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Author Topic: Yes, someone stole my coin, I was saving for when our baby comes in july :(  (Read 4133 times)
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January 30, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
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I no its not a lot but someone stole 2.45BTC from my cavirtex account. I was planning on cashing them out  to buy stroller and other things  Cry
Hope they are happy
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January 30, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
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If you are reading this, I am pleading to you to return them. I know there is a slim chance of this happening, but please think about it
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January 30, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
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That's a bummer man. Stealing from a baby.  Undecided

It might help others if you could figure out how you were compromised. Any idea?

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January 30, 2014, 08:09:30 PM
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Around the same time another person said their coins were stolen, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=433522.msg4845149#msg4845149

Possibly related?

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January 30, 2014, 08:11:26 PM
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That's a bummer man. Stealing from a baby.  Undecided

It might help others if you could figure out how you were compromised. Any idea?

I really have know clue, it might be a keylogger. He got into 2 of my email account. My btc-e account which had another 0.90BTC.
My wife is really upset over this as this was our little saving  Embarrassed
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January 30, 2014, 08:12:21 PM
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Were you using 2FA authentication?  Even without 2FA, cavirtex still requires browser authentication via email.  

To steal your coins without 2FA, someone would need to:

1.  Try to login to your account at cavirtex (knowing your username and password).
2.  They would receive a notice that your browser has not been authenticated and they would send out an email that allows you to authenticate this browser.
3.  So now the thief would also need to have access to your email account, in order to authenticate his browser.
4.  Finally, he can re-login to cavirtex and steal your coins.

With 2FA enabled it would be much more difficult.  He'd need to "guess" your 2FA code to even get cavirtex to send the browser authentication email.  He'd have to guess it again to log-in to your account.  


That being said, I wish cavirtex also required a 2FA code prior to withdrawing coins, and allowed you to "lock-down" a withdrawal address and set user-specified withdrawal limits.  

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January 30, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
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Yes, he got into my email too.

Under transaction history this was the address: 1835BjmXj2GER2sMdBbewhyS2Hm6v8JbB6
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January 30, 2014, 08:16:35 PM
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My first question is what Operating System was the OP using to log into CaVirtex?

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January 30, 2014, 08:17:50 PM
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Yes, he got into my email too.

Under transaction history this was the address: 1835BjmXj2GER2sMdBbewhyS2Hm6v8JbB6

Thanks for the info.  Did you have 2FA enabled?  

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January 30, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
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No , I did not. Dam this has given me a fever
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January 30, 2014, 08:21:42 PM
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No , I did not. Dam this has given me a fever

no 2fa?

fail

make sure both the btc-e account, coinbase, whatever AND email has 2fa

meaning

to log in to your e-mail, you need a code from your phone
and same thing for your bitcoin acct (btc-e, coinbase etc.)
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January 30, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
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just wanted to add

for example, blockchain has 2fa+ main password

AND a second password (different from the main) to send the coins

so you would need 2 passwords+ a way to steal the 2fa text msg to my phone to access the funds.

not only that, you should have more than 1 wallet.

so if by any miracle, someone was able to access my account with 2 passwords +2fa, it would only have 1 btc max. instead of all in 1 wallet...
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January 30, 2014, 08:26:59 PM
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No , I did not [have 2FA enabled]. Dam this has given me a fever

I'm sorry for your loss.  

Since 2FA was not enabled, the thief required your login credentials at cavirtex and for your email.  So, key-logger, phishing site, weak passwords, etc could all have been the cause.  

That is a painful sum of coins to lose, for sure, but it could have been a lot worse.  I really hope everyone starts to understand the importance of 2FA.  Once you set it up once, it's pretty easy to use.

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January 30, 2014, 08:34:40 PM
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I'm starting to realize the true magnitude of what just happened. I know to some of you guys its a minor amount, but its all I really had
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January 30, 2014, 08:45:38 PM
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I'm starting to realize the true magnitude of what just happened. I know to some of you guys its a minor amount, but its all I really had

I'm sorry for your loss.

Why did you ignore the countless thefts that have occurred before? Didn't you think that with such an important amount of money you should have invested some serious time into learning how to properly secure it?'

These might seem like rude or difficult questions, but perhaps as a community we can start to understand why some people ignore all of the amazing tools available for securing bitcoins. Once we understand, maybe we can raise awareness.

I couldn't imagine leaving such an important amount of money at some exchange. That's just asking for trouble. Sad

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January 30, 2014, 08:52:39 PM
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I'm starting to realize the true magnitude of what just happened. I know to some of you guys its a minor amount, but its all I really had

I'm sorry for your loss.

Why did you ignore the countless thefts that have occurred before? Didn't you think that with such an important amount of money you should have invested some serious time into learning how to properly secure it?'

These might seem like rude or difficult questions, but perhaps as a community we can start to understand why some people ignore all of the amazing tools available for securing bitcoins. Once we understand, maybe we can raise awareness.

I couldn't imagine leaving such an important amount of money at some exchange. That's just asking for trouble. Sad

I know. I am extremely depressed
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January 30, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
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My first question is what Operating System was the OP using to log into CaVirtex?

I was using windows 8.1
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January 30, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
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DON'T STORE bitcoin in a virtual wallet !
ALWAYS TRANSFER to the bitcoin-QT !

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January 30, 2014, 10:57:13 PM
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If It's more than you can stand to lose keep it offline on a usb stick or paper wallet.

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January 30, 2014, 10:59:37 PM
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Sorry to hear this maybe you should store it on a cold wallet next time and only transfer when you need to otherwise this could always happen I hope you recover.

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