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January 28, 2014, 10:42:01 PM
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Hello

I am not sure if I understand this whole thing yet.

But... Only miners add to the block chain, they do this for reward if they solve the puzzle first.

People that install wallets and trade in coin do it without adding their computing power, and get no rewards?

I would like for everyone to be a miner (only my miners get nothing)
That is why I would like the wallet and basic functions of the miner program joined.

I am opening a pizza shop and I would like to give away coin in many different ways.
If you want my coin you must install my wallet.
If you install my wallet you become.... a miner....

This would make the difficulty "easy"

I guess I would have to create all coins at the start?

Can anyone help me set this up??

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January 28, 2014, 11:19:20 PM
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If I understand correctly, you can directly mine using the qt wallet using -gen.
But it is not efficient at all, and you can get way better results with a miner software.
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January 28, 2014, 11:46:38 PM
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Do you mean results, like earn coin?

I did not know you could mine using the qt wallet.

I don't want to earn coin, and I don't want anyone else
to earn coins by mining. I don't know if I even need miners?

I would set the difficulty very low and award ZERO coin for hashing
or finding the answer. Is this possible?



Imagine all my coins are already created, no miners needed (except for computing power).
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January 28, 2014, 11:58:55 PM
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If I understand correctly, you can directly mine using the qt wallet using -gen.

yes, but this "option" ... can not be used with graphic card or asic miner.
i request, too, this feature ... because i alternate solo mining and pool mining.

i only want 1 software for solo-mining that it can understand asic, gpu or cpu mining strategy.

after all, mining is a "big" part of the fludity of the bitcoin network.
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January 29, 2014, 12:13:11 AM
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OK, so everyone that installs the qt wallet is a miner that uses cpu only.

So, as long as there are at least a few computers (or one) the hash can be solved
and transactions can be added to the block chain? Right?


I will give coin away because a customer installed a wallet, or because it is Friday,
or they bought a pizza, etc.....
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January 29, 2014, 12:18:03 AM
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no, the -gen attribute is optional ... and must be indicate in the shortcut (ex: in windows desktop) to activate the mining process.
1 big (very big) problem is that process is not in the gui and it is not configurable (100% of the CPU when activate).

the request can view like this :
- in the gui, add a checkbox that it enable "mining"
- in the gui, add a slider to configure "mining" power (like 1s in 10s for 10%)
- in the gui, add a slider to configure a pause after this cycle like 1-5-10-30s after mining 10s
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January 29, 2014, 01:12:34 AM
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i only want 1 software for solo-mining that it can understand asic, gpu or cpu mining strategy.

no, the -gen attribute is optional ... and must be indicate in the shortcut (ex: in windows desktop) to activate the mining process.
1 big (very big) problem is that process is not in the gui and it is not configurable (100% of the CPU when activate).

the request can view like this :
- in the gui, add a checkbox that it enable "mining"
- in the gui, add a slider to configure "mining" power (like 1s in 10s for 10%)
- in the gui, add a slider to configure a pause after this cycle like 1-5-10-30s after mining 10s

I guess the core devs won't add your suggested features at all.
After all, we have quite a number of miner software now, and they are all doing great.
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January 29, 2014, 01:57:23 AM
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I would have to find a programmer to add those changes to the gui.
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January 29, 2014, 02:06:03 AM
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no, the -gen attribute is optional ... and must be indicate in the shortcut (ex: in windows desktop) to activate the mining process.
1 big (very big) problem is that process is not in the gui and it is not configurable (100% of the CPU when activate).

the request can view like this :
- in the gui, add a checkbox that it enable "mining"
- in the gui, add a slider to configure "mining" power (like 1s in 10s for 10%)
- in the gui, add a slider to configure a pause after this cycle like 1-5-10-30s after mining 10s

Doesn't "setgenerate true X" in the console work? You can specify the number of threads working, which on a multi-core processor means it won't eat 100% CPU.

And didn't the QT wallet have the gui mining feature at some point of time, but it was dropped due to being pointless?

Also, what's your guarantee that the mining algorithm used in the wallet will be the best one available for your device?

Also, should we release an official wallet upgrade every time a new type of device for BTC mining is developed?

Also, why the hell would we bloat the QT client with 5 or so mining algos when there are applications which do it much better?

EDIT: just read your OP, and have a big "also" for you:

ALSO WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE BE WILLING TO USE A WALLET WHICH EATS RESOURCES AND GIVES NOTHING?

Are you trying to build a botnet or something? "There, install a wallet which eats all your CPU for a possibility of a free pizza!

- But I don't want to lag my comp...

- FREE PIZZA!

- But I don't feel safe with running software that forces me to...

- FREE PIZZA DUDE!

- But everybody's gonna just get the coins and turn off the wallet immediately, therefore nobody will contribute to your coin, therefore I won't even be able to spend my coins since no blocks will be fo...

- PIIIIIIIIIIIIZZZZAAAAAAAAAA!"

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If you want my coin you must install my wallet.
If you install my wallet you become.... a miner....

You should be writing creepypastas, not developing a coin.
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January 29, 2014, 02:23:05 AM
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Why the hell would you be so upset over a newbe's questions?

Anyway, all input is valuable. If you read the start of the post
I am using it as a bonus system in my pizza shop.
That is why in the hell..... To answer your screaming.

I don't want miners, because I will give coins away.
I don't want my customers to be tech geek gurus.

As my customer if you install a wallet, you will get coins, often! If you buy a pizza you will get coins, etc., etc..

I only want to know....

When one of my customers installs a wallet, can I have the wallet
perform the functions of a miner (maybe at a low level
like 15% cpu on and off.

So if it is 10 or 100 or 1000 customers the wallet will perform
the (i guess it is called hashing) and add the transaction to the chain.

Do you know the answer to that?

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January 29, 2014, 02:38:30 AM
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Why the hell would you be so upset over a newbe's questions?

Anyway, all input is valuable. If you read the start of the post
I am using it as a bonus system in my pizza shop.
That is why in the hell..... To answer your screaming.

I don't want miners, because I will give coins away.
I don't want my customers to be tech geek gurus.

As my customer if you install a wallet, you will get coins, often! If you buy a pizza you will get coins, etc., etc..

I only want to know....

When one of my customers installs a wallet, can I have the wallet
perform the functions of a miner (maybe at a low level
like 15% cpu on and off.

So if it is 10 or 100 or 1000 customers the wallet will perform
the (i guess it is called hashing) and add the transaction to the chain.

Do you know the answer to that?



First of all, you NEED miners to sustain your network. Every transaction you send must be confirmed by miners.

Of course, you can simply not use Proof of Work, premine everything and rely on transaction fees. That's fine, there's already a coin which did that, but they struggle hard to keep the network running, because - surprise! - not many people are interested in mining this coin, even though they get the transaction fees.

And yes, you can do that, but the effect is that nobody will be actually running your wallet except for the 1 or 2 minutes it takes to get an address. Why would I purposefully run an application which does nothing and eats my CPU all the time?

End result - your whole network is dead, and you can't even give away coins, because they don't get delivered to the intended recipent until a number of confirmations.

Simply imagine that you want to give away money for people who create bank accounts at a specific bank you own. It also so happens that you don't pay your bank tellers anything. Nobody works in your bank, and nobody gets money. You then try to tell the people who you're giving the coins to to work at your bank, but you can't really control what they're doing, so they spend all days playing video games and looking at 9GAG instead of processing payments.

You're completely clueless about how cryptocurrency works, and you're off to developing a coin. Well, I can only wish you good luck.
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January 29, 2014, 02:51:00 AM
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I don't need or want your advice because it is only to try and make the
next person small so you can look big.

I'll bet you are 19, tats and beat smaller people up on the weekends..
Steel money from your mom, sleep with your best friends girl and
have a felony on your record.

Go away because you are the clueless one!

I retract my previous statement about wishing you good luck.
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January 29, 2014, 04:29:31 AM
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So basically you want a currency that will be exclusively used in your pizza shop, with no miners or proof-of-work?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_card

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January 29, 2014, 04:47:38 AM
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Why answer if you are going to be ZERO help?

Need a life?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get a life
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