4dice.io - Unique Provability Fair System - BTC - LTC - BCH - ETH + FAUCET

[bitverts.io]

http://4dice.io/template/default/4dice.png

Currently in beta to test the new system and it's behaviour.

At 4Dice.io we are trying to create something unique so everyone is sure of the outcome on the dice rolls, so we created something different that is currently in testing that is why the website show BETA.

Before each roll you receive an encrypted SHA1 string that contains a Secret Key-RolledNumber-JackpotType, that means the roll number is already predefined before you even click roll dice so there is no way for anyone to cheat.

After each bet ended you can verify its integrity as the server will show you the string unencrypted so if you run a SHA1 on it you will see it was the exact string it was given at the beginning.

Secret Key Can only be found at the end of each roll
RolledNumber Is the number rolled by the dice
JackpotType Is an integer as following:

if 0 No Jackpot Won;
If 1 Miny Jackpot Won; Chance of 1:30000
If 2 Mega Jackpot Won; Chance of 1:300000
If 3 Super Jackpot Won; Chance of 1:5000000

The Jackpot can be won no matter of the outcome of the roll Win or Loose, you can only earn a Jackpot if you are betting 0.00000100 or Higher

In the next update we will include chat room and a few others

Register and play here: http://www.4dice.io/

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[carlfebz2]

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Would you mind adding up a kind of registration where you can directly play without the need of email registration?

I do saw its still on Beta phase and no single bet been made,been wondering if its cleared bet history or havent been tested before. Uniqueness? Im looking for that when i do access the site the thing i do found is have a 3 different sets of Jakpots which is new but not really give out to have interest on playing.

[bitverts.io]

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Would you mind adding up a kind of registration where you can directly play without the need of email registration?

I do saw its still on Beta phase and no single bet been made,been wondering if its cleared bet history or havent been tested before. Uniqueness? Im looking for that when i do access the site the thing i do found is have a 3 different sets of Jakpots which is new but not really give out to have interest on playing.

We will consider adding that too via an unique url.<Br><br>

Are you checking all bets section? as bets are made even now.

Look at the fairness system, that is unique in a way that nobody can acuse the website of cheating users and using fake inputs as the bet itself it predefined before you click roll.

Regards

[carlfebz2]

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Would you mind adding up a kind of registration where you can directly play without the need of email registration?

I do saw its still on Beta phase and no single bet been made,been wondering if its cleared bet history or havent been tested before. Uniqueness? Im looking for that when i do access the site the thing i do found is have a 3 different sets of Jakpots which is new but not really give out to have interest on playing.

We will consider adding that too via an unique url.<Br><br>

Are you checking all bets section? as bets are made even now.

Look at the fairness system, that is unique in a way that nobody can acuse the website of cheating users and using fake inputs as the bet itself it predefined before you click roll.

Regards

Its not actually unique but this thing is must for a gambling site and its good you considered to show up fairness towards into your players but when it comes to feature i dont see anything new here when in regards to the game itself.Im not discouraging up but you should really mind on, on how you gonna be better on the recent dice sites in the market as of now if you do really like to get a marketshare with gambling industry but well Goodluck into your site. Btw i would like to suggest to add up a little bit more design or just some color on the site instead on having only a white background.

[bitverts.io]

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Would you mind adding up a kind of registration where you can directly play without the need of email registration?

I do saw its still on Beta phase and no single bet been made,been wondering if its cleared bet history or havent been tested before. Uniqueness? Im looking for that when i do access the site the thing i do found is have a 3 different sets of Jakpots which is new but not really give out to have interest on playing.

We will consider adding that too via an unique url.<Br><br>

Are you checking all bets section? as bets are made even now.

Look at the fairness system, that is unique in a way that nobody can acuse the website of cheating users and using fake inputs as the bet itself it predefined before you click roll.

Regards

Its not actually unique but this thing is must for a gambling site and its good you considered to show up fairness towards into your players but when it comes to feature i dont see anything new here when in regards to the game itself.Im not discouraging up but you should really mind on, on how you gonna be better on the recent dice sites in the market as of now if you do really like to get a marketshare with gambling industry but well Goodluck into your site. Btw i would like to suggest to add up a little bit more design or just some color on the site instead on having only a white background.

Sure any feedback is welcomed, with time it will be improved of course. I made it because a lot of people played it on bitverts.io main website so having i separately and work on features especially for it will be good for the future of it

[poloneix]

Looks Interesting ,, I Will Try, When I Have The Fund

[arisatox]

Can you sign addresses showing the funds you have for each coin? What are the maximum win amounts for each coin? What is the minimum bet to hit the jackpots?

[bitverts.io]

Can you sign addresses showing the funds you have for each coin? What are the maximum win amounts for each coin? What is the minimum bet to hit the jackpots?

Hello,

As we use an unique system from bitcrate we don't have one address so i can't show you the full amount of each coin. Maximum bet for btc for example is 0.01 for the moment. You need to play with at least 0.00000100 in order to win any jackpot

Regards

[NLNico]

Before each roll you receive an encrypted SHA1 string that contains a Secret Key-RolledNumber-JackpotType, that means the roll number is already predefined before you even click roll dice so there is no way for anyone to cheat.

After each bet ended you can verify its integrity as the server will show you the string unencrypted so if you run a SHA1 on it you will see it was the exact string it was given at the beginning.

In theory, you can just always return "jackpot 0" and never let anyone win a jackpot. Also in theory, if a player has a specific play pattern (for example: under 2x), you could generate outcomes that make the player lose (and obviously in theory, if you would do that, a player could abuse that as well.)

Anyway, basically for a real provably fair mechanism, you should require input from the player like a clientseed (after the player gets the hashed serverseed already.) The end result and jackpot is then calculated with both seeds.

[bitverts.io]

Before each roll you receive an encrypted SHA1 string that contains a Secret Key-RolledNumber-JackpotType, that means the roll number is already predefined before you even click roll dice so there is no way for anyone to cheat.

After each bet ended you can verify its integrity as the server will show you the string unencrypted so if you run a SHA1 on it you will see it was the exact string it was given at the beginning.

In theory, you can just always return "jackpot 0" and never let anyone win a jackpot. Also in theory, if a player has a specific play pattern (for example: under 2x), you could generate outcomes that make the player lose (and obviously in theory, if you would do that, a player could abuse that as well.)

Anyway, basically for a real provably fair mechanism, you should require input from the player like a clientseed (after the player gets the hashed serverseed already.) The end result and jackpot is then calculated with both seeds.

"Also in theory, if a player has a specific play pattern (for example: under 2x), you could generate outcomes that make the player lose"
 ( the outcome of the dice is predefined before you go to the next bet or set the new bet amounts, so the system won't be able to know if for example you stop and go all in for the next bet as the roll has been already determined ), the jackpot is purely random as you can see people that dind't played the minimum amount already won some but didn't credited because of it.

I know i already have the algorithm for that, but i said to try something new where you get the input before you click bet so you know nothing influence it.  If the beta doesn't end properly we can always switch the a client/server seed and that's it, but as i saw on other website some people still acuse websites of cheating.

[BTCevo]

I just checked on your site and what I saw that it is pretty simple design but it is pretty good way to bet. But there is "i" words besides the jackpot which is supposed can be clicked but I can't click it anyway. And about your automatic bets, maybe you can give us more variances so players can change their strategy as they want. Last question, how much is the max bet or max payout?

[NLNico]

"Also in theory, if a player has a specific play pattern (for example: under 2x), you could generate outcomes that make the player lose"

( the outcome of the dice is predefined before you go to the next bet or set the new bet amounts, so the system won't be able to know if for example you stop and go all in for the next bet as the roll has been already determined ),

Yes, so the idea is that if I bet "under 50" all the time, you will keep making a result higher than 50. Of course if you do this in such a clear way, the player could abuse this by betting above 50 with a bigger bet. So I do not think you are doing this, but it is a potential flaw in your system. Other provably fair mechanisms don't have this flaw.

the jackpot is purely random as you can see people that dind't played the minimum amount already won some but didn't credited because of it.

Sure thing... but we, the players, cannot prove that. Ideally the jackpot is calculated in a provably fair way. Still shared jackpots/bonuses almost never can be properly provably fair because the site can fake to be a winner.. but still some clear public calculation is better than "just random".

.. as i saw on other website some people still acuse websites of cheating.

Some people will always complain. But this is about being really provably fair. So you can ensure that the player can verify their bets and know that the result was generated in a way that the site couldn't influence the outcome. Currently the site can influence the outcome (eg make sure no one wins the jackpot ever or try to predict next rolls based on betting patterns.)



edit: to be clear. I do not think you are cheating the players at all I am just giving feedback and think you should improve your provably fair implementation to be better and IMO if you want to call it provably fair at all. GL with your site

[bitverts.io]

"Also in theory, if a player has a specific play pattern (for example: under 2x), you could generate outcomes that make the player lose"

( the outcome of the dice is predefined before you go to the next bet or set the new bet amounts, so the system won't be able to know if for example you stop and go all in for the next bet as the roll has been already determined ),

Yes, so the idea is that if I bet "under 50" all the time, you will keep making a result higher than 50. Of course if you do this in such a clear way, the player could abuse this by betting above 50 with a bigger bet. So I do not think you are doing this, but it is a potential flaw in your system. Other provably fair mechanisms don't have this flaw.

the jackpot is purely random as you can see people that dind't played the minimum amount already won some but didn't credited because of it.

Sure thing... but we, the players, cannot prove that. Ideally the jackpot is calculated in a provably fair way. Still shared jackpots/bonuses almost never can be properly provably fair because the site can fake to be a winner.. but still some clear public calculation is better than "just random".

.. as i saw on other website some people still acuse websites of cheating.

Some people will always complain. But this is about being really provably fair. So you can ensure that the player can verify their bets and know that the result was generated in a way that the site couldn't influence the outcome. Currently the site can influence the outcome (eg make sure no one wins the jackpot ever or try to predict next rolls based on betting patterns.)



edit: to be clear. I do not think you are cheating the players at all I am just giving feedback and think you should improve your provably fair implementation to be better and IMO if you want to call it provably fair at all. GL with your site

Hey, teoretically yes you have a point there although having that complicated bet pattern recognize ( should require a few bets to even have a base to start from ) is not too good either as it is still the human factor involved like you could stop out of a sudden and change your mind   of course i will notice how the beta goes and the feedback then we shall see what to change on it.

I am glad you think that as it is true just made it so people can play it outside bitverts, and have a website that can create it's own profit and standalone features with time.

Regards

[bitverts.io]

Hello,

Almost #1.000.000 Rolls and counting

Regards

[veleten]

you have a typo in your announcement its Mini (in jackpot) not miny
first impressions:
the site doesn't have a certificate? my FF shows that the connection is not secure
there is no affiliate system,deposits do not work for me at all-no addy to copy (maybe I'm missing something)
faucet claimed successfully- 100 satoshi every 3 minutes
the house edge is 2%,which is not competetive at all
no FAQ of any kind,no information about min deposits/withdrawal figures,no max win limit etc.
other than that-simplistic design,autobet with the minimal amount of features,but functional and working ok
four crypto currencies to choose from,cannot test if all are working properly,obviously
all in all-a decent looking new site with many things to be working on
ah and the question of the bankroll-do you have any proof of funds?

[bitverts.io]

you have a typo in your announcement its Mini (in jackpot) not miny
first impressions:
the site doesn't have a certificate? my FF shows that the connection is not secure
there is no affiliate system,deposits do not work for me at all-no addy to copy (maybe I'm missing something)
faucet claimed successfully- 100 satoshi every 3 minutes
the house edge is 2%,which is not competetive at all
no FAQ of any kind,no information about min deposits/withdrawal figures,no max win limit etc.
other than that-simplistic design,autobet with the minimal amount of features,but functional and working ok
four crypto currencies to choose from,cannot test if all are working properly,obviously
all in all-a decent looking new site with many things to be working on
ah and the question of the bankroll-do you have any proof of funds?

Hello,

We will add the certificate to the dashboard / login / register part, there is no use for certificate on the index page.

Affiliate none for the moment but we are working on some as it is connected to bitverts it is more complicated than that.

2% but in reality is 1% as 1% goes to the jackpot pools, indeed it sounds but that is the truth.

F.A.Q. will be available soon too.

What do you mean you can't have an address to deposit did you clicked deposit?

We have bankroll from bitverts

Regards

[veleten]

you have a typo in your announcement its Mini (in jackpot) not miny
first impressions:
the site doesn't have a certificate? my FF shows that the connection is not secure
there is no affiliate system,deposits do not work for me at all-no addy to copy (maybe I'm missing something)
faucet claimed successfully- 100 satoshi every 3 minutes
the house edge is 2%,which is not competetive at all
no FAQ of any kind,no information about min deposits/withdrawal figures,no max win limit etc.
other than that-simplistic design,autobet with the minimal amount of features,but functional and working ok
four crypto currencies to choose from,cannot test if all are working properly,obviously
all in all-a decent looking new site with many things to be working on
ah and the question of the bankroll-do you have any proof of funds?

Hello,

We will add the certificate to the dashboard / login / register part, there is no use for certificate on the index page.

Affiliate none for the moment but we are working on some as it is connected to bitverts it is more complicated than that.

2% but in reality is 1% as 1% goes to the jackpot pools, indeed it sounds but that is the truth.

F.A.Q. will be available soon too.

What do you mean you can't have an address to deposit did you clicked deposit?

We have bankroll from bitverts

Regards

yes I did and it returned a blank field -there was nothing displayed



no address displayed and the Deposit button is inactive
i.e. you cannot press it and it doesn't change on hover etc.
not sure why is that,I'm using FF latest if it helps you
and thank you for the answers

[stomachgrowls]

you have a typo in your announcement its Mini (in jackpot) not miny
first impressions:
the site doesn't have a certificate? my FF shows that the connection is not secure
there is no affiliate system,deposits do not work for me at all-no addy to copy (maybe I'm missing something)
faucet claimed successfully- 100 satoshi every 3 minutes
the house edge is 2%,which is not competetive at all
no FAQ of any kind,no information about min deposits/withdrawal figures,no max win limit etc.
other than that-simplistic design,autobet with the minimal amount of features,but functional and working ok
four crypto currencies to choose from,cannot test if all are working properly,obviously
all in all-a decent looking new site with many things to be working on
ah and the question of the bankroll-do you have any proof of funds?

Hello,

We will add the certificate to the dashboard / login / register part, there is no use for certificate on the index page.

Affiliate none for the moment but we are working on some as it is connected to bitverts it is more complicated than that.

2% but in reality is 1% as 1% goes to the jackpot pools, indeed it sounds but that is the truth.

F.A.Q. will be available soon too.

What do you mean you can't have an address to deposit did you clicked deposit?

We have bankroll from bitverts

Regards

yes I did and it returned a blank field -there was nothing displayed



no address displayed and the Deposit button is inactive
i.e. you cannot press it and it doesn't change on hover etc.
not sure why is that,I'm using FF latest if it helps you
and thank you for the answers

It cant really be clicked since you havent put up the amount youd wish to deposit. The image or amount show on btc is just on their default 0.003 btc but those values arent there which you do need to type into that input bar thats the time you can click that deposit button just like on my ss:

[veleten]

I see,wasn't very noob friendly 
I saw the numbers in the input field and didn't bother to put a value manually
it is working alright,just have to put in the amount you want to deposit and the addy is displayed

[bitverts.io]

I see,wasn't very noob friendly 
I saw the numbers in the input field and didn't bother to put a value manually
it is working alright,just have to put in the amount you want to deposit and the addy is displayed

we will see how we can improve it on another note, someone won the super jackpot