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7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 hilos): ~ 630H / s 4.4Ghz i7 4790k (MacOSX // 8 hilos): ~ 270h / s i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 145H / s Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 hilos): ~ 100 h / s Intel Core 1.2Ghz M5 (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 90h / s
dZ3fGxJr1zdh1Ceu2pKvUVKz8HJdcAZkKZ 0 0 99.8% 440.17 KH dHpqKwtaQG8ZWnN4BABgT5CFrGmTpUyKFT 0 0 99.78% 268.53 KH This is impossible with only CPU
those are consumer grade CPUs can you benchmark a farm filled with Dual Socket Mobo https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-H11DSI-Dual-Socket-Motherboard/dp/B077YV53TZUsing 2x Epyc 7601 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113471? Or can you benchmark someone that just throws 10k usd per day to a cloud computing service like digital ocean, amazon aws or google thingies ? You know that you can mine to a single address with multiple rigs at the same time and the hashrate will be combined, right ? Its scam. Avoid this "cpu" coin
how ? Can you elaborate ? I mean, maybe, who knows but you don't say why. That's typical merican, guilty until proven innocent, right ? fucking hellWe are not fools here, this is ONLY CPU COIN, now thread are edited, and there is no "only cpu" So someone have gpu miner, and that is reason why hashrate is so high It's an open source project on an open network. Anybody is free to develop a GPU miner, and it is inevitable that people will. In fact, it would be disappointing if nobody did (It's a sign of a coin progressing successfully).
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salecz
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June 07, 2018, 09:10:14 PM |
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7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 hilos): ~ 630H / s 4.4Ghz i7 4790k (MacOSX // 8 hilos): ~ 270h / s i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 145H / s Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 hilos): ~ 100 h / s Intel Core 1.2Ghz M5 (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 90h / s
dZ3fGxJr1zdh1Ceu2pKvUVKz8HJdcAZkKZ 0 0 99.8% 440.17 KH dHpqKwtaQG8ZWnN4BABgT5CFrGmTpUyKFT 0 0 99.78% 268.53 KH This is impossible with only CPU
those are consumer grade CPUs can you benchmark a farm filled with Dual Socket Mobo https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-H11DSI-Dual-Socket-Motherboard/dp/B077YV53TZUsing 2x Epyc 7601 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113471? Or can you benchmark someone that just throws 10k usd per day to a cloud computing service like digital ocean, amazon aws or google thingies ? You know that you can mine to a single address with multiple rigs at the same time and the hashrate will be combined, right ? Its scam. Avoid this "cpu" coin
how ? Can you elaborate ? I mean, maybe, who knows but you don't say why. That's typical merican, guilty until proven innocent, right ? fucking hellWe are not fools here, this is ONLY CPU COIN, now thread are edited, and there is no "only cpu" So someone have gpu miner, and that is reason why hashrate is so high It's an open source project on an open network. Anybody is free to develop a GPU miner, and it is inevitable that people will. In fact, it would be disappointing if nobody did. Devs said it is only cpu coin. When all people saw that there is gpu miner, dev edited thread...so...you know what i want to say
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hankrules
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June 07, 2018, 09:18:15 PM |
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7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 hilos): ~ 630H / s 4.4Ghz i7 4790k (MacOSX // 8 hilos): ~ 270h / s i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 145H / s Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 hilos): ~ 100 h / s Intel Core 1.2Ghz M5 (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 90h / s
dZ3fGxJr1zdh1Ceu2pKvUVKz8HJdcAZkKZ 0 0 99.8% 440.17 KH dHpqKwtaQG8ZWnN4BABgT5CFrGmTpUyKFT 0 0 99.78% 268.53 KH This is impossible with only CPU
those are consumer grade CPUs can you benchmark a farm filled with Dual Socket Mobo https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-H11DSI-Dual-Socket-Motherboard/dp/B077YV53TZUsing 2x Epyc 7601 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113471? Or can you benchmark someone that just throws 10k usd per day to a cloud computing service like digital ocean, amazon aws or google thingies ? You know that you can mine to a single address with multiple rigs at the same time and the hashrate will be combined, right ? Its scam. Avoid this "cpu" coin
how ? Can you elaborate ? I mean, maybe, who knows but you don't say why. That's typical merican, guilty until proven innocent, right ? fucking hellWe are not fools here, this is ONLY CPU COIN, now thread are edited, and there is no "only cpu" So someone have gpu miner, and that is reason why hashrate is so high It's an open source project on an open network. Anybody is free to develop a GPU miner, and it is inevitable that people will. In fact, it would be disappointing if nobody did. Devs said it is only cpu coin. When all people saw that there is gpu miner, dev edited thread...so...you know what i want to say It's likely that a GPU miner surfaced in the very recently, and the dev reacted accordingly. I can attest first hand that the coin was CPU minable for several days.
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salecz
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June 07, 2018, 09:25:13 PM |
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7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 hilos): ~ 630H / s 4.4Ghz i7 4790k (MacOSX // 8 hilos): ~ 270h / s i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 145H / s Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 hilos): ~ 100 h / s Intel Core 1.2Ghz M5 (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 90h / s
dZ3fGxJr1zdh1Ceu2pKvUVKz8HJdcAZkKZ 0 0 99.8% 440.17 KH dHpqKwtaQG8ZWnN4BABgT5CFrGmTpUyKFT 0 0 99.78% 268.53 KH This is impossible with only CPU
those are consumer grade CPUs can you benchmark a farm filled with Dual Socket Mobo https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-H11DSI-Dual-Socket-Motherboard/dp/B077YV53TZUsing 2x Epyc 7601 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113471? Or can you benchmark someone that just throws 10k usd per day to a cloud computing service like digital ocean, amazon aws or google thingies ? You know that you can mine to a single address with multiple rigs at the same time and the hashrate will be combined, right ? Its scam. Avoid this "cpu" coin
how ? Can you elaborate ? I mean, maybe, who knows but you don't say why. That's typical merican, guilty until proven innocent, right ? fucking hellWe are not fools here, this is ONLY CPU COIN, now thread are edited, and there is no "only cpu" So someone have gpu miner, and that is reason why hashrate is so high It's an open source project on an open network. Anybody is free to develop a GPU miner, and it is inevitable that people will. In fact, it would be disappointing if nobody did. Devs said it is only cpu coin. When all people saw that there is gpu miner, dev edited thread...so...you know what i want to say It's likely that a GPU miner surfaced in the very recently, and the dev reacted accordingly. I can attest first hand that the coin was CPU minable for several days. CPU WITH 600KH in 1 wallet?? O yea 100000 ryzens...
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June 07, 2018, 09:52:45 PM |
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Like Geekcash this coin probably has private gpu miner from the begining or someone has created it. The same 3-6 miners with hundreds cpu hashrate
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informixx (OP)
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June 08, 2018, 04:27:34 AM |
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Like Geekcash this coin probably has private gpu miner from the begining or someone has created it. The same 3-6 miners with hundreds cpu hashrate
We are a small team. And this. accusation is pointless because such a coin wouldnt survive one day in cryptospace. We dont mine our coin, why should we. We have specific premine for expenses and dev. If a GPU miner has significant more advantage over CPU, we would be the one who posting it here first.
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cyberspacemonkey
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June 08, 2018, 06:00:13 AM |
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Like Geekcash this coin probably has private gpu miner from the begining or someone has created it. The same 3-6 miners with hundreds cpu hashrate
We are a small team. And this. accusation is pointless because such a coin wouldnt survive one day in cryptospace. We dont mine our coin, why should we. We have specific premine for expenses and dev. If a GPU miner has significant more advantage over CPU, we would be the one who posting it here first. It happens with a lot of coins that start as CPU mining only but then either someone from the dev team comes up with a GPU miner and keeps it secret or someone not part of the dev team starts selling the GPU miner, I don't want to throw any accusations around but yea there's definitely something suspicious going on with the network hashrate.
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June 08, 2018, 06:15:26 AM |
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I am currently VPS mining with 31 servers at 8KHS - CPU only i would love to throw my rigs on it. Here is my addy - dWagFCEh81mRi2kMppU3NKsDt815Cnn9b2 Watch it increase above 8khs with VPS cpu only - work smarter not harder. If GPU mining was out trust me we would be smashing it, if you knew who was in our groups
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informixx (OP)
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June 08, 2018, 08:22:58 AM |
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Like Geekcash this coin probably has private gpu miner from the begining or someone has created it. The same 3-6 miners with hundreds cpu hashrate
We are a small team. And this. accusation is pointless because such a coin wouldnt survive one day in cryptospace. We dont mine our coin, why should we. We have specific premine for expenses and dev. If a GPU miner has significant more advantage over CPU, we would be the one who posting it here first. It happens with a lot of coins that start as CPU mining only but then either someone from the dev team comes up with a GPU miner and keeps it secret or someone not part of the dev team starts selling the GPU miner, I don't want to throw any accusations around but yea there's definitely something suspicious going on with the network hashrate. Our ambitions are different. If GPU miners appears, we will try to make general available.
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June 08, 2018, 09:06:52 AM |
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I am currently VPS mining with 31 servers at 8KHS - CPU only i would love to throw my rigs on it. Here is my addy - dWagFCEh81mRi2kMppU3NKsDt815Cnn9b2 Watch it increase above 8khs with VPS cpu only - work smarter not harder. If GPU mining was out trust me we would be smashing it, if you knew who was in our groups Well yeah I guess you're right it could be a bunch of botnets and servers, a GPU would probably bring difficulty up 10 times more.
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June 08, 2018, 03:21:34 PM |
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GPU ...
GPUMining Apps CAN and WILL be created for this algo. No question.
We know, as we do.
What you are all failing to see here is that BalloonHash is a very memory hard hashfunction, and is designed to lag the GPU in a way that it's performance may be better than a CPU, but not to the extents that most of you talk about.
Eg - For arguments sake (not so much hashrates but figures for the sake of the example), if a CPU does 7 and a GPU does 9 - you are admittedly gaining, as that is plain to see. The GPU itself is in front, but by how much?
Unlike a great many CPU algorithms that have come before BalloonHash, the optimization of the Algo is difficult enough, let alone the raw hash power of the GPU. Many of you are sounding like the CPU can 7 and the GPU can do 7000. With this Algo, almost impossible on that sort of scale, unless you have a farm of CPU/GPU hashers, and the amalgamation of such hardware could bring you that sort of magnitude of hashrate.
Just porting it to GPU is highly unlikely knowing the contents of the hashfunction used.
#crysx
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June 08, 2018, 04:50:35 PM |
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Somebody is mining with 56 KH/s. Is it really using CPU? I am curious somebody is using GPU rigs to mine this coin. Please enlight me...
at the moment it is all cpu. i realise that to anyone skeptical, 56kh might look like a lot, but in reality it is either a set of physical/virtual servers working as a single user. i have started working on an implementation for gpu, but this is more to offload the hashing algorithm so it doesnt bog down the user's machine, as it won't hold a great deal of advantage over cpu due to the way the hashing works. i'm currently separating balloon from it's dependency on the openssl library (sha, evp and aes functions); i'm about 1/3 of the way through, once it is independent, i will attempt an opencl kernel. however this is all being communicated clearly and will be publically released, not a private or 'for sale' miner. james 7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 hilos): ~ 630H / s 4.4Ghz i7 4790k (MacOSX // 8 hilos): ~ 270h / s i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 145H / s Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 hilos): ~ 100 h / s Intel Core 1.2Ghz M5 (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 90h / s dZ3fGxJr1zdh1Ceu2pKvUVKz8HJdcAZkKZ 0 0 99.8% 440.17 KH dHpqKwtaQG8ZWnN4BABgT5CFrGmTpUyKFT 0 0 99.78% 268.53 KH This is impossible with only CPU Some mining plant with hundreds of E5-2680V2 CPUs can reach this easily.
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June 08, 2018, 05:05:42 PM |
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7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 hilos): ~ 630H / s 4.4Ghz i7 4790k (MacOSX // 8 hilos): ~ 270h / s i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 145H / s Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 hilos): ~ 100 h / s Intel Core 1.2Ghz M5 (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 90h / s
dZ3fGxJr1zdh1Ceu2pKvUVKz8HJdcAZkKZ 0 0 99.8% 440.17 KH dHpqKwtaQG8ZWnN4BABgT5CFrGmTpUyKFT 0 0 99.78% 268.53 KH This is impossible with only CPU
those are consumer grade CPUs can you benchmark a farm filled with Dual Socket Mobo https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-H11DSI-Dual-Socket-Motherboard/dp/B077YV53TZUsing 2x Epyc 7601 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113471? Or can you benchmark someone that just throws 10k usd per day to a cloud computing service like digital ocean, amazon aws or google thingies ? You know that you can mine to a single address with multiple rigs at the same time and the hashrate will be combined, right ? Its scam. Avoid this "cpu" coin
how ? Can you elaborate ? I mean, maybe, who knows but you don't say why. That's typical merican, guilty until proven innocent, right ? fucking hellWe are not fools here, this is ONLY CPU COIN, now thread are edited, and there is no "only cpu" So someone have gpu miner, and that is reason why hashrate is so high It's an open source project on an open network. Anybody is free to develop a GPU miner, and it is inevitable that people will. In fact, it would be disappointing if nobody did. Devs said it is only cpu coin. When all people saw that there is gpu miner, dev edited thread...so...you know what i want to say It's likely that a GPU miner surfaced in the very recently, and the dev reacted accordingly. I can attest first hand that the coin was CPU minable for several days. CPU WITH 600KH in 1 wallet?? O yea 100000 ryzens... i've personally spoken with the person whose wallet this belongs to, as i was concerned about a gpu miner; as well as the load it was placing on the server (no longer an issue). this person owns 400 machines each with twin x2630 cpus (4800 cores total). i was somewhat taken back, as few people have this sort of hardware 'laying around' at their disposal. i went as far as to checking their share traffic, and to my relief they were all within standard distribution of cpu share size; just lots of them - there is never going to be a solution which prevents a person with this much processing horsepower. he was pretty upfront about it, so it doesnt bother me at all. there are a few members with ryzen cpus which achieve several kh due to the ryzen's 20mb l3 cache. one hundred of these machines could easily achieve 400kh. the best part? 4800 cores and only 600kh? i think some people seriously need a reality check regarding the possibility of a gpu miner? entirely possible. any algorithm devised could have a gpu miner written for it; the actual part that matters is the efficiency, if the miner is only 25h/s faster than a cpu, is it even a concern? you know there are publically available GPU miners for argon2? do you realise that they arent even twice as fast as a cpu? they are opencl concepts written for that exact purpose, a concept. feel free to checkout arionum's gpu miner ( https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner); to find that it is not popular at all. i've openly stated that i will attempt my own gpu miner; not in the quest for more speed, but to offset the load placed on the cpu (several members have mentioned their machines being too sluggish to use). i've also stated that once a working one is complete, it will be a public release for all. i'm not going to remove any posts regarding gpu miner accusations; i've even screenshotted them for later embarrassment as i know the posters will likely retract later. thats crypto for you james
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June 08, 2018, 06:35:06 PM |
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I see that on my pool https://beastpool.com/ some ppl use official minerdon't forget to add -f65536 to params BUT IT'S JUST FOR OFFICIAL MINER cpuminer.exe -a balloon -o stratum+tcp://beastpool.com:6533 -u WALLET_ADDR -p c=DEFT -f65536 If you are using beastpool miner you don't need that paramSaying this just to clarify. Happy mining
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June 08, 2018, 07:39:40 PM |
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GPU ...
GPUMining Apps CAN and WILL be created for this algo. No question.
We know, as we do.
What you are all failing to see here is that BalloonHash is a very memory hard hashfunction, and is designed to lag the GPU in a way that it's performance may be better than a CPU, but not to the extents that most of you talk about.
Eg - For arguments sake (not so much hashrates but figures for the sake of the example), if a CPU does 7 and a GPU does 9 - you are admittedly gaining, as that is plain to see. The GPU itself is in front, but by how much?
Unlike a great many CPU algorithms that have come before BalloonHash, the optimization of the Algo is difficult enough, let alone the raw hash power of the GPU. Many of you are sounding like the CPU can 7 and the GPU can do 7000. With this Algo, almost impossible on that sort of scale, unless you have a farm of CPU/GPU hashers, and the amalgamation of such hardware could bring you that sort of magnitude of hashrate.
Just porting it to GPU is highly unlikely knowing the contents of the hashfunction used.
#crysx
Thank you very much for the clarification. Very well written.
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June 08, 2018, 07:56:02 PM |
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Interesting concept, I hope this project will be successful in the future, because the project is very helpful and everyone is easy to use it, because DEFT does not make the weight of PC
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June 08, 2018, 08:57:56 PM |
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Sounds like a very interesting project I'll be definitely keeping an eye on it!
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June 09, 2018, 03:43:14 PM Last edit: June 09, 2018, 03:57:51 PM by Couiz |
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I updated https://beastpool.com already. You can now mine on my pool with official miner without any additional params. And I set up 0% fee Hope you like that change. Happy mining.
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June 10, 2018, 01:07:44 AM |
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Can someone help me with a problem I have with the windows miner? I have it set up to run, but it keeps saying stratum_recv_line failed and shares keep getting rejected because of low difficulty. Anyone know why this is? I have the bat files setup as follows: cpuminer-sse2.exe -a balloon -o stratum+tcp://deft.mining4.co.uk:3338 -u (my wallet).user1 -p x -q. Any help will be really appreciated.
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June 10, 2018, 07:07:17 AM |
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7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 hilos): ~ 630H / s 4.4Ghz i7 4790k (MacOSX // 8 hilos): ~ 270h / s i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 145H / s Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 hilos): ~ 100 h / s Intel Core 1.2Ghz M5 (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 90h / s
dZ3fGxJr1zdh1Ceu2pKvUVKz8HJdcAZkKZ 0 0 99.8% 440.17 KH dHpqKwtaQG8ZWnN4BABgT5CFrGmTpUyKFT 0 0 99.78% 268.53 KH This is impossible with only CPU
those are consumer grade CPUs can you benchmark a farm filled with Dual Socket Mobo https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-H11DSI-Dual-Socket-Motherboard/dp/B077YV53TZUsing 2x Epyc 7601 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113471? Or can you benchmark someone that just throws 10k usd per day to a cloud computing service like digital ocean, amazon aws or google thingies ? You know that you can mine to a single address with multiple rigs at the same time and the hashrate will be combined, right ? Its scam. Avoid this "cpu" coin
how ? Can you elaborate ? I mean, maybe, who knows but you don't say why. That's typical merican, guilty until proven innocent, right ? fucking hellWe are not fools here, this is ONLY CPU COIN, now thread are edited, and there is no "only cpu" So someone have gpu miner, and that is reason why hashrate is so high It's an open source project on an open network. Anybody is free to develop a GPU miner, and it is inevitable that people will. In fact, it would be disappointing if nobody did. Devs said it is only cpu coin. When all people saw that there is gpu miner, dev edited thread...so...you know what i want to say It's likely that a GPU miner surfaced in the very recently, and the dev reacted accordingly. I can attest first hand that the coin was CPU minable for several days. CPU WITH 600KH in 1 wallet?? O yea 100000 ryzens... 300 ryzens 2700x would do this HR easily.. easily possible with a CPU farm..
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