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June 08, 2018, 06:16:35 PM
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There are many ICOs now that use AI as a catch word and other that are directly related to it like SKYCHAIN, AIOM, KOIOS and others.


I wanted to open this question because is something that amuses me and may become a reality in the future:

Imagine an scenario in which AI advances to the point that can become a member of the forum, do bounty hunt and earn its own crypto. Could we accept it? What rights would this entity have in our society and in the forum?

I am thinking that even a not really good one it could be better than many posters in the Alts section  Grin
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June 08, 2018, 06:34:05 PM
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If the AI is helpful, writes about interesting topics and starts challenging discussions I would even give merits ;-)

I think AI will become a central piece of our lives in the not so far future, so I wouldn't have any problems with an AI driven forum member.
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June 08, 2018, 08:46:22 PM
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Not happening in our lifetime, at least not in the "human replacement" capacity.

There is definitely a huge commercial push as businesses are starting to think they can replace some workers with AI but that speaks more to the mundanity of those jobs than the capabilities of AI. We are a lot further away from having an actual intelligent conversation with an AI entity than Google or Microsoft would like you to believe.

Nice try to plug the shitcoins, I'll give you that.
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June 09, 2018, 07:22:45 AM
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I worked on AI driven chatbots in my sparetime. If you believe it or not, you wont be able to distinguish some of those bots from a human being. Such bots are already used as first level supports in well known companies, so AI is already there, we just dont know it.
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June 09, 2018, 08:29:40 AM
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I mean there already are bots and no they don't tend to last long in forums.
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June 09, 2018, 08:37:12 AM
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I don't see any reason to decline as long as the AI isn't hostile, dangerous or manipulative. But i doubt there will be any true AI in our lifetime.

I mean there already are bots and no they don't tend to last long in forums.

Surely there's huge difference between bots and AI. Bot is hard-programmed while AI can improve itself over time.
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June 09, 2018, 09:59:09 AM
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If such an AI became a reality, it would be quite expensive and why should it be used just for bounty hunt. Just give it to government and let them earn their own money rather than taxing people. Cheesy
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June 10, 2018, 08:56:34 AM
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You're on to something here.

Consider this: Today, a non-human entity cannot legally own property. That includes money - fiat money.

Crypto is different because it's the first kind of money that does not distinguish between humans and non-humans. Thus, an AI can own money and pay for things. If you think about it, crypto is laying the groundwork for non-human entities to exist and thrive.

To answer your question directly, AI should be accepted and helped, IMO.
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June 10, 2018, 10:41:03 PM
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Not happening in our lifetime, at least not in the "human replacement" capacity.

There is definitely a huge commercial push as businesses are starting to think they can replace some workers with AI but that speaks more to the mundanity of those jobs than the capabilities of AI. We are a lot further away from having an actual intelligent conversation with an AI entity than Google or Microsoft would like you to believe.

Nice try to plug the shitcoins, I'll give you that.


I know there is plenty of hype about this, since Deep Blue and all that chess playing show IBM is just trying to use every buzzword, but there is also quite a bit of truth on the AI taking jobs:

"According to a 2015 report by the Nomura Research Institute, nearly half of all jobs in Japan could be performed by robots by 2035."
See here https://www.engadget.com/2015/12/04/robots-expected-to-run-half-of-japan-by-2035/

And this news https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38521403, a bit old I rekon, speaks of personnel that actually do intelectual very human work being replaced.

Perhaps we should be discussing the legal status of AIs and the Bill of AI rights.
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June 11, 2018, 10:53:31 AM
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I definitely think it could be accepted, however...

Having a human type AI with our intelligence or higher is potentially possible in the future. But why would it participate in a bounty? Why would it participate at all?

It would need to have a motive or some purpose for doing these things, which it might generate itself. But if someone gives it that motive, then perhaps it isn't exactly AI but something more like a bot Smiley
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June 11, 2018, 08:51:03 PM
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Not happening in our lifetime, at least not in the "human replacement" capacity.


I'm going to have to disagree with you there, given the quality of some of the posts in other parts of this forum, I'm not sure an AI would be noticeable. In fact if I recall there was an AI that managed to convince a forum it was human  (to be fair they didn't have a reason to suspect it was not)
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June 11, 2018, 11:17:07 PM
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it wouldn't be easy but if there is a chance for quality posts, why wouldn't i accept it. I would even give feedbacks and merit =)
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June 12, 2018, 05:14:53 AM
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Okay, I'm gonna reply sans reading the OP, commenting on only the wording of the title.

In answering, ONLY if the AI speaketh gooder english.
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June 12, 2018, 05:46:41 AM
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Yeah, that would be cool so long as it is known that it's an AI. It would be bad if the point came where everyone could use such a bot, and everybody posting is actually AIs talking to each other.
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June 12, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
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Yeah, that would be cool so long as it is known that it's an AI. It would be bad if the point came where everyone could use such a bot, and everybody posting is actually AIs talking to each other.

Then we'll have fights stemming from, "My dad's AI can kick your dad's AI's ass!" Accelerating to, "Oh yeah! Well, your mother was a human."
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June 12, 2018, 03:01:51 PM
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Actually there are some bots on this forum talking to each other and gaining activity.
Also theres an autoposter for Twitter and FB, so if you combine this two and fill out the rules of bounty (or teach to parse Bounty Rules)
you will have a AI for doing bounty
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June 12, 2018, 05:22:49 PM
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Yeah, that would be cool so long as it is known that it's an AI. It would be bad if the point came where everyone could use such a bot, and everybody posting is actually AIs talking to each other.

Then we'll have fights stemming from, "My dad's AI can kick your dad's AI's ass!" Accelerating to, "Oh yeah! Well, your mother was a human."

Lol, hopefully they will be programmed to be sophisticated with a focus on making the site more readable.
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June 12, 2018, 09:19:08 PM
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AI is a gimmick. It's more of a buzzword for computer algorithms that have always been there. It's software and it can only go as far as the hardware and software will take you. It cannot think in the infinite different ways that a human can, but I guess it can do a convincing job. But it's really just a computer running 0s and 1s.
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June 13, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
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I wonder if the notion of AI was the same 10 years ago or more. For example, would a chatbot be considered AI in the 1970's? These days around it would be mocked as an 'IF' statement.

When 'Neural Networks' weren't invented yet, what was considered AI? I don't remember the term being used as much as it has been lately, maybe it's because the press perceives recent developments with related technologies a breakthrough though. I wonder to what extent such notion would be true.

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June 14, 2018, 10:41:19 PM
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I wonder if the notion of AI was the same 10 years ago or more. For example, would a chatbot be considered AI in the 1970's? These days around it would be mocked as an 'IF' statement.

When 'Neural Networks' weren't invented yet, what was considered AI? I don't remember the term being used as much as it has been lately, maybe it's because the press perceives recent developments with related technologies a breakthrough though. I wonder to what extent such notion would be true.



AI is really a buzzword as of now, but I think that there may be some real breakthroughs in a few years regarding driverless cars, transport drones, etc... that do require artificial intelligence and particularly artificial vision analysis.

For example, when I have to solve the captcha to enter the forum I have to figure out what is a car, what is a sign, what is a sidewalk, etc... However, a Google car or any other make has to really figure that out by itself being a machine. Now that I think of it, they would probably be able to pass the first obstacle to get into the forum: Solving a captcha  Grin
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