they might take long but it would only seem logical to at least notify me of delays.

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January 29, 2014, 12:43:29 PM
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I had brief contact with those guys. They do not seem to be scammers, just very incompetent and unserious people. Avoid at all cost.

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February 13, 2014, 10:31:09 PM
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I had my first experience with these guys a little while back and posted some about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226891.msg4988871#msg4988871

I would sooner boil my bits in vinegar before I use them again, they are possibly the worst possible payment processors, avoid at all costs.

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March 23, 2014, 02:32:01 AM
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Just to clear things out they are in fact not scammers, we had a huge misunderstanding Smiley

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March 25, 2014, 10:55:51 AM
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I didn't use All4btc
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April 07, 2014, 02:21:13 PM
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Just to clear things out they are in fact not scammers, we had a huge misunderstanding Smiley

Thanks for clearing this up!

This is Philip from All4Btc and I have emailed/messaged the people here who reported a poor experience with us. Those who responded already had their issues taken care of and I just want to make sure that everybody else has received their products or refunds.

We have worked hard to redesign all4btc with customer service built-in from the ground up and we hope to have many many more happy customers.

If anybody still has any questions or comments, please feel free to email us at support@all4btc.com

https://all4btc.com
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