Zotac P102 GPU's for Sale in USA - Community Limited Public Sale

[Blockbrook]

Hey BitcoinTalk members,

We are excited to announce the launch of Blockbrook Technology Group with the limited public sale of Zotac P102 GPU's to the US market as of today. Being that these cards have been sold very little in the US and by no companies based in the US, we wanted to give the community a way to buy these cards from a trusted US based vendor at a very solid rate. The mining card statistics and shipping information is below.

The Card:
Model Name:
Technical Details:
 - CUDA Cores: 3200
 - Memory Configuration: 5GB GDDR5X
 - Memory Interface: 256bit
 - Base / Boost Clock Rate: 1582 / 1683MHz
 - Memory Clock Rate: 11010MHz
 - Cooling Layout: Heatsink
 - Max TDP: 250 Watts
Hashrates:
 - Ethash: 47Mh/s+
 - Equihash: 660Sol/s+
 - CryptoNightV7: 880H/s+
 - We are currently continuing to test this card on Lyra, NeoScrypt, NIST5 and Grostel. We will update when we have finalized rates in.
Shipping and Cost:
 - Between 1-60 days depending on demand. We want these in your hands ASAP.
 - Cost: $809.95 + Shipping

To give more background on Blockbrook Technology Group (blockbrookgroup.com), our team is based out of the US and we are currently working at big four tech companies and are selling very specialized mining equipment that isn't too available in the US, as well as software solutions. We wanted to give this opportunity some light to other US based miners, and hopefully fill some orders to help get these into the hands of people that want them. Having mined with these for the last two or so weeks, they are absolute monsters for a GPU card, and cooling has been consistent and a non issue thus far. If you are looking to order a large quantity of these cards, please DM us so we can help you out.

Also: If you are not interested in buying these cards and don't like putting in tons of hours into new coins to mine, please visit our site and sign up for our free monthly mining report! We put about 150-200 hours of research into each report, and give insight on new up and coming projects as well as consistent and high ROI coins as well. This report is designed for the community, and we want to help save you guys some time while also giving ourselves a challenge to continue learning in the space as well (for reference, we mined Monero at ~$2.40, Ethereum at ~$11, ZCash at $55 and Luxcoin at $1.10). We also plan on NEVER selling any email/names that are collected on our end and we plan on encrypting all data, as we know that security and trust is of the upmost importance.

If any of you have questions, please just let us know! We have images of the card on our website as well if you'd like to see some.   

[dazzmore]

What's the advantage of this vs, say a 1080 ti, since stock is available for most vendors?

[groovyeaglets]

What's the advantage of this vs, say a 1080 ti, since stock is available for most vendors?

Power efficiency. Slightly better hashrates than a 1080ti at the power consumption of a 1070. And the price

[Blockbrook]

What's the advantage of this vs, say a 1080 ti, since stock is available for most vendors?

From our testing the main difference would be wattage usage per algorithm and the hashrate output. The p102 rates listed above were given at a wattage of 250 watts. The 1080TI on Ethash will do 32Mh/s at ~285 watts and Equihash at about 710 Sol/s at 285 watts while the P102 will do 47Mh/s (we've gotten up to 52) at 250w and Equihash at 660 with 250w. These GTX 1080TI of course could be scaled higher with overclocking, but the rates could peak at around 325-350 watts. That difference in wattage can add up over time, and especially if you're a larger operation, that efficiency in savings can help a ton on electrical cost and reaching card ROI as well. We are also still doing tests on some other algorithms, but there may still be some different ones that are similar to Ethash that this card will do very well with. We are also still testing overclocking capabilities on these cards as well to see what we can get them up to and the wattage that comes with that.

Basically what groovy said

[Lemonator]

Interesting. I've been lurkering on here for a while now but this is the first time I've seen P102's for sale in the US at a non eye-gouging price. Is there an MOQ? Ill message you directly

[texasman86]

Why buy 1 P102 when I can get 3x RX580s and significantly more returns? I don’t get the value proposition of this overpriced card...

[Blockbrook]

Why buy 1 P102 when I can get 3x RX580s and significantly more returns? I don’t get the value proposition of this overpriced card...

Great question. While we agree you could get more in returns from 3x 580's on Eth and ZCash, the P102 does much better on Nist, Lyra, PI1612 and X16R based algorithms. Off that as well, the 3x you mentioned would be doing ~420-450 watts which is 68-80% more power. Crank this up to anything over 20 cards and the P102 scales much better.

Regardless, this case is one where our mining report could help you out even though our cards don't fit into your mining profile. Thanks for the comment!

[Regulater]

What's the advantage of this vs, say a 1080 ti, since stock is available for most vendors?

From our testing the main difference would be wattage usage per algorithm and the hashrate output. The p102 rates listed above were given at a wattage of 250 watts. The 1080TI on Ethash will do 32Mh/s at ~285 watts and Equihash at about 710 Sol/s at 285 watts while the P102 will do 47Mh/s (we've gotten up to 52) at 250w and Equihash at 660 with 250w. These GTX 1080TI of course could be scaled higher with overclocking, but the rates could peak at around 325-350 watts. That difference in wattage can add up over time, and especially if you're a larger operation, that efficiency in savings can help a ton on electrical cost and reaching card ROI as well. We are also still doing tests on some other algorithms, but there may still be some different ones that are similar to Ethash that this card will do very well with. We are also still testing overclocking capabilities on these cards as well to see what we can get them up to and the wattage that comes with that.

Basically what groovy said

Thats not good hashrate per wattage. My 1080ti Blower cards with ethlargement do 50mh/s at 190 watts, along with 725 sol/s at 190 watts. The p102 is not worth it unless you can get them cheaper than a 1080ti.

1080ti is a consumer grade card with 3 year warranty, and using ETHLargement will give you equivalent hashrates as a p102.

P102 is not a consumer grade card and only has a 3 month warranty and might have less than a 5% increase past a 1080ti using ethlargement at a slightly higher TDP along with very little driver support (I believe there is only 1 driver available and doesnt support cuda 9+), and overclocking support, and support in general.

Overall, dont waste your time with a p102. 1080ti's are under $800 shipped now.

[Blockbrook]

While ETHLargement may get you those rates, there are questions on its validity due to its closed source nature (unless I'm uninformed on it being verified as safe to use). But just to note, however, we could test the P102 on that as well and get the results from it as the card (P102) is an Nvidia as well. It would be interesting to see how much more could be gained on the P102 using this software, if proven safe to use.

[Regulater]

While ETHLargement may get you those rates, there are questions on its validity due to its closed source nature (unless I'm uninformed on it being verified as safe to use). But just to note, however, we could test the P102 on that as well and get the results from it as the card (P102) is an Nvidia as well. It would be interesting to see how much more could be gained on the P102 using this software, if proven safe to use.

P102 already has it implemented. P102 is more open to modification while 1080ti does not. Also really, your trying to state an already confirmed safe product is questionable. Literally you can break it down to view the code yourself if you have questions still on it. It has been confirmed many times to be authentic and i have been using it on all of my 1080tis since release as i trust the company releasing it. Sounds like you dont know much about mining, and are only posting here to try and make a profit by selling a product higher than the consumer grade version.

[Blockbrook]

While ETHLargement may get you those rates, there are questions on its validity due to its closed source nature (unless I'm uninformed on it being verified as safe to use). But just to note, however, we could test the P102 on that as well and get the results from it as the card (P102) is an Nvidia as well. It would be interesting to see how much more could be gained on the P102 using this software, if proven safe to use.

P102 already has it implemented. P102 is more open to modification while 1080ti does not. Also really, your trying to state an already confirmed safe product is questionable. Literally you can break it down to view the code yourself if you have questions still on it. It has been confirmed many times to be authentic and i have been using it on all of my 1080tis since release as i trust the company releasing it. Sounds like you dont know much about mining, and are only posting here to try and make a profit by selling a product higher than the consumer grade version.

For all intensive purposes under your comment, the P102 is what was implemented on the 1080TI through the ETHLargement pill. Rewording what I said earlier, it would be interesting to see what, if any, change would occur (though it may not be usable considering if it is the exact parameter changes then the change would essentially be the same). To be honest I haven't touched a 1080TI in a hot minute which is why I was unsure on the safety of the software. Alas, to each their own.

[Sevarchik]

Why buy 1 P102 when I can get 3x RX580s and significantly more returns? I don’t get the value proposition of this overpriced card...

there you busy 3 slot vs 1, who build rigs on many cards prefer to use one 1080Ti
and how we know there is patch avilalble for gddr5x memory

[remauto1187ma]

We seek deals, NOT full retail.  Whos benefiting from this "sale", It sure aint the buyers fronting the $$$ for these cards judging from the price.

[Blockbrook]

To be fair, this card is not full retail. If you could link me any other retail company based in the US, hell even in the world that can mail you a P102 for less than $830 after shipping and taxes I'd be shocked. Our competitors based out of HK are charging about $920 after taxes and shipping, and we have yet to find anyone in the US even selling these cards. This is a deal. If this were a normal product for a company like this we'd be out of business with how small our margins are on this card.

[abdullahsurati]

What drivers would be compatible with these? Coz Nvidia latest one doesn't support it and there is no listing on Zotac's website

[Blockbrook]

We have drivers that we will email out when purchased. It includes a windows 64 bit and a specific driver for the card itself as well.

[remauto1187ma]

To be fair, this card is not full retail. If you could link me any other retail company based in the US, hell even in the world that can mail you a P102 for less than $830 after shipping and taxes I'd be shocked. Our competitors based out of HK are charging about $920 after taxes and shipping, and we have yet to find anyone in the US even selling these cards. This is a deal. If this were a normal product for a company like this we'd be out of business with how small our margins are on this card.

The price will have to come down if nobody is buying.  Supply and Demand.  And we are waiting for 3 month ROI not 1.5yrs.

[Blockbrook]

Sure, the price on all gaming GPU's will come down another 15% to reach MSRP. At that price even with a 1080TI though unless you're heavily modding your ROI is still 11 months. Difficulty has risen almost 200% on all algorithms in the past 6 months. If you can show me a GPU that is at a 3 month ROI right now I'd be amazed. As much as it is great to remember the December bull run when 1080TI's were making $12 a day the fact of the matter is they make about $2, and the P102 is one of if not the most efficient GPU card on the market when at scale.

[remauto1187ma]

Sure, the price on all gaming GPU's will come down another 15% to reach MSRP. At that price even with a 1080TI though unless you're heavily modding your ROI is still 11 months. Difficulty has risen almost 200% on all algorithms in the past 6 months. If you can show me a GPU that is at a 3 month ROI right now I'd be amazed. As much as it is great to remember the December bull run when 1080TI's were making $12 a day the fact of the matter is they make about $2, and the P102 is one of if not the most efficient GPU card on the market when at scale.

Thats my whole point, there arent any that will ROI in 3months and thats why people are waiting and that is why literally any card can be bought new off the shelf with no wait unlike what was going on 3,4,5 months ago when everyone was lucky to score a couple a week.  Stock is all back in and now the retailers will have no choice but to drop prices SUBSTANTIALLY since miners are just not buying right now and the gamers are getting what they want and some are waiting for the new Nvidia to come out. Summer is here so electrical costs are going up sharply so that is directly coupled to all the grand scheme.  One big waiting game and Im playing...waiting.

On the other hand there is blood in the streets and many miners are selling off cards or their whole rig(s). Used cards can be had for a fairly decent price.  RX 580 $200-$235.  1080, 1070, etc... even there its a used buyers market too although alot of room to come down there too.

[Kryptowolf512]

Well, i think its really expensive. The cards dont have a great resell value.
I would rather pay 100-200$ more for a "normal" GTX 1080 Ti.