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June 01, 2018, 12:02:58 AM
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KYC is disturbing freedom of crypto investors. Many ICO should apply KYC. I think this kind of ICO will be left by cryptocurrency investors sooner or later
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June 01, 2018, 01:11:22 AM
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The problem I have with KYC in ICO is that a lot of these projects are scams. Lets use the recent Hashcard ICO scam for a example.
They ran away with over $4mill which isn't good, but on top of that they have all the investors KYC information.
So what protection does the investor have against their personal information being used by a scamming ICO?
Until there's a regulating authority for ICOs ,then KYC should not be required for the safety of personal data to the investors.
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June 01, 2018, 01:13:39 AM
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Obviously I am opposed to the implementation of the KYC. the biggest reason why people choose crypto money is the lack of centrality. With kyc application, this situation has no meaning
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June 01, 2018, 01:23:47 AM
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The problem I have with KYC in ICO is that a lot of these projects are scams. Lets use the recent Hashcard ICO scam for a example.
They ran away with over $4mill which isn't good, but on top of that they have all the investors KYC information.
So what protection does the investor have against their personal information being used by a scamming ICO?
Until there's a regulating authority for ICOs ,then KYC should not be required for the safety of personal data to the investors.

This news information about Hashcard is very disturbing because it portray the crypto environment in a bad light. I think the KYC concept negate the principle of anonymity of in the blockchain technology world. It should be eradicated totally in all ramifications.

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June 01, 2018, 01:27:55 AM
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Well in my opinion there is nothing wrong with KYC because they are also avoiding that the tokens could be use in a different way like terrorist group funding their illegal activities. So their tokens could be use for it if they will not require KYC on it. I know the feeling of bringing a project which you are doing your best and giving an effort for the good of the community and you do not want to be drag on a mess when someones using your tokens in an illegal activities.

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June 01, 2018, 01:33:09 AM
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KYC is disturbing freedom of crypto investors. Many ICO should apply KYC. I think this kind of ICO will be left by cryptocurrency investors sooner or later
A lot of people enjoy Investors/Bounty Hunters or just some people who tend to use cryptocurrency on transactions the anonimousity of crypto.
but with KYC feeding personal information, is absurd and denying the fact that crypto was meant for anonymous and smooth transactions.
not to mention some Fake ICO's that tend to gather personal information. or even worst phish.
I agree KYC is not for cryptocurrency users. this should be stopped.
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June 01, 2018, 01:44:21 AM
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KYC is disturbing freedom of crypto investors. Many ICO should apply KYC. I think this kind of ICO will be left by cryptocurrency investors sooner or later

I agree with you, for me KYC is not an important thing to do in crytpo currency specially in ICO. One of the platform of crypto currency is by being anonymous of the token holders and investors thats why , Why KYC really need to do ? its a waste of time.
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June 01, 2018, 01:52:55 AM
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KYC is disturbing freedom of crypto investors. Many ICO should apply KYC. I think this kind of ICO will be left by cryptocurrency investors sooner or later

I agree with you, for me KYC is not an important thing to do in crytpo currency specially in ICO. One of the platform of crypto currency is by being anonymous of the token holders and investors thats why , Why KYC really need to do ? its a waste of time.

KYC is nothing to do with the anonymity of a token because KYC is introduced due to some of the countries have banned ICO sales. So ICO investors need to prove that they do not belong to those countries so that they can participate in the ICO sales. This was introduced for some reason but ICO owners may misuse this information or if someone hacks their system then investors information will be leaked. If you want to invest in ICO then you need to take this riks or just wait until these coins list in exchange to buy without providing your personal details.
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June 01, 2018, 02:05:18 AM
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Most of the investors of  ICO projects now are required to do KYC and some of ICO are also bounty hunters should apply too. Yes it's disturbing and loss of freedom of investors. But I'm pretty worried about the information that I give because there's possibility to use it, maybe in illegal.
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June 01, 2018, 02:13:54 AM
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Most of the investors of  ICO projects now are required to do KYC and some of ICO are also bounty hunters should apply too. Yes it's disturbing and loss of freedom of investors. But I'm pretty worried about the information that I give because there's possibility to use it, maybe in illegal.
For fraudulent projects, they will surely sell all user information for monetization purposes. Most of me just KYC on good ICO projects and limit KYC to unknown projects. I personally have had a lot of trouble with KYC but in general if you want to be an ICO investor then you should accept this






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June 01, 2018, 02:19:29 AM
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this is a dilemma we experience, one side we must obey the rules and the bad side is the security of our personal data. pros and cons always happen, but I think it's better KYC be removed, before there is an authority or regulator that can hold or arrange an ico and can be a place to sue if at any time fraud occurs on ico.
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June 01, 2018, 02:23:12 AM
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Obviously I am opposed to the implementation of the KYC. the biggest reason why people choose crypto money is the lack of centrality. With kyc application, this situation has no meaning

While I fully understand your point, and I am personally wary about giving out details and such,
I'm not sure what the issue is in the big perspective?

Exchanges demand KYC because of laws; there are other ways like buying p2p.
however, as OP mentioned: ICOs - but, they are also regulated by law,
but what does it matter if one participates and provides KYC?
You can simply stay away from ICOs if you don't like the KYC part,
or otherwise, just participate and then send your tokens/coins somewhere else and don't leave a trace, then it doesn't really matter?

I guess what I'm asking is what the issue with ICO KYC actually are.
Yes, we have to identify ourselves, and if we assume it's to a legitimate party, at one point or another, someone could find out that we invested in this ICO?
at that point tho, does it really matter if there's no trace of the crypto?

It's another discussion about crypto as a whole.
Sadly, currently it appears to be rather easy to identify a wallet and a user aslong as they've at some point gone through an exchange that demands KYC.
since the majority of people don't really bother with making their funds untraceable, it's kinda easier for illegitimate parties to find out a person's crypto value, compared with using a regular bank that is watched.

Not saying that I think people should break the law.
There's a saying which I guess applies in a way to this, something like if one has nothing to hide then it doesn't matter?
I disagree, surely it's very important to retain our privacy, even if we're not breaking the law.

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June 01, 2018, 02:28:05 AM
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The problem with KYC for ICOs (and bounties and so on) is an obvious one.
Customers in these cases also require a KYS (seller) ... we have no idea which ICOs are on the level,
which exchanges aren't scams, and so on. Although I'm not keen on providing info to exchanges -- assuming they at least appear to be on the level and working within the law --
(Bittrex, GDax, Gemini, etc), I can live with it.

Some coin offering an ICO can be anyone... a group of hackers in some far away country for all I know. There the risk of KYC is too great for most customers.
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June 01, 2018, 02:34:00 AM
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However, as more and more countries start to restrict ICO, KYC is the basic requirement.
These ICO teams may face legal problems if KYC is not required.

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June 03, 2018, 05:20:11 PM
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Obviously I am opposed to the implementation of the KYC. the biggest reason why people choose crypto money is the lack of centrality. With kyc application, this situation has no meaning
Cryptocurrency means protect privacy, while KYC ask your privacy to unknown institution. It is stupid idea of KYC. I agree with you that KYC is lack of centrality. When you submit your personal Data to others, It has destroyed wht we call "Decentralization"
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June 03, 2018, 05:25:30 PM
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Why do you think like that? I think KYC is very important in ICO, it is to prevent crime, but if an ICO using KYC is so tight it will also make the investors uncomfortable. But I think all ICOs are currently using KYC Methods for their investment and if you do not want a KYC then you just do not participate, simple
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June 03, 2018, 05:31:38 PM
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KYC is disturbing freedom of crypto investors. Many ICO should apply KYC. I think this kind of ICO will be left by cryptocurrency investors sooner or later

It is already being left, as we can see investor interest plunging, those were mainly people who already had crypto to invest, and they are not interested in giving the information about them away. KYC is not good for crypto, it was not meant to be that way.
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June 03, 2018, 05:48:20 PM
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KYC won't be left. In the future, it is going to be transformed into a new form. Companies will have our submitted KYC and show to governments, ICO developers etc.
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June 03, 2018, 06:15:17 PM
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The problem I have with KYC in ICO is that a lot of these projects are scams. Lets use the recent Hashcard ICO scam for a example.
They ran away with over $4mill which isn't good, but on top of that they have all the investors KYC information.
So what protection does the investor have against their personal information being used by a scamming ICO?
Until there's a regulating authority for ICOs ,then KYC should not be required for the safety of personal data to the investors.
I also support the same point of view. No state has the right to require investors through ICO to pass a KYC check until it itself provides transparency of the ICO, excludes the possibility of fraud from the ICO team. This is possible only if the public authorities, or on their behalf, public organizations, will not carry out an appropriate verification. Because the situation is really wild and paradoxical. The state actually forces investors to transfer their identification data and copies of passports into the hands of potential fraudsters, thereby trying to discredit the ICO process and, in every case of fraud in the ICO, warns citizens that investing in ICO projects is rather risky. How not to say in this case that the state bodies do this intentionally?
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June 03, 2018, 06:23:09 PM
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I'm scared to be involved in campaigns, where there are KYC. I do not know the organizers, for what purpose they are asking for my documents. There is a high probability, that the documents will be on the black market for sale. And then a lot of scammers will be able to use my documents.
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