Please make Vod , a moderator of btctalk or he will tarnish new sellers image.

[zephyr_designs]

Hello,

I never scammed anyone.
I am new here, i saw people were asking for loan.

Some were doing that without collateral, i too tried.

I read many -ve comments to my post.
So i myself deleted to topic. No one advised me or asked me to do.

Have i have scammed anyone ?
I asked for help in open board

But then this user from nowhere gives me -ve feedback after i have deleted topic by myself. I did not pm anyone asking money.
I just honestly said everything.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432283.0

I opened lending topic on 7th , i myself changed the tile to close on 7th after realising this is not the right way..
From nowhere this attention seeking guy gave me -ve feedback next day , i.e on 8th.

User which gave me -ve,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747
[I know he is old and big member, but i don't even know him]

So, for misusing the feedback i personally give him -ve feedback.

Look at this wannabe moderator,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747#newfeedback

Giving -ve feedback seems his pass time.

Nice work mate,
You added some more shit into my life.

Starting as a seller from -ve feedback is very tough.

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[jackg]

Is there somehow a rule you have to know someone for them to scam you.

Is there also somewhere an idea that potential scammers shouldn't be tagged. If you're going to start your journey here by trying to scam, GO AWAY AND DON'T COME BACK.

Also, wow you managed to delete a thread all by yourself, clearly anyone who scams and deletes the thread where they scammed should also have their negative trust removed then? NO!

[zephyr_designs]

Is there somehow a rule you have to know someone for them to scam you.

Is there also somewhere an idea that potential scammers shouldn't be tagged. If you're going to start your journey here by trying to scam, GO AWAY AND DON'T COME BACK.

Also, wow you managed to delete a thread all by yourself, clearly anyone who scams and deletes the thread where they scammed should also have their negative trust removed then? NO!

Sorry for my bad english, as its not my 1st language.
I didn't delete topic, i edited the title to "close".

This was done because i saw -ve replies to my post.
So , what's a definition of potential scammer?
This way i too see you as a potential scammer . so should i give -ve feedback ?

His feedback was given to me hours after i changed the title to close.

Read post clearly also checkout the topic link i gave you.

Anyone who wants to scam i guess won't tell u this,

Hello,

I need $500 as loan for setting my online webdesigner business.
I am a designer myself, need money to setup store and promote it.

Payment of $750 after 2 months. [Not guaranteed, but i will try my level best]
What if idea doesn't work ? I would pay you with my freelance earnings. or you could get templates designed from me. [Whichever you choose]


Thanks.

Not everyone is born with a golden spoon nor everyone is financially stable. The Web design agency i worked for closed down with no notice.
Thats why i came here trying to search for work. Been trying hard at many freelance forums but starting a freelancing journey with no feedback is tough.

Anyways, Vod can feel good about himself. Deep inside he knows , how lonely he is. I just went through google search. Found he has done it to many people. Some deserved it and some definitely didn't. But looking at his posting behaviour i know he is not a happy man.
Hope he finds peace in his life.

[hilariousetc]

Would you loan a stranger some money if they knocked on your door wearing a balaclava and asking for money? Would you deem that person trustworthy or not? I mean, they might pay it back but they probably won't. It's a similar situation here. Some people might have the best of intentions and have every intent to pay the money back but if they lose that money or are struggling to pay it back then most would just think fuck it, and leave never to return because there's absolutely no repercussions if they don't pay it back. I would think that the vast majority of people that ask for loans here without collateral wouldn't pay them back if they were given and that's why people leave feedback because they believe it to be very untrustworthy behaviour.

[Jet Cash]

We have a massive problem here with beggars, spammers, scammers and nuisance posters. Vod puts a lot of time and effort into trying to keep the board clean. As you can see, it a pretty thankless task, and I think the massive volume of red paint in his untrusted feedback is a tribute to the hard work he gives to this forum. I believe he has reversed a decision where he has misread an ambiguous situation, but that doesn't happen very often. There is a lot of social interaction here, but it is primarily a business based forum, and not a charity.

Many of us have had reversals in our lives, and how you handle these is a measure of you as a person. Begging or stealing is an admission of defeat, and a start on the road downwards.

[zephyr_designs]

Would you loan a stranger some money if they knocked on your door wearing a balaclava and asking for money? Would you deem that person trustworthy or not? I mean, they might pay it back but they probably won't. It's a similar situation here. Some people might have the best of intentions and have every intent to pay the money back but if they lose that money or are struggling to pay it back then most would just think fuck it, and leave never to return because there's absolutely no repercussions if they don't pay it back. I would think that the vast majority of people that ask for loans here without collateral wouldn't pay them back if they were given and that's why people leave feedback because they believe it to be untrustworthy behaviour.

All depends upon situations. If i have a feeling he is honest than i would help , if i think he is dishonest or something is cooking. I won't
But if i think he is lying , should i paint his face black ?

I had no problem with this guy posting in topic and alerting users.

But look what he writes in my feedback,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2026472

He doesn't suggest, he makes a statement without any proofs.
Anyways, karma will catch him.
Hope he gets *ucked up in situation worse than this. When someone frames him.

[zephyr_designs]

We have a massive problem here with beggars, spammers, scammers and nuisance posters. Vod puts a lot of time and effort into trying to keep the board clean. As you can see, it a pretty thankless task, and I think the massive volume of red paint in his untrusted feedback is a tribute to the hard work he gives to this forum. I believe he has reversed a decision where he has misread an ambiguous situation, but that doesn't happen very often. There is a lot of social interaction here, but it is primarily a business based forum, and not a charity.

Many of us have had reversals in our lives, and how you handle these is a measure of you as a person. Begging or stealing is an admission of defeat, and a start on the road downwards.

Begging and stealing situation doesn't define my situation.
I was asking for loan.

If mod/admins want my forum profile of other money making forum, i can provide.
Been there since 2011. Over 30+ feedback , no -ve.

Anyways, i am now relaxed. Its just the situation i am in makes me more frustrated. Its like when someone rubs salt on your wounds.

[TheUltraElite]

Begging and stealing situation doesn't define my situation.
I was asking for loan.

1.You asked for a loan without a collateral and without any prior trade history.
2.You also made an offer of paying back by giving your lender free service of designing. Future payments are not accepted as collateral.
3.You did not read the "No Collateral = No Loan" thread.

If mod/admins want my forum profile of other money making forum, i can provide.

Of course you can do whatever you want. That does not mean you can make money.

Been there since 2011.

3months - Date Registered:April 12, 2018

Over 30+ feedback , no -ve.

wut?

Anyways, i am now relaxed. Its just the situation i am in makes me more frustrated. Its like when someone rubs salt on your wounds.

You can get rid of the feedback if you actually acted like a grownup and talked to Vod in personal - then applied for removal of feedback after some months. Vod would have forgiven you since you "Would" have redeemed (Sort of)

But what you have done is sent him retaliatory feedback. Thus you can be sure the rating will never be removed. So enjoy your "wounds".

[zephyr_designs]

30+ feedback, registered since 2011, I was talking about other forum.

Read the paragraph completely.
I won't apologise, I just wanted to voice my opinion about that situation.
Gaining feedback is easy for service provider. Even if i provide free banners , i would gain many feedbacks. That's not a point.

Just to make you understand,
Suppose you sell something that is not allowed here. [ can be anything]
You realise after few hours that its not allowed. So you yourself close the topic.

Now will you like, if a person will give you -ve feedback a day later for your mistake which you already corrected ?

[zephyr_designs]

I know he is an old member.
He definitely has some good friends here. [One farts and everyone smells]

[hilariousetc]

All depends upon situations. If i have a feeling he is honest than i would help , if i think he is dishonest or something is cooking. I won't
But if i think he is lying , should i paint his face black ?

But how do you know he isn't just good at trying to convince you that he's trustworthy? If you make a habit of giving strangers money it's only a matter of time before you're going to get scammed. And yes, if someone is likely lying or being dishonest then appropriate feedback should be considered.

If mod/admins want my forum profile of other money making forum, i can provide.
Been there since 2011. Over 30+ feedback , no -ve.

If you have a lot of trust or feedback on other accounts on other websites then you should have provided info about them as that could have helped you. You may have even been able to use them as collateral.

[Silent26]

What exactly do you mean with this "-ve" thing? I'm sorry but I don't really get it.

Look at this wannabe moderator,

Vod is not a wanna be moderator. In fact we are grateful that he is cleaning up some of this Forum's mess even though he's not a moderator.

I know he is an old member.

Yeah, that's why he is more trusted than you.

By the way, I feel sorry for your account. But it seems like Vod is the only one who has the right to remove your Negative Feedback (It is if he's gonna remove it for a valid reason).

[zephyr_designs]

That's it for me in this topic.
Discussions won't pay my rent or feed my family.

Have a peaceful and mercyful day everyone. Only God will judge.

[digaran]

Only God will judge.

God would say to avoid asking for a loan with no collateral on a forum where somebody like Vod has DT2 status.

[Vod]

Only God will judge.

Actually, this time, it is Vod that judged.  Reality is knocking...

[hilariousandco]

What exactly do you mean with this "-ve" thing? I'm sorry but I don't really get it.

I'm assuming it means negative, but I have no idea why people don't just write negative. I've seen numerous people get confused by it.

[jackg]

This was done because i saw -ve replies to my post.
So , what's a definition of potential scammer?
This way i too see you as a potential scammer . so should i give -ve feedback ?

If you wish to give me negative feedback then sure. But that's not really much use to anyone. You couldn't go round and give everyone a negative (I mean you could but it would be worthless) instead, someone with no background or experience here has just asked for a loan, I have done neither of these. If I asked for a loan now, I'd be known around the forum a bit so someone mimght make an offer based on anything I'd done, but I may also myself end up with a neg if I do not provide any valid collateral/security.

His feedback was given to me hours after i changed the title to close.

You still tried to get a loan which is a potential to scam.
 

Anyone who wants to scam i guess won't tell u this,

Hello,

I need $500 as loan for setting my online webdesigner business.
I am a designer myself, need money to setup store and promote it.

Payment of $750 after 2 months. [Not guaranteed, but i will try my level best]
What if idea doesn't work ? I would pay you with my freelance earnings. or you could get templates designed from me. [Whichever you choose]


Thanks.

Yeah they will they'll try anything in order to get a loan. This is the general scam tend. I have given out about three loans like this in the past and you can guess everyone I have given those loans to have defaulted and I haven't seen any of thos funds back again (I don't want interest, I just want back what's rightfully mine).

Not everyone is born with a golden spoon nor everyone is financially stable. The Web design agency i worked for closed down with no notice.
Thats why i came here trying to search for work. Been trying hard at many freelance forums but starting a freelancing journey with no feedback is tough.

Maybe you could try to go to the marketplace and start to find a few jobs you can do for people (remember to use escrow so they don't scam you).

Anyways, Vod can feel good about himself. Deep inside he knows , how lonely he is. I just went through google search. Found he has done it to many people. Some deserved it and some definitely didn't. But looking at his posting behaviour i know he is not a happy man.
Hope he finds peace in his life.

MOST deserve it. I don't think he's lonely or sad, he certainly doesn't appear that way to me.

What exactly do you mean with this "-ve" thing? I'm sorry but I don't really get it.

I'm assuming it means negative, but I have no idea why people don't just write negative. I've seen numerous people get confused by it.

It means negative. And it's faster to write.

Only Vod will judge.

Actually, this time, it is Vod that judged.  Reality is knocking...

Sorry, just had to do that...

[hilariousandco]

It means negative. And it's faster to write.

What, by 0.8 seconds?

[Joel_Jantsen]

It means negative. And it's faster to write.

What, by 0.8 seconds?

-0.4 seconds if you use Grammarly. I mean you just have to write 'negive' and it auto-corrects it. #JustSaying   

[jackg]

It means negative. And it's faster to write.

What, by 0.8 seconds?

-0.4 seconds if you use Grammarly. I mean you just have to write 'negive' and it auto-corrects it. #JustSaying   

So now we're somehow against efficiency here?

And it depends on how quickly you type.