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September 15, 2018, 02:33:19 PM
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Of course yes,  for easily to withdraw your money, but the question is if the banks are want's to accept your money through bitcoin because we all know that other countries are until now not agree and accept bitcoin. We agree to banks but banks are not agree to bitcoin especially the government.
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September 26, 2018, 05:44:45 AM
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I don't need central bank because I have bitcoin wallet and I used it  without high fee
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September 26, 2018, 06:01:43 AM
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We need Central Banks to a extent only if the banks do not play around with the people and cheat them.But once people chetaed it's better to shift to decentralized economy where manipulation is too tough.
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September 26, 2018, 06:39:58 AM
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The central bank I think it's needed for everyone. It is necessary to have policies and regulations to control the currency and economy of a country.Otherwise it will become chaotic things will lose control.
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September 26, 2018, 07:54:34 AM
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I think we can do away from Central Bank since fiat still exist and central bank is the major controller of the fiat and regulations of it, which involve government as the central controller but crypto is decentralized and have to work in hand with fiat no matter what.
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September 26, 2018, 08:32:41 AM
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This is evident to every country to dream of, as it speeds up economic development in a stable state and continues to grow and stabilize the finances of nations. Without it, I think there will be great fluctuations in the current market economy, as the market today has so much change as technology is developed.

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September 26, 2018, 08:50:42 AM
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we do require national banks for the control of the national money. furthermore, if the day comes that bitcoin will supplant the fiat cash, and everything is decentralized, these national banks will presumably be out of date.

Our modern monetary system is a system that creates money as debt.
If we had no debts in our global monetary system, no money could exist.
That’s a funny concept if you think about it.
The monetary system allows the banks to print money – and when I say “print money” I use this term very loosely, because the predominant amount of money today is created as digital debits and credits. So when we think of fiat money, most people think of paper money, but in reality most paper money doesn’t even exist. It’s just digital credits credited from central bank to regional banks to commercial banks and then to the various creditors and debtors in the system. So there’s virtually zero labour that’s being performed and banks charge consumers interest on this absence of labour.
Centuries ago, we used to call that usury and fraud. Today we just accept it as the way the system works.
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September 26, 2018, 09:41:36 AM
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all truly the author. we do not need banks then that this completely contradicts the original idea of the creator of the crypto currency which considered it absolutely decentralized

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September 26, 2018, 09:48:09 AM
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We need central banks at the moment. Cryptocurrencies should be exchanged into cash before using... only few online stores accept bitcoins.  Undecided

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September 26, 2018, 10:00:53 AM
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I think yes. Some say that without a central bank, paper money does not exist, they use gold and silver to trade. This is the opposite of human development because it was used by people thousands of years ago. The central bank will keep its economic growth priorities in perspective. People will fall into chaos without a central bank.
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September 26, 2018, 11:10:09 AM
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The central bank is made up of a regular and strong exchange process. However, for the crypto market the bank stands out as intermediaries it seems difficult.
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September 26, 2018, 11:35:58 AM
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Why would we need central banks for cryptocurrencies? The fact that it's not regulated will defeat its purpose if they will be regulated by the banks. If banks will ever get involved, it is if they want to invest on it and not regulate it.
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September 26, 2018, 12:41:38 PM
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Every country has a central bank that regulates printing money. Cetral banks are still used to be able to provide direction about finance.
To maintain fiat money, the Centra bank was still used even though in this crypto bank to pass and exchange as fiat money.

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September 26, 2018, 12:55:41 PM
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we don't need any central banks with blockchain technology. and I fairy don't follow the logic of those coins who help the banks with transactions!
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September 26, 2018, 01:01:42 PM
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Shifting from Central Planning to a Decentralised Economy: Do we Need Central Banks?
by Professor Richard A. Werner, D.Phil. (Oxon)

I. The Central Bank Narrative

For more than the past four decades, public policy discourse, especially when touching on macroeconomic and monetary policy, has been dominated by the views held and actively sponsored by the central banks, particularly in Europe and North-America, as well as Japan.

Their policy narrative has been consistent over time and virtually identical between central banks, which is why I shall refer to it collectively as the ‘central bank narrative’. It has been mirrored in the type of economics that central bankers have supported and that has indeed subsequently become dominant in academia and among the economists selected as the experts of choice in the major newspapers and television channels: the theoreticians advancing neo-classical economics.

This central bank narrative (and hence also the dominant neo-classical economics, also known as ‘mainstream economics’) has at least five major pillars, which I shall list briefly:



The truth of the matter is: We don’t need central banks. Since 97% of the money supply is created by banks, the importance of central banks is far smaller than generally envisaged. Moreover, the kind of money that commercial banks create is not privileged at law. Legally, our money supply is simply private company credit, which can be created by any company, with or without banking license.

Eurozone countries, having given up the right to their own currencies, can still create money and reflate the economy: the government, for instance in Spain, simply needs to stop the issuance of government bonds, and fund the entire public sector borrowing requirement from the domestic banks that create it out of nothing – and can do so at more competitive rates as the bond markets: this policy of Enhanced Debt Management (Werner, 2014b) not only would make it obvious that Spain does not need the ECB, but it would also put the national debt profiteers – the bond underwriting firms such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley – out of business.

This reality of private money creation also means that we can, without legal obstacles, create a decentralized system of local currencies, without central bank involvement.

The key principle of such decentralization is local autonomy, self-determination, self-responsibility and self-administration. These are in fact the fundamental principles of the co-operative movement, as championed by Hermann Schultze-Delitzsch and Wilhelm Raiffeisen over 150 years ago. This co-operative movement early on realized that a crucial role for co-operatives is in the creation of co-operative banks controlled by the local communities. Sadly, in the UK credit unions are not banks, since they are not allowed to lend to firms in meaningful amounts, and don’t have a banking license. Thus we need to create true community banks.

Lord Action pointed out:

 

“It is easier to find people fit to govern themselves than people fit to govern others”.

 

“Towns were the nursery of freedom.”

 

The German banking system is dominated by 1,500 community banks, which are also the majority of banks in the entire EU. This means that 80% of German banks are not-for-profit, which has strengthened the German economy for the past 200 years. A banking system consisting of many small banks is also far less prone to boom-bust cycles and it creates more jobs per given amount of loan than large banks. Thus community banks also result in a more equal income and wealth distribution.

Local banking is highly popular in Germany, because SMEs get access to finance that would not be serviced by large banks. The community banks provide their services at competitive rates and support their customers also during recessions. With community banks, the wider community gets a bank whose goals are aligned with theirs, banks that pay taxes, banks that support local growth and jobs. At the same time community banks offer customers a place to put their money where it can benefit the local community, not far-flung projects or speculators.

Can we tackle this challenge?

Until the 1970s, there has been much optimism in economics and there have been high expectations that many of the problems of mankind would soon be solved.

Was this a reasonable expectation?

While it has not come true, it was a reasonable expectation. This is because

 

“Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings”

John F. Kennedy

I think we need central bank in classical economy method. Someone has to arrange money supply and demand. So someone has to print it paper. I mean someone has to create a value and sell it. But if cryptocurrencies will be succeedd, then we can talk they are useless. Because cryptos (real ones) doesn't need supply thing.



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September 26, 2018, 01:03:30 PM
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we need a decentralized bank. fiats are scam!!!

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September 26, 2018, 01:13:41 PM
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Shifting from Central Planning to a Decentralised Economy: Do we Need Central Banks?
by Professor Richard A. Werner, D.Phil. (Oxon)

I. The Central Bank Narrative

For more than the past four decades, public policy discourse, especially when touching on macroeconomic and monetary policy, has been dominated by the views held and actively sponsored by the central banks, particularly in Europe and North-America, as well as Japan.

Their policy narrative has been consistent over time and virtually identical between central banks, which is why I shall refer to it collectively as the ‘central bank narrative’. It has been mirrored in the type of economics that central bankers have supported and that has indeed subsequently become dominant in academia and among the economists selected as the experts of choice in the major newspapers and television channels: the theoreticians advancing neo-classical economics.

This central bank narrative (and hence also the dominant neo-classical economics, also known as ‘mainstream economics’) has at least five major pillars, which I shall list briefly:



The truth of the matter is: We don’t need central banks. Since 97% of the money supply is created by banks, the importance of central banks is far smaller than generally envisaged. Moreover, the kind of money that commercial banks create is not privileged at law. Legally, our money supply is simply private company credit, which can be created by any company, with or without banking license.

Eurozone countries, having given up the right to their own currencies, can still create money and reflate the economy: the government, for instance in Spain, simply needs to stop the issuance of government bonds, and fund the entire public sector borrowing requirement from the domestic banks that create it out of nothing – and can do so at more competitive rates as the bond markets: this policy of Enhanced Debt Management (Werner, 2014b) not only would make it obvious that Spain does not need the ECB, but it would also put the national debt profiteers – the bond underwriting firms such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley – out of business.

This reality of private money creation also means that we can, without legal obstacles, create a decentralized system of local currencies, without central bank involvement.

The key principle of such decentralization is local autonomy, self-determination, self-responsibility and self-administration. These are in fact the fundamental principles of the co-operative movement, as championed by Hermann Schultze-Delitzsch and Wilhelm Raiffeisen over 150 years ago. This co-operative movement early on realized that a crucial role for co-operatives is in the creation of co-operative banks controlled by the local communities. Sadly, in the UK credit unions are not banks, since they are not allowed to lend to firms in meaningful amounts, and don’t have a banking license. Thus we need to create true community banks.

Lord Action pointed out:

 

“It is easier to find people fit to govern themselves than people fit to govern others”.

 

“Towns were the nursery of freedom.”

 

The German banking system is dominated by 1,500 community banks, which are also the majority of banks in the entire EU. This means that 80% of German banks are not-for-profit, which has strengthened the German economy for the past 200 years. A banking system consisting of many small banks is also far less prone to boom-bust cycles and it creates more jobs per given amount of loan than large banks. Thus community banks also result in a more equal income and wealth distribution.

Local banking is highly popular in Germany, because SMEs get access to finance that would not be serviced by large banks. The community banks provide their services at competitive rates and support their customers also during recessions. With community banks, the wider community gets a bank whose goals are aligned with theirs, banks that pay taxes, banks that support local growth and jobs. At the same time community banks offer customers a place to put their money where it can benefit the local community, not far-flung projects or speculators.

Can we tackle this challenge?

Until the 1970s, there has been much optimism in economics and there have been high expectations that many of the problems of mankind would soon be solved.

Was this a reasonable expectation?

While it has not come true, it was a reasonable expectation. This is because

 

“Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings”

John F. Kennedy
Yes, im totally agree with these opinion. The initial goal of bitcoin is something that free and fair without the role of middleman or other parties rather than the buyer and seller only. so i think we don't need the role of central bank at all.


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September 26, 2018, 08:24:39 PM
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  Hello crypto-fans Bankers are shifting their views on blockchain integration and benefits by being open to implementing DLTs across platforms to ensure they remain competitive.
"Banks seem smitten by blockchain. Seems everyone is getting into the act. Traditional banks, especially, and central banks, too. But might the more enthusiastic adopters be getting a bit ahead of themselves?" Read more:  https://www.pymnts.com/news/b2b-payments/2018/blockchain-distributed-ledger-international-regulations
P.S. The owners of banks are attracted by the transparency of operations, which all participants can follow. Another possibility is the identification of clients (KYC) and protection from hacker attacks!
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September 26, 2018, 08:59:02 PM
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I do not see the essence of central banks in the bitcoin and blockchain technology. Bitcoin is decentralised and that is a good part of it. Getting a central bank for bitcoin means bitcoin owners will no longer remain anonymous.

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September 26, 2018, 10:11:32 PM
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I do not see the essence of central banks in the bitcoin and blockchain technology. Bitcoin is decentralised and that is a good part of it. Getting a central bank for bitcoin means bitcoin owners will no longer remain anonymous.
That is right, maybe one of the purpose of having a bitcoin or crypto is to avoid third party for us to have a smooth and fast transactions with everything that we are doing so that we don't need bank to do it.
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