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January 28, 2014, 08:56:01 PM
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I think we need to simplify it for the regulators, not make it more complicated (with discussion around colored coins).  Or else these regulations will take forever to draft/approve/publish and be overly complicated to follow and comply with.

Also I'm not sure that Panel 2 has the right mix of folks to be commenting on how bitcoins should be classified (commodity, currency, etc.), nor taxed/treated at the State level.

The problem for the regulators is that you can't dumb Bitcoin down. It is a complex system. You would be doing them a disservice by making it out to be simpler than it is. There are no sufficient analogies for cryptocurrencies - the sooner they wake up to that fact the better.

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January 28, 2014, 08:57:01 PM
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I think most of the "unbanked" can get off there ass and visit a (soon at a corner shop near you) bitcoin ATM no?

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January 28, 2014, 08:57:50 PM
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Facepalm - she used "lightyears" as a unit of time.   Roll Eyes

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January 28, 2014, 08:58:21 PM
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Bingo. That girl on the left keeps nailing it.

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January 28, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
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bummer they missed the chance to talk about 3rd world development with  "underbanked"  ....
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January 28, 2014, 08:59:34 PM
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The "QR kid" reference-cool.
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January 28, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
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The "QR kid" reference-cool.

Charlie's really getting into this. You tell 'em Charlie!

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January 28, 2014, 09:06:00 PM
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Charles Lee is a software developer who used to work at Google. Now, he works at Coinbase. He invented Litecoin. He is of Korean descent, not Chinese. Bobby Lee has a brother named Charlie Lee. Charles Lee, of Coinbase and Litecoin, is NOT Charlie Lee, brother to Bobby Lee of China exchange.

They probably look the same to ignorant white people; however, us more civilized folks can tell the difference.

Isn't the guy at the hearing the same guy as in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le5ByHtssnc&t=20m18s

He admits being the brother of Bobby Lee. WTF?


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January 28, 2014, 09:09:19 PM
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One of the more fascinating aspects of this panel is the fact that they are trying to understand things that most of us consider the basics. We really are early adopters, every one of us.

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January 28, 2014, 09:10:54 PM
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I think we need to simplify it for the regulators, not make it more complicated (with discussion around colored coins).  Or else these regulations will take forever to draft/approve/publish and be overly complicated to follow and comply with.

Also I'm not sure that Panel 2 has the right mix of folks to be commenting on how bitcoins should be classified (commodity, currency, etc.), nor taxed/treated at the State level.

The problem for the regulators is that you can't dumb Bitcoin down. It is a complex system. You would be doing them a disservice by making it out to be simpler than it is. There are no sufficient analogies for cryptocurrencies - the sooner they wake up to that fact the better.

I don't disagree with you that bitcoin has complexity to it under the hood.  But on the surface, it has a sort of simplicity once you understand the 5-6 core attributes.  From a regulation standpoint, however, the first panel was very concerned about the speed at which regulators can publish useful guidelines and proper compliance regulations, and how easy (or difficult) and cost effective it will be to adhere to those regulations.  Too much cumbersome or expensive US regulation, and you stifle (or complete stop) the ability for small bitcoin developers and businesses to be able to adopt and move forward.
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January 28, 2014, 09:11:45 PM
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Charles Lee is a software developer who used to work at Google. Now, he works at Coinbase. He invented Litecoin. He is of Korean descent, not Chinese. Bobby Lee has a brother named Charlie Lee. Charles Lee, of Coinbase and Litecoin, is NOT Charlie Lee, brother to Bobby Lee of China exchange.

They probably look the same to ignorant white people; however, us more civilized folks can tell the difference.

Google yields about the same results for Charlie or Charles Lee inventing Litecoin. The problem is because the Charlie is a nickname for Charles. I'm still confused. Probably need pics and bullet point of the difference.  Cheesy

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January 28, 2014, 09:13:09 PM
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He must be trolling us. That guy at the hearing is the brother of the BTCChina CEO, not Korean.


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January 28, 2014, 09:14:13 PM
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Charles Lee is a software developer who used to work at Google. Now, he works at Coinbase. He invented Litecoin. He is of Korean descent, not Chinese. Bobby Lee has a brother named Charlie Lee. Charles Lee, of Coinbase and Litecoin, is NOT Charlie Lee, brother to Bobby Lee of China exchange.

They probably look the same to ignorant white people; however, us more civilized folks can tell the difference.

Isn't the guy at the hearing the same guy as in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le5ByHtssnc&t=20m18s

He admits being the brother of Bobby Lee. WTF?

I think he was being facetious.
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January 28, 2014, 09:14:36 PM
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He must be trolling us. That guy at the hearing is the brother of the BTCChina CEO, not Korean.

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January 28, 2014, 09:17:39 PM
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Got me good!  Grin Thank goodness I figured this out before selling my BTC!  Tongue

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January 28, 2014, 09:20:12 PM
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One of the more fascinating aspects of this panel is the fact that they are trying to understand things that most of us consider the basics. We really are early adopters, every one of us.

had a conversation a few weeks ago at a party with someone who kept calling it "bidcoin".

At least they got the name correct.....
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January 28, 2014, 09:21:37 PM
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i was actually expecting the guy to suddenly go like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ggGGGqu_k
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January 28, 2014, 09:23:30 PM
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Good lord, the media spin already... sheesh that was fast   Wink

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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR BANKS?!
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