[OFFICIAL POLL] QRK LOGO COMPETITION

[professorY]

Why is everybody only talking about Martijnp, he isn't the only one who cheated. I am sure the first four spots cheated as well.
He is just the only one who admitted. I dont think it's fair to disqualify Martijnp if others cheated too.
If Martijnp gets disqualified than everyone who cheated needs to be disqualified, not just the one who admitted...

Exactly. But how do you prove who did and who didn't cheat?

No matter what happens this all just looks really bad. General shadiness all around.

[martijnp]

Isn't it obvious? It's the cheaters that didn't tell they were cheating using shadow accounts bashing me!

[reRaise]

The voting should be between the participants themselves. Each of them should vote on a 1 to 10 scale to others who participated. Once everyone has voted, the one with the most votes wins.

[professorY]

The voting should be between the participants themselves. Each of them should vote on a 1 to 10 scale to others who participated. Once everyone has voted, the one with the most votes wins.

That's actually not a bad idea. Eliminates sock accounts and vote padding. The only people who can vote are the creators themselves, they cannot for their own design and have to rank every other design submitted. Then, at the end, a winner will emerge chosen by the artists themselves.

Obviously I'm just an observer and have no stake in this whatsoever, but I think that could actually be a good solution.

[tomthgrk]

The voting should be between the participants themselves. Each of them should vote on a 1 to 10 scale to others who participated. Once everyone has voted, the one with the most votes wins.

According to the game theory in this case noone will vote
If the voting is mandatory on a scale 1 to 10 then everybody will poll 1

[reRaise]

The voting should be between the participants themselves. Each of them should vote on a 1 to 10 scale to others who participated. Once everyone has voted, the one with the most votes wins.

According to the game theory in this case noone will vote
If the voting is mandatory on a scale 1 to 10 then everybody will poll 1

We can eliminated that everyone votes 1. In addition to voting they also must put a reason why they rated a logo low or high.
They won't get to see the results until the voting ends.

[reRaise]

The voting should be between the participants themselves. Each of them should vote on a 1 to 10 scale to others who participated. Once everyone has voted, the one with the most votes wins.

That's actually not a bad idea. Eliminates sock accounts and vote padding. The only people who can vote are the creators themselves, they cannot for their own design and have to rank every other design submitted. Then, at the end, a winner will emerge chosen by the artists themselves.

Obviously I'm just an observer and have no stake in this whatsoever, but I think that could actually be a good solution.

Exactly

[professorY]

The voting should be between the participants themselves. Each of them should vote on a 1 to 10 scale to others who participated. Once everyone has voted, the one with the most votes wins.

According to the game theory in this case noone will vote
If the voting is mandatory on a scale 1 to 10 then everybody will poll 1

Okay then, they have to rank every other entry out of however many entries there are and can only use each number once. If there are 20 entries, 20 rankings, lowest to highest.

[Ultimist]

If it's going to be the entrants doing the voting, there is a rather simple solution.

Every entrant gets one vote, but cannot vote for themselves.

Even if a couple of the entrants get together and conspire to vote for each other, that's only 1 vote each.

This would force the entrants to pick their favorite (besides their own), and the results would better reflect an actual winner.

[reRaise]

If it's going to be the entrants doing the voting, there is a rather simple solution.

Every entrant gets one vote, but cannot vote for themselves.

Even if a couple of the entrants get together and conspire to vote for each other, that's only 1 vote each.

This would force the entrants to pick their favorite (besides their own), and the results would better reflect an actual winner.

Great.
Do other entrants accept this? I think this is the fairest way. Would like to know what Flipro thinks about this.
Lets get it on

[Ultimist]

If it's going to be the entrants doing the voting, there is a rather simple solution.

Every entrant gets one vote, but cannot vote for themselves.

Even if a couple of the entrants get together and conspire to vote for each other, that's only 1 vote each.

This would force the entrants to pick their favorite (besides their own), and the results would better reflect an actual winner.

Great.
Do other entrants accept this? I think this is the fairest way. Would like to know what Flipro thinks about this.
Lets get it on

On second thought, everyone could just vote for what they thought was the "worst" logo (probably mine, lol) in the hopes of increasing their own vote percentage... and the worst one would end up winning...

Sigh, I don't know if there IS a solution.

[Ultimist]

It would be nice to hear from FlipPro on what he intends to do.

[FlipPro]

At this point I'm considering giving the entire donation to the QuarkCoin foundation.

I don't think anyone in the "rankings" deserves any reward.

Starting the contest over would be pointless since the community has said repeatedly it does not want or need a new logo.

I will update everyone here when I have reached a final decision…

[martijnp]

Ultimist: Would you still pick my designs as your personal favorite? (no need to answer!)

I guess what I'm trying to say is, based on everything that happened, it's likely a vote now is not only based on the quality of a design but also carries an emotional aspect behind it. It could very be that this will just be part of the deal. Nonetheless, it is something to consider!

Credits to all of you who keep the positive tone and try to finally turn this thing around!

[Zzzack]

At this point I'm considering giving the entire donation to the QuarkCoin foundation.

I don't think anyone in the "rankings" deserves any reward.

Starting the contest over would be pointless since the community has said repeatedly it does not want or need a new logo.

I will update everyone here when I have reached a final decision…

This is the best decision. I advise that you tell them to slowly use the Quarks too! If you tell them they can only use 20k a month, then we will have continual development - and lowers the risk that the funds are sunk on a bad project. If we could pay for a Quark --> USD payment processor, then this commodity would become a usable currency.

That said, I think some of the designs deserve a couple Quarks. If you give 2500 Quarks to your favorite 4 designs (and ignore the poll), then that would be a great choice. You would still be rewarding people a significant amount of our treasured coins and then the community could use the 4 different designs for different websites, apps, products.

(I really like Leigrecc's design)

[professorY]

At this point I'm considering giving the entire donation to the QuarkCoin foundation.

I don't think anyone in the "rankings" deserves any reward.

You're right of course, but it's too bad for the designers who didn't cheat and spent all of that time on their designs thinking they had a shot at 120,000 QRK. That sucks.

[Netnox]

At this point I'm considering giving the entire donation to the QuarkCoin foundation.

I don't think anyone in the "rankings" deserves any reward.

Starting the contest over would be pointless since the community has said repeatedly it does not want or need a new logo.

I will update everyone here when I have reached a final decision…

I think this is the best solution. There was a lot of cheating going on and i don't blame them. To be honest i would've done the same if i see that others are doing it.

Entrants voting for each other won't work because not every designer will be there. You need to go after every single of them to vote again and even if everyone votes, they could vote on a less nice design to higher their chance to win. Doing it all over again will make things worse. I also think the community would like to keep the original design.

[martijnp]

Pick 4 (or so) favorite designs. Let the designers form a logo/branding team for the foundation. The logo/branding team provides consistent graphical elements required for all Quark related projects under development. (Gradually) fund this logo/branding team with the 120k quark. Win-Win for the community and the designers being part of the team!

[quarkfx]

At this point I'm considering giving the entire donation to the QuarkCoin foundation.

I don't think anyone in the "rankings" deserves any reward.

Starting the contest over would be pointless since the community has said repeatedly it does not want or need a new logo.

I will update everyone here when I have reached a final decision…

I always pledged for a new vote, but I can understand your decision. Still, the debate of a professional QRK branding seems important to me, even if some community members (I don´t see a uniform statement from the community) prefer to stick with the old logo. I don´t know if its possible to gather our designers again. It would mean that people were willing to forgive, to forget and to start from scratch. We have lots of talented designers in our community which is a huge potential for Quark. It would be too bad if this potential was gone only because of this contest.

[feeler950]

At this point I'm considering giving the entire donation to the QuarkCoin foundation.

I don't think anyone in the "rankings" deserves any reward.

Starting the contest over would be pointless since the community has said repeatedly it does not want or need a new logo.

I will update everyone here when I have reached a final decision…

I always pledged for a new vote, but I can understand your decision. Still, the debate of a professional QRK branding seems important to me, even if some community members (I don´t see a uniform statement from the community) prefer to stick with the old logo. I don´t know if its possible to gather our designers again. It would mean that people were willing to forgive, to forget and to start from scratch. We have lots of talented designers in our community which is a huge potential for Quark. It would be too bad if this potential was gone only because of this contest.

You have sponsored designs. Some of which have already been adopted by the quark community.
Now you are tempted to renege on your promise of reward!

Get ready for a shitstorm of negative feedback. You should start a new account NOW!