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June 14, 2018, 06:10:20 AM
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What happened:
Five days ago, user tobericher (=the victim) deposited 16 Bitcoin to BITMIXCOIN.IO (=the scammer).
A few hours later, escrow zazarb announced that he returned the 5 Bitcoin escrow he was holding for Bitmixcoin.
Yesterday, user tobericher posted for the first time, claiming his email about his 16 Bitcoin deposit was ignored by Bitmixcoin.
Today, tobericher emailed me his Letter of Guarantee, which I've verified to be authentic. I can confirm he sent 16 Bitcoin to Bitmixcoin's deposit address, and never received his mixed coins.

Scammers Profile Link:
BITMIXCOIN.IO

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Start reading from here

Amount Scammed:
16 Bitcoin, but if this is an exit scam, the total will go up much more. They claimed their weekly mixed amount was around 2500 Bitcoin.

Payment Method:
Bitcoin

Proof of Payment:
In my posession, verified by me, confirmed by Vod and confirmed by Lutpin.

Additional Notes:
The timing looks very much like an exit scam: wait until a big deposit comes in, take back the escrowed amount, and stop withdrawals.
If this is a technical glitch, please send the funds to the right address and I'll confirm that here.
It's not a technical glitch, scammer BITMIXCOIN.IO denies having received the deposit.

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I didn't trust them from the start, but there was no evidence yet Sad

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June 14, 2018, 08:31:52 PM
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I do hope that this is not an exit scam simply because of the fact that there will likely be many more victims that will have to suffer as a result, and the amounts are going to end up being extremely big.

However, the correlation between the time when escrow is withdrawn by Bitmixcoin, and when the 16 BTC deposit was essentially delayed for 5+ days with apparently no competent support is too good to be a coincidence. The whole escrow thing by zazarb may have just been a thing done to falsely gain trust of people, since what good is that if they are able to withdraw that 5 BTC escrow at any time?

I think that we should give Bitmixcoin some more time to respond, though, before labelling this as a scam. But 4 days already elapsed since the deposit of the victim, so it goes without saying that it's safer to just not use their service at all for the time being.

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June 14, 2018, 08:41:46 PM
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I think that we should give Bitmixcoin some more time to respond, though, before labelling this as a scam.
Agreed. But until they respond, my red trust serves at a warning, and I'd gladly remove it if things are sorted out.

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But 4 days already elapsed since the deposit of the victim, so it goes without saying that it's safer to just not use their service at all for the time being.
Hence my red warning.

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June 18, 2018, 12:35:22 PM
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ChipMixer employee publish scam accusations on us, how surprising...

We never scammed anyone you can take your bullshit accusations somewhere else.
Post an evidence or begone to chipmixer.

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June 18, 2018, 02:58:50 PM
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ChipMixer employee publish scam accusations on us, how surprising...
I'm not an employee of ChipMixer, and my signature has nothing to do with this. Then again, you know that already.

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We never scammed anyone you can take your bullshit accusations somewhere else.
Post an evidence or begone to chipmixer.
It's not my call to publish the Letter of Guarantee.

Proof of Payment:
In my posession, if tobericher allows it I'll ask escrow zazarb to confirm it too.
I haven't heard back from tobericher anymore, so I've asked Vod if I can forward the Letter of Guarantee to him to confirm the scam.

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June 18, 2018, 03:00:34 PM
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Please publish the letter of guarantee, which pretty easily can be manipulated or faked.

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June 18, 2018, 03:15:41 PM
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Please publish the letter of guarantee, which pretty easily can be manipulated or faked.
Please enlighten me how to fake a Bitcoin signed message.

Just in case, let me archive your address 1BiTmixiWvteyHDNC8oZ9H2DvQFU7GwQPp :
https://web.archive.org/web/20180618152100/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2165755.140
https://web.archive.org/web/20180618152139/https://bitmixcoin.io/start.php

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I have read the letter of guarantee so I can confirm that an address posted by bitmixcoin.io was sent 16+ btc.

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June 19, 2018, 07:49:35 PM
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If I remember correctly their plan was absolutely different and suddenly owner changed it. He waa claiming that escrow would grew from 10 bitcoin to 100 bitcoin once they become famous. But he got escrow back and claimed they were famous and it wasn't needed.
There is no doubt it's an exit scam, they just won in time too, no one looks everytime what's happening in their ANN thread.

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June 20, 2018, 05:22:09 PM
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If I remember correctly their plan was absolutely different and suddenly owner changed it.
I'm pretty sure an exit scam was the plan all along.

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He waa claiming that escrow would grew from 10 bitcoin to 100 bitcoin once they become famous. But he got escrow back and claimed they were famous and it wasn't needed.
He also claimed to have 2500 Bitcoin, but refused to sign a message to prove any of it.

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There is no doubt it's an exit scam, they just won in time too, no one looks everytime what's happening in their ANN thread.
I'll just keep bumping this thread until he's at -64 or deeper. I've seen people get much more red much faster for much less.


Another victim:
I am missing coins too.

My ~0.03 BTC I tumbled yesterday evening haven't been sent to the deposit address.
I did use their service previously without any problems.

I have sent my letter of guarantee to LoyceV to verify.

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June 20, 2018, 08:05:01 PM
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I like how on the thread, they say that it's because LoyceV is an employee of Chipmixer (which isn't even the case) that he is somehow just creating all this drama, while completely disregarding the fact that the relevant proof is there and verified.

Safe to say that looking from their attitude alone, this is probably just an exit scam and they're trying to prolong the lifespan of it by getting in as many deposits as possible.

Claiming that they haven't received anything while there is evidence verified by both Vod and LoyceV is almost comical.

But anyways, be safe out there. Plenty of scam mixers, and always make sure you research on the newest reviews before you use any mixer.

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June 20, 2018, 08:22:44 PM
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Bitmixer's clone took back escrowed funds because they gained "enough trust" and they stole 19BTC. Well played.

I hope they will return money, but that probably won't happen because they said they never received bitcoins.
This community has to wake up.

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June 20, 2018, 08:26:05 PM
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We fixed everything with the user, LoyceV,  Good luck working with chipmixing.


This thread is nothing.

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June 20, 2018, 08:29:08 PM
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We fixed everything with the user
It's easy for you to say, but would you provide some proof of that, or ideally have the user themselves confirm that?

Please publish the letter of guarantee, which pretty easily can be manipulated or faked.
Sorry, you're saying it is easy to spoof/fake PGP (or in your case bitcoin) signed messages?



If the above statement by bitmixcoin.io is wrong and you still need someone to tag their account, forward the letter of guarantee to me.

Little piece of advice here, btw: You are not building a strong image for your brand with the way you talk.
I'd expect something better from a public representative for a service supposedly trusted with several thousand btc each week.



Disclaimer: I have a working relationship with bitblender.io, my opinions are my own, and you can insult me for either of those two things as much as you like.


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June 20, 2018, 08:33:38 PM
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We fixed everything with the user
It's easy for you to say, but would you provide some proof of that, or ideally have the user themselves confirm that?



If the above statement by bitmixcoin.io is wrong and you still need someone to tag their account, forward the letter of guarantee to me.

Little piece of advice here, btw: You are not building a strong image for your brand with the way you talk.
I'd expect something better from a public representative for a service supposedly trusted with several thousand btc each week.

The user will connect and verify our claims, The chipmixer employee just was looking for an option to roost us.

I can promise you, after the user will verify our claims still no one will remove our negative feedbacks.

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June 20, 2018, 08:43:45 PM
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We fixed everything with the user
It's easy for you to say, but would you provide some proof of that, or ideally have the user themselves confirm that?
It's the typical scammer: pretending there's nothing wrong, hoping for another victim.
The receiving address is still empty. No surprise there.

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Please publish the letter of guarantee, which pretty easily can be manipulated or faked.
Sorry, you're saying it is easy to spoof/fake PGP signed messages?
It kinda depends on his mood:
It is so funny, all of your replies you're trying to make us look bad and in the first opportunity you're jumping and accusing us.
Sure, let's ignore the signed message that proves 16 Bitcoin disappeared.
Please publish the letter of guarantee, which pretty easily can be manipulated or faked.
We generate digitally signed proof (Letter of Guarantee) for every order. So when you send us bitcoins to be mixed, you have a proof that incoming address has truly been generated by our server.
Cheesy funny guy Cheesy
if it is easily manipulated or faked, why would you use this signed message method as a "Letter of Guarantee" in the first place?



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If the above statement by bitmixcoin.io is wrong and you still need someone to tag their account, forward the letter of guarantee to me.
Done! Please confirm here.

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Little piece of advice here, btw: You are not building a strong image for your brand with the way you talk.
I'd expect something better from a public representative for a service supposedly trusted with several thousand btc each week.
It sounds just like any other busted scammer on this site.

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June 20, 2018, 09:00:34 PM
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We fixed everything with the user,

We haven't received those 16 bitcoins.

I don't get it. You fixed everything even thought you didn't receive 16 bitcoins. Nah, I still don't get it.

Did you or did you not receive 16 bitcoins from user?

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June 20, 2018, 09:07:52 PM
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We fixed everything with the user,
We haven't received those 16 bitcoins.
I don't get it. You fixed everything even thought you didn't receive 16 bitcoins. Nah, I still don't get it.
Did you or did you not receive 16 bitcoins from user?
They did, according to the letter of guarantee I have been forwarded.
I've verified said letter (was expecting a PGP, but apparently they only use bitcoin signed messages, meh),
and the deposit address signed in that letter has received a ~16BTC transaction over a week before bitmixcoin.io claimed to NOT have received the btc.



I can confirm, the user deposited 16BTC to an address signed by bitmixcoin.io and the funds have not yet reached to target destination also signed by bitmixcoin.io


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June 20, 2018, 09:11:16 PM
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We fixed everything with the user,
We haven't received those 16 bitcoins.
I don't get it. You fixed everything even thought you didn't receive 16 bitcoins. Nah, I still don't get it.
Did you or did you not receive 16 bitcoins from user?
They did, according to the letter of guarantee I have been forwarded.
I've verified said letter (was expecting a PGP, but apparently they only use bitcoin signed messages, meh),
and the deposit address signed in that letter has received a ~16BTC transaction over a week before bitmixcoin.io claimed to NOT have received the btc.



I can confirm, the user deposited 16BTC to an address signed by bitmixcoin.io and the funds have not yet reached to target destination also signed by bitmixcoin.io

The user has told us to deposit to other address via email, for security reasons we wont reveal this address.
We asked the user to connect and verify it.

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June 20, 2018, 09:12:57 PM
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I can confirm, the user deposited 16BTC to an address signed by bitmixcoin.io and the funds have not yet reached to target destination also signed by bitmixcoin.io
Thanks, please tag him.

The user has told us to deposit to other address via email, for security reasons we wont reveal this address.
We asked the user to connect and verify it.
I call BS.

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