Why so many Antminer Z9 Mini for pre-resell on Ebay?

[inagaddadavida]

Just noticed a large number of these on Ebay for sale (June & Aug ) batches... just wondering what might be the reason...

[ltcsprite]

What's the problem?

People flipping them.

[SpceGhst]

Because they realized they can make more flipping them than mining with them...

[inagaddadavida]

Because they realized they can make more flipping them than mining with them...

Its a new device... that makes no sense...
1st batch is $1000 with PSU... so, flipping it for $1500 is better than mining? 

[melpheos]

Because they realized they can make more flipping them than mining with them...

Its a new device... that makes no sense...
1st batch is $1000 with PSU... so, flipping it for $1500 is better than mining?  

1st batch was not $1000
It was $1999
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180503154806494uGcSyiu806FD

Mother fucking flipper are putting pre order for august batch with their margin. They are middle men for idiots who don't know they can buy directly from bitmain at a lower cost
Example :
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=332680682812&category=179171&pm=1&ds=0&t=1528988900675

But if people are stupid enough to purchase a used product with almost no guarantee that will have a ROI even longer than a GPU and that will kill the network, why not profit of their stupidity ? Right ?

[inagaddadavida]

Because they realized they can make more flipping them than mining with them...

Its a new device... that makes no sense...
1st batch is $1000 with PSU... so, flipping it for $1500 is better than mining?  

1st batch was not $1000
It was $1999
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180503154806494uGcSyiu806FD

Mother fucking flipper are putting pre order for august batch with their margin. They are middle men for idiots who don't know they can buy directly from bitmain at a lower cost
Example :
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=332680682812&category=179171&pm=1&ds=0&t=1528988900675

But if people are stupid enough to purchase a used product with almost no guarantee that will have a ROI even longer than a GPU and that will kill the network, why not profit of their stupidity ? Right ?

Ok then... even for Aug shipment... do these asic miners not even make $200 over ROI? what's the point even making them....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BITMAIN-Antminer-Z9-mini-10k-Sol-s-300-W-Zcash-ASIC-Miner-Pre-order-Aug/113058989927?hash=item1a52d74767:g:55IAAOSwJ7dbIONS

[treanski]

because people on ebay are retarded/greedy and pay moon prices

[makerain]

because people on ebay are retarded/greedy and pay moon prices

MAte you such a COCK.. calling everyone greedy because you have no money to buy things..what a TOTAL idiot you are same shit over and over again.. you must be so young..

Anway mate...

They sell the Z9 to WASH the bitcoin without paying TAX.

Buy z9 with BTC and sell for $$$ .. easy money laundering.

[actuallytwolamas]

because people on ebay are retarded/greedy and pay moon prices

MAte you such a COCK.. calling everyone greedy because you have no money to buy things..what a TOTAL idiot you are same shit over and over again.. you must be so young..

Anway mate...

They sell the Z9 to WASH the bitcoin without paying TAX.

Buy z9 with BTC and sell for $$$ .. easy money laundering.

And how is that money laundering? You get $$$, so you have to pay taxes.

[lunobird]

because people on ebay are retarded/greedy and pay moon prices

MAte you such a COCK.. calling everyone greedy because you have no money to buy things..what a TOTAL idiot you are same shit over and over again.. you must be so young..

Anway mate...

They sell the Z9 to WASH the bitcoin without paying TAX.

Buy z9 with BTC and sell for $$$ .. easy money laundering.

And how is that money laundering? You get $$$, so you have to pay taxes.

People sell stuff on eBay all day long and very few report those garage sell earnings

[inagaddadavida]

because people on ebay are retarded/greedy and pay moon prices

MAte you such a COCK.. calling everyone greedy because you have no money to buy things..what a TOTAL idiot you are same shit over and over again.. you must be so young..

Anway mate...

They sell the Z9 to WASH the bitcoin without paying TAX.

Buy z9 with BTC and sell for $$$ .. easy money laundering.

I guess that could make sense..... question is I guess, are these asic miners worth buying and what is an expected life from one...

[yrk1957]

because people on ebay are retarded/greedy and pay moon prices

MAte you such a COCK.. calling everyone greedy because you have no money to buy things..what a TOTAL idiot you are same shit over and over again.. you must be so young..

Anway mate...

They sell the Z9 to WASH the bitcoin without paying TAX.

Buy z9 with BTC and sell for $$$ .. easy money laundering.

And how is that money laundering? You get $$$, so you have to pay taxes.

After you pay tax, the remaining is legitimate money, hence laundered.

[smoolae]

Normal people try to earn some quick money from novice buyers on eBay. Happens with a lot off things - they snipe some product(s) that get sold out really quick and later resell those items for a premium.

[actuallytwolamas]

because people on ebay are retarded/greedy and pay moon prices

MAte you such a COCK.. calling everyone greedy because you have no money to buy things..what a TOTAL idiot you are same shit over and over again.. you must be so young..

Anway mate...

They sell the Z9 to WASH the bitcoin without paying TAX.

Buy z9 with BTC and sell for $$$ .. easy money laundering.

And how is that money laundering? You get $$$, so you have to pay taxes.

After you pay tax, the remaining is legitimate money, hence laundered.

Lol, I get it now, when wrote the answer, thought about a different thing.

[mattstyle]

Why did Bitmain close their twitter account?  THe z9 batch info is gone...

[i_like_bits]

Why did Bitmain close their twitter account?  THe z9 batch info is gone...

Too much negative publicity during z9 launch while they're gearing up for a massive IPO.

[yrk1957]

Why did Bitmain close their twitter account?  THe z9 batch info is gone...

Too much negative publicity during z9 launch while they're gearing up for a massive IPO.

It’s just suspended procedurally, so should be up soon:

https://mobile.twitter.com/nishantsharma87/status/1007213985651818497

[mattstyle]

Why did Bitmain close their twitter account?  THe z9 batch info is gone...

Too much negative publicity during z9 launch while they're gearing up for a massive IPO.

It’s just suspended procedurally, so should be up soon:

https://mobile.twitter.com/nishantsharma87/status/1007213985651818497

OK I see that now..  I also see someone on ebay selling these z9 mini's for 3100 -- sold 8 already.. crazy..

so is it better to mine or flip!?  I sold 12, 250 coupons on ebay today within an hr.. crazy fast sale. only got $70 each.. maybe not such a great deal for me but I was just going to let them expire.

[shibob]

I think there's some problems with this miner, there's no reason that a solid miner like Z9 could be cheap as 850 USD.
 
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=000201806050936438836vKVHwmM06C8

[warrior333]

I heard that some buyers have problems with customs clearance of mining equipment due to lack of certificate of conformity. Perhaps these sellers have solved the problem with customs clearance and now want to make money on it. Agree with me that if you bought the goods and can not get it you will pay more. Soon will the second party and income will be reduced.