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June 03, 2018, 06:54:43 AM
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Currently, many newbie accounts and JR member join bounty programs.
In order to limit their spam, I have a suggestion. Administrators and moderators should refer to using form weekly report so that members can report. This is to limit the amount of unnecessary garbage on the forum.
Let me give you an example:
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Report date: 19.03.2018 – 25.03.2018
Facebook URL: https://www.facebook.com/XXX
Followers: 5300
Posts:
https://www.facebook.com/XXX/posts/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
https://www.facebook.com/XXX/posts/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

TWITTER
Report date: 19.03.2018 – 25.03.2018
Twitter Username: @XXX
Twitter url: https://twitter.com/XXX
Followers: 12600
Tweets:

Like+Retweets:
https://twitter.com/XXX/status/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
https://twitter.com/XXX/status/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

And now, if we using report FORM

I think we will minimize unnecessary posts.
This is my opinion, and you?




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June 03, 2018, 07:15:46 AM
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Most of the bounties require the users to update the first post only with entries for each week ? So where are those unnecessary posts you are talking about ?
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June 03, 2018, 07:24:09 AM
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Spam in bounty topic is not annoying, because people coming there for an obvious reason of joining one. But this google forms is one of the best things to make the life of bounty hunters so much better. Assuming manager checking it on regular basis.

The only reason to reduce the amount of spam is to limit requirements of posts. Some managers require 20-30 posts per week. This is insane, nobody checks the quality of posts of this amount. They ask 70-100 characters per post but in reality, only check starting and finishing post counts. How long will these bounty managers dictate their conditions on this forum? If the administration will ask them to reduce requirements and do a better job of checking posts then no need to cancel signatures. You'll see fewer spammers, trust me.

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Spam in bounty topic is not annoying, because people coming there for an obvious reason of joining one. But this google forms is one of the best things to make the life of bounty hunters so much better. Assuming manager checking it on regular basis.
Agree with you!

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The only reason to reduce the amount of spam is to limit requirements of posts. Some managers require 20-30 posts per week. This is insane, nobody checks the quality of posts of this amount. They ask 70-100 characters per post but in reality, only check starting and finishing post counts. How long will these bounty managers dictate their conditions on this forum? If the administration will ask them to reduce requirements and do a better job of checking posts then no need to cancel signatures. You'll see fewer spammers, trust me.
They only check the number of characters. But management is not easy. So far, there are too many accounts on the forum. They (admin) can't manage it all.




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June 03, 2018, 09:28:26 AM
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Spam in bounty topic is not annoying, because people coming there for an obvious reason of joining one. But this google forms is one of the best things to make the life of bounty hunters so much better. Assuming manager checking it on regular basis.

Exactly that is what the section is for. The spam everyone is trying to clear up are all the garbage posts littered throughout the rest of the forum, making it difficult to have a real discussion or find relevant information.

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The only reason to reduce the amount of spam is to limit requirements of posts. Some managers require 20-30 posts per week. This is insane, nobody checks the quality of posts of this amount. They ask 70-100 characters per post but in reality, only check starting and finishing post counts. How long will these bounty managers dictate their conditions on this forum? If the administration will ask them to reduce requirements and do a better job of checking posts then no need to cancel signatures. You'll see fewer spammers, trust me.

Not exactly true, a person can easily post 25 posts in a week that contribute, and provide a net positive for the forum. I have seen some campaigns that put minimums of 200 characters in their required posts. I believe that leads to massive walls of text or plagiarism (thankfully a lot of people are hunting for this).

Lowering the requirements as you say will just lead to more people coming here and spouting garbage as it will be seen as easier to meet the minimums. They will enroll their multiple accounts to earn multiples of 20$ until caught.

What needs to be done is Managers need to be responsible for the campaigns they run. I know some have assistants who do more of the heavy lifting in checking post quality to fight spam, but that's not everyone. Personally I think if you find people wearing Sigs and spamming around the forum or just posting garbage, quote the post and message the campaign manager; they may take action right away or you will annoy them into taking action.



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June 03, 2018, 09:30:25 AM
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Twitter of Facebook bounty are not so annoying, because these are in the bounty thread and they are just increasing the no. Of post in this forum.Everybody knows this ,so nobody read those.

In my opinion more annoying is signature bounty, because in this members have to post fix no. Of in fix time.No matter the quality on matters the no of post with predefined characters.
So members have to post without thinking about the quality of post.
 

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June 03, 2018, 10:16:16 AM
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Most of the bounties require the users to update the first post only with entries for each week ? So where are those unnecessary posts you are talking about ?
I think what he meant was the quoting of post. Not all bounties require to only edit their post.

Spam in bounty topic is not annoying, because people coming there for an obvious reason of joining one. But this google forms is one of the best things to make the life of bounty hunters so much better. Assuming manager checking it on regular basis.

The only reason to reduce the amount of spam is to limit requirements of posts. Some managers require 20-30 posts per week. This is insane, nobody checks the quality of posts of this amount. They ask 70-100 characters per post but in reality, only check starting and finishing post counts. How long will these bounty managers dictate their conditions on this forum? If the administration will ask them to reduce requirements and do a better job of checking posts then no need to cancel signatures. You'll see fewer spammers, trust me.
Although your first paragraph seems on point, i personally woudn't want to report on google forms, i think it's too time consuming for a mobile user like me.

Your second paragraph attacked the general idea of spam, not the one OP was thinking (i think). Besides spam will always be there, and most of the bounty requires about 10-15 ppw (post per week), and i don't really think bounties requires you to do 20-30 ppw, i think what you're thinking is their maximum post counts.
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June 03, 2018, 12:24:55 PM
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Twitter of Facebook bounty are not so annoying, because these are in the bounty thread and they are just increasing the no. Of post in this forum.Everybody knows this ,so nobody read those.

In my opinion more annoying is signature bounty, because in this members have to post fix no. Of in fix time.No matter the quality on matters the no of post with predefined characters.
So members have to post without thinking about the quality of post.
 

What kind of logic is this? Do you think if they spam with quoting style like that in the bounty thread then it is okay? Nobody read those doesnt mean it doesnt affect the server in any way. Spam is a spam no matter what, and you can not left out that kind of bounty posts as "not so annoying". And for signature, they have minimal character per post and then if the managers are the high quality one, they wont count the spam as eligible posts. Trust me, i have been in the signature where this 1 guy got kicked by the manager with no payment because he is burst posting even though he is doing a good posts, it is also kind of spam you know.

Bounty posts spam is also a spam, period, and if i may add, bounty spams are worser than signature spam.
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June 03, 2018, 02:20:45 PM
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The admin and mods are always thinking about new ways to reduce the amount of spams. In my opinion your idea is not that good. There are millions of unnecessary posts. The mod is not going to waste his time minimizing posts. For me, the admin should block people from posting when the thread reaches 15 pages or even 10 pages since the OP will have gotten his answer. And the useless threads should be deleted right away after they are posted.
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June 03, 2018, 02:26:34 PM
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Bounty managers won't go for that. They want the long threads, it's good for their Google rank.
Best thing for you to do is to change your preferences in your profile and put those boards on ignore.
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June 03, 2018, 03:28:40 PM
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Spam post are not only twitter or facebook link, It is mainly contents of posts by which one can judge the quality of post. So it may be case of signature bounty or increasing posts for any reason . So in main opinion each post should be giving ranking with a sort explanation on the basis of its contents or contribution to forums . So if the intention of user  is to only increase the post , it can be seen as a spammer otherwise   one can be easily told about where his post is lacking in quality so that he  can improve further.
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Spam in bounty topic is not annoying, because people coming there for an obvious reason of joining one.
Exactly, and since I don't participate in these things, I have that section blocked. 

The main problem from these bounty hunters is not from their social media campaigns or even from the posts related to them in the OP here--it's from the signature campaigns that require them to post here on bitcointalk.  Most of these participants are illiterate (in English at least, though they're stupid in any language) spammers who only want to post the bare minimum for the bounty.  Thus they put no thought whatsoever into their posts, which leads to a whole array of negative effects, like copy/pasting, shitposting, and multi-account participation. 

That's the only part of the whole bounty thing that concerns me.  They have their own section to post their social media counts and stuff, so let that be.

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June 03, 2018, 03:54:27 PM
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Currently, many newbie accounts and JR member join bounty programs.
In order to limit their spam, I have a suggestion. Administrators and moderators should refer to using form weekly report so that members can report. This is to limit the amount of unnecessary garbage on the forum.
Let me give you an example:
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FACEBOOK
Report date: 19.03.2018 – 25.03.2018
Facebook URL: https://www.facebook.com/XXX
Followers: 5300
Posts:
https://www.facebook.com/XXX/posts/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
https://www.facebook.com/XXX/posts/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

TWITTER
Report date: 19.03.2018 – 25.03.2018
Twitter Username: @XXX
Twitter url: https://twitter.com/XXX
Followers: 12600
Tweets:

Like+Retweets:
https://twitter.com/XXX/status/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
https://twitter.com/XXX/status/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

And now, if we using report FORM

I think we will minimize unnecessary posts.
This is my opinion, and you?





remove all stats regarding the forum account, like number of posts, merit, and those statuses like legendary, etc. then no one will have reason to spam post, however people will still seek to advertise themselves here.

thats a backfirering reality since bitcoin group also advertised themselves

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Need to submit reports via google form how for example does  bounty manager DentIt.
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This is something the staff of the forum would have to take very seriously.

It's grossly abused and it doesn't even make sense for a bounty manager to have in thread verifications. They just make his work harder. Threads should be for discussion...

Most bounty campaign managers these days use this to bump their thread with mane using automated responses even. I am speaking from experience.

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June 04, 2018, 05:30:11 AM
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Most of the bounties require the users to update the first post only with entries for each week ? So where are those unnecessary posts you are talking about ?

Preventing in spam posts is easy to do you just need to post with an alternate one to two hours or shall we say 4 post a day. You don't need to rush a post you may be banned.
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June 04, 2018, 01:55:00 PM
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Many bounty managers are already asking to make Facebook and Twitter reports using Google Forms. But many users (or spam bots) don't read the rules and they post report in bounty thread. Some people are even posting reports on inactive bounty threads which already ended few months ago. I even saw that sometimes users making new threads on Bitcoin discussion or Altcoin discussion boards.
I support your suggestion. But anyway, these social media reports aren't biggest problem on bitcointalk. I'm more concerned about copy-pasters, spam bots and users who join bounties with 50 alt accounts - it's more serious problems.

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Currently, many newbie accounts and JR member join bounty programs.
In order to limit their spam, I have a suggestion. Administrators and moderators should refer to using form weekly report so that members can report. This is to limit the amount of unnecessary garbage on the forum.
Let me give you an example:
Quote
FACEBOOK
Report date: 19.03.2018 – 25.03.2018
Facebook URL: https://www.facebook.com/XXX
Followers: 5300
Posts:
https://www.facebook.com/XXX/posts/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
https://www.facebook.com/XXX/posts/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

TWITTER
Report date: 19.03.2018 – 25.03.2018
Twitter Username: @XXX
Twitter url: https://twitter.com/XXX
Followers: 12600
Tweets:

Like+Retweets:
https://twitter.com/XXX/status/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
https://twitter.com/XXX/status/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

And now, if we using report FORM

I think we will minimize unnecessary posts.
This is my opinion, and you?





This with the hands of bounty managers hand mate. If the manager starts accepting the partcipants with the link and weekly reports with the link itself means then you could not find the post on the bounty thread bro.
I believe this wanted done by the campaign manager since they want the participants to bump their thread mate.

I do not think it will be stopped by the bounty managers.
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