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August 21, 2018, 02:03:19 AM
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I don't think it's fully manipulated, but I'm almost sure whales should take part in certain manipulation, of course, IMO.
Agree I also think so, I don't think that prices are forever or fully manipulated by the whales, maybe at some time the price is normal,
and I think manipulation is not an easy thing especially with a very large marketcap like in bitcoin market, of course the whales will have difficulty manipulating..
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August 21, 2018, 08:25:05 PM
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I don't think it's fully manipulated, but I'm almost sure whales should take part in certain manipulation, of course, IMO.
Agree I also think so, I don't think that prices are forever or fully manipulated by the whales, maybe at some time the price is normal,
and I think manipulation is not an easy thing especially with a very large marketcap like in bitcoin market, of course the whales will have difficulty manipulating..

I'm with you, guys. I don't think the whales are capable of manipulating the entire market either. But I think they are trying hard and even might be through this forum by having their slaves type misleading posts to scare traders/hodlers off BTC.
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August 21, 2018, 09:00:48 PM
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Virtually nobody can manipulate the price of bitcoin. However, in practice, we see that periodically such control takes place. We must agree that the December increase in the price of bitcoin to $ 20,000 was possible with the participation of joint actions of whales. Those who have at their disposal a lot of crypto currency, can fully calculate the consequences of their specific actions to buy or sell significant quantities of crypto currency. This, by the way, we can say on the example of the actions of Mt. Gox from Japan, which by three batches of bitcoins of about six thousand, put up for sale on the market, completely lowered its rate.

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August 22, 2018, 01:08:32 AM
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Some altcoin and token that has low cap is easy to manipulate the price by whales but for Bitcoin that has highest cap will be difficult to manipulate it. Since BTC tradeable in 2011 the price already has high volatility, been going up 10 to 20 times just a few month but also going down to 90%. Now we should learn more from historical price of Bitcoin to predict when best times to buy and when best times to sell it.

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August 22, 2018, 11:54:23 PM
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I think price includes a lot of factors and many of those factors are beyond the control of a particular group of people. Thus, although price could be (and sometimes is) manipulated, but not 100% manipulated.
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August 25, 2018, 02:38:23 PM
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Whales can not be purchase off a week. They need to keep cost near with down and  to made a visibility stagnation.  In this moment they have a small purchase.
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August 25, 2018, 05:55:58 PM
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The price for crypto currencies is controlled only by people, since they determine the demand. I think that there are no conspiracies and in fact everything is much simpler and lies on the surface. Most likely the prices will start to rise again in September.
Some time it become out of the control of the ordinary people, but the big whales get control over it. I think that we need to take care and should prevent ourselves from the net of such whales, whose aim is only to trap the small fishes and swallow them whole.
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September 18, 2018, 04:47:04 PM
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For me yes. As an opinion and smart guess about what was happening on the market right now. Maybe because of Mining companies that was entering in the industry since the crypto industry before has a few miners there are small supply of volume are provided but since the BTC became popular because of its value more and more companies are entering the industry to get also a supply that causes increase of supply of BTC in high demand of people.
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September 19, 2018, 04:22:55 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

There are people who are manipulating the market price because they want to invest a huge amount in order to earn more profit when the market starts to pump up again in the future.
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September 19, 2018, 06:15:18 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

There are people who are manipulating the market price because they want to invest a huge amount in order to earn more profit when the market starts to pump up again in the future.

Whale is doing that. Those people that has higher capital or bought the coins  at a discounted price with a huge amount of coins. It happened to majority of coins base on my opinion  but as the distrubution is widely spread, I think we minimize this kind of scheme.
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September 19, 2018, 08:30:52 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

There are people who are manipulating the market price because they want to invest a huge amount in order to earn more profit when the market starts to pump up again in the future.

Actually, I don't think it was manipulated since the price of bitcoin is decentralized but in some possible situation it can be due to those big whales or investors as they can managed the value. Also, it some point those small investors will be affected of their huge losses in times of decreasing and may have a great amount of profit in times of increasing and I believe it may happen in the future though we don't have any idea when it may happen.
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September 19, 2018, 09:09:59 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

There are people who are manipulating the market price because they want to invest a huge amount in order to earn more profit when the market starts to pump up again in the future.

Actually, I don't think it was manipulated since the price of bitcoin is decentralized but in some possible situation it can be due to those big whales or investors as they can managed the value. Also, it some point those small investors will be affected of their huge losses in times of decreasing and may have a great amount of profit in times of increasing and I believe it may happen in the future though we don't have any idea when it may happen.
No one can really manipulate or control the whole market whales and institutional investors are just a large portion of the market merely around 50% to 60% and the other are the massive small time trader, holder and individual investor. Therefore, the manipulation takes place on our decision if we buy or sell a particular coin and which also affects the market.

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September 19, 2018, 10:27:36 AM
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Talking about the cryptocurrency manipulation, it's the whales, they're the big guys. This kind of people exist in the government and in other businesses as well.
Another kind of manipulators, people that their actions affects the market are the popular guys with much followers, even when they lie most people believe them.

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September 19, 2018, 11:22:26 AM
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Another kind of manipulators, people that their actions affects the market are the popular guys with much followers, even when they lie most people believe them.

Not all probably,

I Agree with some popular Crypto media people getting paid just to broadcast or create a fud

however experienced traders were also not dumb following it, like cnbc.. lol Cheesy

they just used it to make profit also

Whales, mafias, groups, etc.. they are there, get used to it

And used them to make a profit
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September 25, 2018, 10:16:09 AM
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I think closing the registrations of exchanges was not because of the manipulation, simply it was too many newbies in the same time. But surely there are manipulations in crypto, the market still need to grow.


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September 29, 2018, 07:19:14 PM
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I don't think that the price is fully manipulated. But I think that events that cause serious market movement, usually caused by manipulation and then goes panic movement.
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September 29, 2018, 07:59:27 PM
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depending on what kind of coin it is. if the question concerns bitcoin, I'm sure that the price of bitcoin is 100% manipulated.

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September 29, 2018, 10:59:29 PM
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Their is no doubt that in the cryptocurrency , prices are manipulated by the whales and the big guys that have a lot of funds but for the exchange registrations, its not related to price manipulation as they couldn't keep up with the registrations
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September 29, 2018, 11:11:25 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

It is hard to tell that the market is manipulated due to many aspects to be considered in every cryptocurrency value. So speculating the manipulation on the market is not a good idea if we want the price to go up because investors might think that they are just used by the whales to leverage on their investments.

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September 29, 2018, 11:29:34 PM
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I think the price of bitcoin is not affected or manipulated because the price of bitcoin can only have the movement of buyers and sell that makes the price of bitcoin look like manipulation.
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