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[cashclash]

Δυστυχώς τα ελληνικά μου δεν είναι καλά, ίσως κάποιος μπορεί να με βοηθήσει.

Ψάχνω για την τιμή της ηλεκτρικής ενέργειας στην Ελλάδα.
Πόσο είναι 20.000kW/h / σε Ευρώ;
Πόσο είναι 60.000kW/h / σε Ευρώ;

Υπάρχουν εναλλακτικές λύσες ή μόνο ΔΕΗ;

σας ευχαριστώ.

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Well, not sure if above made much sense in Greek, sorry i am trying to learn it (:
I went to the ΔΕΗ website to check Energy prices but i could not find a calculator and the PDF documents confused me, unfortunately everything is in Greek. I even emailed them but no reply yet. Calling them with +30 did not work either, must be some special in country only number.

If anyone of you guys would be so kind to let me know what prices i have to expect with 20000kW/h and if the kW/h changes since i am planing to upgrade to a consumption of around 60.000kW/h.
I was told that there is some sort of environment Tax, is that true and how do i calculate that?

Its been quiet a few years that i was in Greece but i used to travel there more often on a regular basis and i know what to expect from the infrastructure.
For now lets forget about the heat and the "real" bug problems that might fry boards, knowing what electricity costs would help me decide if its worth the move.

I appreciate any help i can get to sort this out and thanks for reading.

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[dj213]

Hello , i cannot tell you what will be the cost for that kind of electricity but i can give you an idea of how much Euros i have to pay for electricity on my house while mining with 2 kwatt/hour , i have to pay the DEH each month 300E including the TAX.You sould ask someone a civil engineer to best calculate the total ammount also you have to include the TAX and FPA.
  

[cashclash]

Hello , i cannot tell you what will be the cost for that kind of electricity but i can give you an idea of how much Euros i have to pay for electricity on my house while mining with 2 kwatt/hour , i have to pay the DEH each month 300E including the TAX.You sould ask someone a civil engineer to best calculate the total ammount also you have to include the TAX and FPA.
  

Thanks for the quote, is the FPA the environmental tax?

[antanst]

The official price list per kWh is here: http://www.dei.com.gr//Documents2/CUSTOMER%20SERVICE/%CE%A4%CE%99%CE%9C%CE%9F%CE%9B%CE%9F%CE%93%CE%99%CE%912013/%CE%931.pdf

As a rule of thumb, for your consumption rates, you'll pay 0,10252€/kWh, plus taxes and some extras. "FPA" is the generic tax applied to everything (be it a product or a service) that is sold in Greece.

Happy learning!

[PurpleTentacle]

FPA = VAT

[cashclash]

Guys thanks for the replies but there is still allot to be learned, since dj213 says 0,20 and antast has 0,10.

@antast, those PDF's is where my  journey started and they are still a mystery.
Whats the difference between "Ρυθμιζόμενες Χρεώσεις" (regulated Charges) and Ανταγωνιστικές Χρεώσεις (competitive Charges)?

dj213 tells me that a consumption of 2kW/h (~1488kW/h per Month) is EUR300 which would then be 1kW = ~EUR0,20.-

[antanst]

Guys thanks for the replies but there is still allot to be learned, since dj213 says 0,20 and antast has 0,10.

@antast, those PDF's is where my  journey started and they are still a mystery.
Whats the difference between "Ρυθμιζόμενες Χρεώσεις" (regulated Charges) and Ανταγωνιστικές Χρεώσεις (competitive Charges)?

dj213 tells me that a consumption of 2kW/h (~1488kW/h per Month) is EUR300 which would then be 1kW = ~EUR0,20.-

There isn't a simple formula, as in the electric bill there are multiple extras you pay irrelevant to your consumption, like the tax for the national television. dj213 tells you the final calculated price in his case, with the aforementioned added extras and taxes. The price I'm telling is the official consumer price without the taxes and the extras. It's complicated, yes :-)

[cashclash]

OK, thanks for the quick reply, now i wonder if the extras and taxes are fixed prices or do scale and increase with higher consumption?
You would make me pretty happy if you could provide some sort of formula to help me with my calculations.

[dj213]

Hello the extras and the taxes arenot fixed prices but neither scale, there is a complicate calculation ,because it envolves the location of the building (what is the price zone) ,if the town's population is larger than 1500 people, how much tax per building  the city hall wants,etc>>>...
Even we dont understand now days what we are paying for!!! 
 

[cashclash]

dj213 i got faint memories when i read this, it's now starting to make more sense now, thanks for the help guys

[chek2fire]

Hello the extras and the taxes arenot fixed prices but neither scale, there is a complicate calculation ,because it envolves the location of the building (what is the price zone) ,if the town's population is larger than 1500 people, how much tax per building  the city hall wants,etc>>>...
Even we dont understand now days what we are paying for!!! 
 

this is true

[lowbander80]

to make a calculation on how much money your miner spents its to devide the total kwh with the bill
the result is how much you pay.If run from a companies account Vat is compensated along with other expenses.
my calculation says its about 0,18 c
way too much from the US located miners and HA HA they complaning for not making ROI
for us then its a hobby.