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January 30, 2014, 07:03:48 AM
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It has gotten so cancerous here that there are talks about deleting the alt coin selection,using legal means,and banning people.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438043.0
It's Time For Theymos To Kill The Alt Section

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437647.0
The Legal Fiction Perpetuated by BitcoinTalk

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January 30, 2014, 07:10:09 AM
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It is indeed time to shut down this section.

It adds nothing of value.


~BCX~

I like alt coins as much as the next guy,but we need rules.

For instance, you can't post a new coin unless

1. You been on this forum for a year.
2.You display that your coin has ACTUAL innovation. Sorry, reducing the numbers of your coin,and changing nothing, else does not count as innovation.
Look at prime coin. I would love to see a folding at home equivalent

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January 30, 2014, 07:13:00 AM
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There is historical precedent for alt coins, hard to believe.  At the start of the industrial revolution, the general population could manufacture make their own coins.   Not legally but it was circulated and used in the economy for lesser items, or so Ive read :p

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January 30, 2014, 07:24:14 AM
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91 views,and no input from other than 3 people besides myself?

I hope you guys do realize that this would be the end of the new alt coins,including the good alt coins.


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January 30, 2014, 07:28:42 AM
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91 views,and no input from other than 3 people besides myself?

I hope you guys do realize that this would be the end of the new alt coins,including the good alt coins.
lets test that hypothesis.  shut it down already.  fuck.  stop the barking and actually bite.  

if altcoins are such money makers, let altcoins put their money where their mouth is and set out on their own.  


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January 30, 2014, 07:29:36 AM
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Shut it down!
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January 30, 2014, 07:30:51 AM
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91 views,and no input from other than 3 people besides myself?

I hope you guys do realize that this would be the end of the new alt coins,including the good alt coins.



1) It's not the people who view Alternate coins sections daily. It's the senior/hero members, ones who are die-hard bitcoin supporters, those are the ones spreading FUD to cause such an incident.

2) I love these alt-forums, but if the owners and whoevers ideology is going to cause a shut down, then there will always be another forum to take its place and traffic revenue.

3) There is no reason to shut down these forums. The problems can be solved in 2 minutes, if so the owner chooses.

I think (not really me) what people wanted was a giveaway section to promote alt-coins. Just create another child forum here and the problem will be solved.


Lastly, The alt-forum has increased in quality of posts, so the intention of the owner has been fulfilled.
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January 30, 2014, 07:50:20 AM
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The recent changes have made the forums a lot easier to use. They're cleaner, more organised, and there's less crud.

So I don't see why the alt section should be shut down. I'd like to see it stay. It's a pain to have multiple forums open.

Sure there are quite a few crapcoins, but there's also a lot of fun coins. Dogecoin has become very popular and is introducing a lot of people to crypto currencies and Bitcoin. That wouldn't have happened without the alt section here being so popular.

Compare the attitudes of people in /r/bitcoin and /r/dogecoin. Night & day. Some of the light-heartedness and gentle kindness you see in /r/dogecoin isn't a bad thing. And you can see a good amount of that here as well. That's likely a crowd that's good to keep.

But while there might not be a huge amount of innovation, it's not like we're torturing puppies here in the alt forum.

Meh... Whoever's in charge can do whatever they like. But they'll end up driving a lot of people away. Those that hate alts simply don't have to read the alt forum. Is that so hard?

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January 30, 2014, 07:51:48 AM
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Not a big deal.

Use my forum. I'm hosting giveaways there. There's a section for people's giveaways.

http://thisweekscoin.com/forum/index.php

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January 30, 2014, 09:44:52 AM
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I don't think alt coins section will be killed...
All that is needed is a good policy, to minimise spams and advertisements.
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January 30, 2014, 09:59:14 AM
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It is indeed time to shut down this section.

It adds nothing of value.


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I like alt coins as much as the next guy,but we need rules.

For instance, you can't post a new coin unless

1. You been on this forum for a year.
2.You display that your coin has ACTUAL innovation. Sorry, reducing the numbers of your coin,and changing nothing, else does not count as innovation.
Look at prime coin. I would love to see a folding at home equivalent

Come on you guys. Would you like it if all governments came along and legislated Bitcoin/Altcoin and stipulated rules on how altcoins should work? NO.

In the same way we don't want bit/alt coins to be managed by the elite, a lot of us would like the economy decide - i.e. let the forum evolve the way it would naturally. If you don't like it you can always log off and read up comments on Justin Beiber facebook page or something. But let the market decide. Crap coins or innovative coins - let us decide.

Being on a forum for atleast a year! Come on. That's like saying "you can only be old, and grey before you can join our club". You might as well say men only.

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January 30, 2014, 10:16:10 AM
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The bitcoin holders are dicks. Bitcoin need altcoins the same way than altcoins needs bitcoin, one has no value without the other. Look at how much the bitcoin world grows from the altcoins users, all the communities, media, publicity, money in the coins, etc, a lot o people meet with the altcoins first and then get to know bitcoin, like the Megacoin publicity in China or New Zeland.
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January 30, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
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It is indeed time to shut down this section.

It adds nothing of value.


~BCX~

I like alt coins as much as the next guy,but we need rules.

For instance, you can't post a new coin unless

1. You been on this forum for a year.
2.You display that your coin has ACTUAL innovation. Sorry, reducing the numbers of your coin,and changing nothing, else does not count as innovation.
Look at prime coin. I would love to see a folding at home equivalent

Come on you guys. Would you like it if all governments came along and legislated Bitcoin/Altcoin and stipulated rules on how altcoins should work? NO.

In the same way we don't want bit/alt coins to be managed by the elite, a lot of us would like the economy decide - i.e. let the forum evolve the way it would naturally. If you don't like it you can always log off and read up comments on Justin Beiber facebook page or something. But let the market decide. Crap coins or innovative coins - let us decide.

Being on a forum for atleast a year! Come on. That's like saying "you can only be old, and grey before you can join our club". You might as well say men only.

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January 30, 2014, 10:25:21 AM
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For me, Alt-coins are as valuable as Bitcoins. If someone doesn't like alt-coins forum, how hard is it to go to your forum settings and ignore those sub-forums?
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January 30, 2014, 10:29:46 AM
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It has gotten so cancerous here that there are talks about deleting the alt coin selection,using legal means,and banning people.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438043.0
It's Time For Theymos To Kill The Alt Section

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437647.0
The Legal Fiction Perpetuated by BitcoinTalk

many like alt coins... that means more traffic here also... who doesnt like , has the freedom not to read the alt coin section lol

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January 30, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
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Maybe we should start moving to cryptocointalk? Not affiliated in any way btw.

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January 30, 2014, 11:06:24 AM
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I am glad the giveaways were nuked. I can actually navigate the forum now, and new topics are not sent to page 5 in 10 minutes.

What I think is cancerous is how people deem any criticism as "trolling" and then start a wave of "ignore" followed by "+1s." Is this really how we get better? Living in dreams?

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January 30, 2014, 11:12:46 AM
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It is indeed time to shut down this section.

It adds nothing of value.


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I feel more that its time to suspend your account, if you dont like the altcoin section stay out and dont read it.
Its you that adds no value to anything, because a zero cant add value at all.

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January 30, 2014, 11:13:34 AM
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If early bitcoin holders and people 'dedicated' (note: elitist) to bitcoin can't even reign in on their own forums within reason, without throwing tantrums like this, no wonder the 'original' bitcoin fanatics are losing ground to new waves of commercial and profit seeking average joes (such label by itself implies elitism - funny how those idealists are quickly corrupted by their own ignorance and unpreparedness to face the results of their actions).

Reign in on it within reason. Don't bury it in sub-sub forum. You are in charge. Throwing in the towel now and essentially throwing a tantrum by banning such sections is out of question if you want this whole crypto to be taken seriously.

Idea is to take control, or otherwise create venues in such a way as to bring it in line, not go crying to your almighty delete button  whenever you can't handle the task.

Harsh as it maybe, it's the truth. This is a test of your abilities as administrators, and to do otherwise would be a gross negligence and show of incompetence that you can't even keep your own internet forum going, never mind a 'world-changing-movement-of-cryptocurrency'.

I believe level heads will prevail.
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January 30, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
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a lot of people have moved here and its taking off quite nicely.

http://altcoingiveaways.com/index.php

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