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June 09, 2018, 07:49:00 AM
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This mixing can do when you can mixed your coins in illegal way based on this it’s fully illegal to use also this types of things should fully prohibited because of this many people can suffer also based on this illegal issue people should leave this services and should aware of it.
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June 09, 2018, 08:13:32 AM
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There is no possible way to predict this. Mostly the mixing services are involved in illegal activiteies. Also, all mixers don’t work for illegal purposes.
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June 09, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
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there is absolutely no way of telling. only a mixing service can tell you that and that is only if they analyze the coins that come to them for mixing and this doesn't sound like something a mixing service should ever do. they shouldn't store any kind of data from their users either.
all we can say is that these services are using by both people who have dirty money and want to hide things and the average Joe who wants to increase their privacy.
Very well said. Theres no such thing of level or evil when it comes to this service yet even mixing services doesnt really tend to know on where those funds came from which same as you said they arent tending to track out any transactions and thats the nature of their business but as an owner we do see the risk behind it. Can we recall on what happened to Bitmixer? They do close out their service no matter which is the reason but there are rumors that it is been connected with illegal things which isnt really a surprising thing.

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June 09, 2018, 08:22:40 PM
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Based on this questions there are many things based on btc but there is no way to tell about this based on this only mixing department can suggest that price also based on this I don’t want that people can know about my information’s also so avoid things is better.
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June 09, 2018, 10:12:16 PM
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In what service is mixing used [Based on your personal use] or what is the general use of this service?
If we make a vote, what is the proportion of using this service in good and what is the ratio of evil?
Bitcoin transactions are all public so for people who wants to stay anonymous, they can use those mixing services and unfortunately this is also being used by criminals for them to avoid being traced. But no one can tell you this I think because if you will use this mixing services, you don't provide whether those coins comes from illegal activities or not and as far as I know mixing services don't save any data of transactions. But personally I think that if you are getting involved on illegal activities using cryptocurrency, why would you use Bitcoin that we all know that can possibly traced, if there are cryptocurrency that can be transacted truly anonymously.
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June 10, 2018, 05:24:49 AM
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There is no possible way to predict this. Mostly the mixing services are involved in illegal activiteies. Also, all mixers don’t work for illegal purposes.

Mixing service are only a service for mixing coins if ever you wanted to be extra anonymous but mixing service are not created or intended for any other illegal activites.

But for sure criminals including hackers , scammers , etc are already using these kind of service because they are the ones that are really conscious when it comes to privacy and anonymity.however , we can just always use coins like monero and other anonymous coins so that we can save our self from the hassel and other expenses from using a mixing service

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June 10, 2018, 03:12:16 PM
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In what service is mixing used [Based on your personal use] or what is the general use of this service?
If we make a vote, what is the proportion of using this service in good and what is the ratio of evil?
I have not used that service in my life and that is why I do not know much that why normal people are using that service. But it is in my mind that those people will use mixing service who will not allowed from their states for the use of bitcoin. They will mix their coins so that their governments cannot trace him from the address to the money to them.

Besides that there are those people using it who have something shady with their coins. They will want to mix bitcoin in address so not identified by anyone.

You forget something. How can a government know who us Bitcoin or not? Unless you receive a bank transfer from an exchange or similar it's the only way they can know. There is no need to trace an address either, who do you want them to know which address belong to who. If you send bitcoins to an exchange (i.e Bitstamp) and then sell your coins. You transfer your money to your bank account then, so here it is. If a bank/government see a transfer in coming from Bitstamp you can not say you don't use Bitcoin.
This is currently how people get their bank account locked by the bank.

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June 10, 2018, 04:01:46 PM
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we can just always use coins like monero and other anonymous coins so that we can save our self from the hassel and other expenses from using a mixing service

Using privacy focused coins only make sense when you buy them from a decentralized source. Buying these coins from an exchange is definitely a no-go, which basically means that they are worthless. It might sound harsh, but if you can't use such a coin because it's listed on a centralized exchange, there is nothing that coin can offer you aside from its speculative nature. Privacy focused coins belong on decentralized exchanges only, which for the major part isn't the case right now.

That's why I believe regulators outlawing them eventually (which will happen), will be the best ever development for these coins.

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June 10, 2018, 07:20:14 PM
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There is no possible way to predict this. Mostly the mixing services are involved in illegal activiteies. Also, all mixers don’t work for illegal purposes.

Mixing service are only a service for mixing coins if ever you wanted to be extra anonymous but mixing service are not created or intended for any other illegal activites.

But for sure criminals including hackers , scammers , etc are already using these kind of service because they are the ones that are really conscious when it comes to privacy and anonymity.however , we can just always use coins like monero and other anonymous coins so that we can save our self from the hassel and other expenses from using a mixing service
Its a inevitable thing! Criminal minds would definitely took this advantage or service to be used because they do know they can even more protect themselves of being caught and mixing service would be a great tool in that case thats why its normal to be included on illegal activities but not totally involved by mixing service itself.

We can use up monero but still most people would end up on accumulating Bitcoin in the end.

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June 10, 2018, 09:33:08 PM
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You forget something. How can a government know who us Bitcoin or not?
When Bitcoin turns into POS, the possibility of tracking coins will be great.
bitcoin remains connected to the global financial system "cash out process", So it is easy to check scam cases and track the transmissions "If stopped mixing services."




The question remains, Is mixing service, evil or appointed to crime?
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June 10, 2018, 11:55:06 PM
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I have always used coin mixing services for not-so-holy purposes.Mostly, I use it for transferring funds to my dreammarket account.After the interpol logging the messages of alphabay, I was too scared to use my personal bitcoin address at markets.
Yea, mixing service is mostly used for evil then for good.
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June 11, 2018, 03:22:32 AM
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I know theres no evidence but saying that it makes no sense is wrong because you know tainted coins from the darknet use mixers to hide their trail from the criminal source.

Having that said, other uses for mixers by users who are not criminals would be to hide wealth from the IRS or hide wealth from the wife which is worse than the IRS lol.
 
So? It still doesn't make sense. You think there are more "evil people" than good people mixing their coins. But who are you to say this? Where are your sources, research and/or data to corroborate with your "analysis"?

Saying that only criminals only use mixers is the same thing as saying that only criminals use Bitcoin. And we know as a fact that this is not true (p.s: an ACTUAL fact): Report: Less Than 1% of Bitcoin Used for Illegal Purposes

And please don't use the "they don't have anything to hide" bs excuse.

You are right. Maybe somene should closely look at all the Mixers' activities to start knowing from where the coins came from. But would I be lying if I say that a lot of them came from the darknet, from pedophiles, from drugs or money laundering?

What normal user would use mixer if he was not hiding something?

Having that said, your arguments are compromised because you are paid by Chipmixer to post in the forum.
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