Roger Ver Apology Video - Give Him Some Credit Please

[JollyGood]

It's old video, but i think he don't truly apologize. He still attack Bitcoin in his "apologize" video.
Also, why should we (Bitcoin supporters) wasting our time and care about people who continuously attack Bitcoin.

Maybe he should start from learning the different Between cryptocurrency name with cryptocurrency client name.

I broadly agree with you but my point was that IF he stops making problems and accepts he was wrong then should Ver be welcomed back to the community and afforded some respect? Or do you think the damage is done and in the unlikely event he apologises it would be too little too late?

[pooya87]

it's an old and funny video! be is not only NOT apologizing in reality but also he is attacking others! and he is literary doing everything that he is saying is wrong.
for example the first thing is that he says he called bitcoin-cash bcash and he got mad. he is doing the exact same thing. he is calling bitcoin bitcoin-core and calls bitcoin-cash as bitcoin!
the other thing about "shilling" he says they lied about him paying and he can get a lawyer and sue his ass, but then continues by saying someone is paying people to shill for bitcoin!!! he should sue his own ass first for telling t his lie.

he also confessed by mistake that BCH is his "product" https://youtu.be/o8uNkcvtRtA?t=86

[JollyGood]

Yeah there are some thinly veiled insults in there for sure. He shouldn't attack Bitcoin, that shouldn't come from a major BCH supporter. Bashing the competition never makes you or what you are supporting look good. Quite the contrary actually. If BCH is that great, then the free market will decide. It should be able to stand on its own merit, and it does.

Never bash the competition. Playfully is ok, jokingly sure, but the way he does it is unacceptable as a representative of BCH.

So where does that leave Ver and the community IF he decides to come clean and apologise? Would he we welcomed back with either open arms or with a bit of scepticism?

[Marlo Stanfield]

Yeah there are some thinly veiled insults in there for sure. He shouldn't attack Bitcoin, that shouldn't come from a major BCH supporter. Bashing the competition never makes you or what you are supporting look good. Quite the contrary actually. If BCH is that great, then the free market will decide. It should be able to stand on its own merit, and it does.

Never bash the competition. Playfully is ok, jokingly sure, but the way he does it is unacceptable as a representative of BCH.

So where does that leave Ver and the community IF he decides to come clean and apologise? Would he we welcomed back with either open arms or with a bit of scepticism?

It would be insane for the community to welcome back such a person with open arms. He's literally one of the top and most infamous enemies in Bitcoin history. And it constantly gets shoved in our face as he controls the .com site which is confusing and misleading people into thinking that BCH is actually BTC. It's ridiculous.

[JollyGood]

The thing is that it's completely personal with him, and has been for years. Regardless of specific grievances with the Bitcoin devs apparently being 'fees, transaction times and block size' even if things were 100% perfect he'd still be against them at this point. Even now things are pretty great right now and the scaling is going well. But Roger is more interested in his own personal power, ego, and wealth. After watching him devolve into what he's become over the last few years it would take a complete 180 and him admitting he's been completely full of it for me to even consider giving him some credit.

Many agree with you. Everything points to Ver throwing a tantrum and him using the very same wealth that Bitcoin provided to try to attack Bitcoin and create Bitcoin Cash.

Even with the complete 180 you refer to, many will not forgive him and not forget but surely IF he has a genuine change of heart and gives to bitcoin.com domain to the community then it would be a great step to make amends. I wonder if anybody has reached out to Ver to try get him to understand the extent of damage the confusion bitcoin.com domain is creating.

[RochaMckay]

Regardless of specific grievances with the Bitcoin devs apparently being 'fees, transaction times and block size' even if things were 100% perfect he'd still be against them at this point. Even now things are pretty great right now and the scaling is going well. But Roger is more interested in his own personal power, ego, and wealth

[Pursuer]

Regardless of specific grievances with the Bitcoin devs apparently being 'fees, transaction times and block size' even if things were 100% perfect he'd still be against them at this point. Even now things are pretty great right now and the scaling is going well. But Roger is more interested in his own personal power, ego, and wealth

people like Roger Ver only care about their pockets and how they can fill it with more money. there is no being against or for anything here. he is against everything but his own interest. if bitcoin cash stops giving him profit then he will dump that just as fast and moves on to something that he can milk more and make more money from. even this "apology video" is so fucked up, it is only an apology in title.

[JollyGood]

This is hardly worry of any praise because he is only apologizing to get his credibility back. Also where is the apology for trying to make people think Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin? Yeah thats what I thought, and I'll wait for the real video that means something. This guy is deceptive, and I don't think he will ever stop being that. For me, this apology means nothing and is a PR move.

Like many people you are also waiting for the "real" apology. Many people agree with you that Ver is deceptive and have dismissed his apology because it did not seem genuine at all.

[tunapa]

I don't see this as an apology video. Though he has tried a lot for Bitcoin in the past and now he has become the enemy of it and I do not think there is any cogent reason for him to become Bitcoin enemy  or perhaps he has an hidden agenda. The bitcoin community will grow strong without him. Let him face BCH and leave Bitcoin . we don't need any apology from him.

[JollyGood]

I don't see this as an apology video. Though he has tried a lot for Bitcoin in the past and now he has become the enemy of it and I do not think there is any cogent reason for him to become Bitcoin enemy  or perhaps he has an hidden agenda. The bitcoin community will grow strong without him. Let him face BCH and leave Bitcoin . we don't need any apology from him.

Many people share your views and not interested in anything Ver has to do or say because they feel Ver is not genuine and has bitten the hand (Bitcoin) that made him rich.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I don't see this as an apology video. Though he has tried a lot for Bitcoin in the past and now he has become the enemy of it and I do not think there is any cogent reason for him to become Bitcoin enemy  or perhaps he has an hidden agenda. The bitcoin community will grow strong without him. Let him face BCH and leave Bitcoin . we don't need any apology from him.

Many people share your views and not interested in anything Ver has to do or say because they feel Ver is not genuine and has bitten the hand (Bitcoin) that made him rich.

I actually can't really imagine how anyone could seriously justify having anything to do with him after all that's happened in the past few years. Like he actively tries to harm Bitcoin. It's crazy, because he still holds a ton of BTC I believe.

[JollyGood]

I actually can't really imagine how anyone could seriously justify having anything to do with him after all that's happened in the past few years. Like he actively tries to harm Bitcoin. It's crazy, because he still holds a ton of BTC I believe.

Yes that hypocrisy of Ver holding thousands of Bitcoin yet actively trying to push Bitcoin Cash as the 'real' Bitcoin even though it is a fork is very bad.

I hope Roger one day realises the damage he has caused and simply puts things right again.

[kaitleen91]

Personally, I don't care if BCH is considered a real bitcoin or not. It seems to me that BCH is an excellent investment tool for multiplying your capital. And Roger Ver is doing everything for growing  BCH. This will be especially noticeable when the market trend will change to a growing one.

[Sam San]

Before you attack bitcoin, you need to understand this issue, understand all aspects, and then make public speeches.Whether to apologize or not is a personal matter, but this performance does not look serious.

[JollyGood]

Before you attack bitcoin, you need to understand this issue, understand all aspects, and then make public speeches.Whether to apologize or not is a personal matter, but this performance does not look serious.

Yes many people feel the same, his performance does not look serious or genuine.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Personally, I don't care if BCH is considered a real bitcoin or not. It seems to me that BCH is an excellent investment tool for multiplying your capital. And Roger Ver is doing everything for growing  BCH. This will be especially noticeable when the market trend will change to a growing one.

I don't see how BCH seems like a good investment at all, let alone multiplying your capital. The one thing it had was a short window where the fees were much less expensive than Bitcoin. But that was a result of various issues that are no longer causing the same situation. So what is it now other than a tool used by Ver and co. to more or less scam newbies and dump on them?

[JollyGood]

I don't see how BCH seems like a good investment at all, let alone multiplying your capital. The one thing it had was a short window where the fees were much less expensive than Bitcoin. But that was a result of various issues that are no longer causing the same situation. So what is it now other than a tool used by Ver and co. to more or less scam newbies and dump on them?

Well BCH did jump from $200 in August 2017 to over $1000 where it is today so as a purely investment option the was scope and might well be scope for growth but because of the hand behind Bitcoin Cash and the perceived plan it is being used to try to attack Bitcoin many people are not interested in it.

[Yaunfitda]

I'm totally tired of this politics behind the Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash. And I really don't care because I know that Bitcoin will really come on top. Ver already made his decision so shift side and attack Bitcoin so I doubt that people will find his apology sincere.

But on the other hand, if we had like Ver in our side to promote Bitcoin, I think if will be good for us, just like Vitalik is to Ethereum. I think time will tell and be the judge on how Ver should be treated around the crypto sphere. Its going to be a lot of pros and cons and arguments about him, but I don't give a f**.

[JollyGood]

I'm totally tired of this politics behind the Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash. And I really don't care because I know that Bitcoin will really come on top. Ver already made his decision so shift side and attack Bitcoin so I doubt that people will find his apology sincere.

But on the other hand, if we had like Ver in our side to promote Bitcoin, I think if will be good for us, just like Vitalik is to Ethereum. I think time will tell and be the judge on how Ver should be treated around the crypto sphere. Its going to be a lot of pros and cons and arguments about him, but I don't give a f**.

Bitcoin will survive and progress with or without Ver. What shocks many people is that he seems to have bitten the hand that fed him, why he seems to hate Bitcoin so much yet hold thousands of Bitcoins is beyond anyone. Why he seems to push Bitcoin Cash as the 'real' Bitcoin when it is nothing more than a fork is also problematic so many people have already made up their minds on Ver.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I don't see how BCH seems like a good investment at all, let alone multiplying your capital. The one thing it had was a short window where the fees were much less expensive than Bitcoin. But that was a result of various issues that are no longer causing the same situation. So what is it now other than a tool used by Ver and co. to more or less scam newbies and dump on them?

Well BCH did jump from $200 in August 2017 to over $1000 where it is today so as a purely investment option the was scope and might well be scope for growth but because of the hand behind Bitcoin Cash and the perceived plan it is being used to try to attack Bitcoin many people are not interested in it.

If someone is just looking to make money on a trade then there's probably been tons more profitable pump-and-dump alts that people have made/would have made more money on than BCH. At least with some of those alts/ICOs or whatever they are a few of them are actually genuine(I assume anyway, I know it's mostly trash).