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February 13, 2014, 07:27:52 AM
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I used both 2 service of this guy. (pozin, dice)

I withdrew btw from dice service 2 days ago. But they don't send me any coin.

And also where's ponzi? Now there's no realtime ponzi service in insdice.us .

I send a message to this guy. But there's nothing.

Don't send btc to this guy. totally scam
If ins is a liar , do you think he will answer you ? So obviously not ! Grin
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February 13, 2014, 07:29:47 AM
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He's doing great.With the new site he can pay the people from the previous one and also get a lot of new investments.Really it'll be great for all.

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February 13, 2014, 07:41:19 AM
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He's doing great.With the new site he can pay the people from the previous one and also get a lot of new investments.Really it'll be great for all.

No, it won't be. 

It won't be great for the people who will be out 120% what you guys are out now.

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February 13, 2014, 07:42:56 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.

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February 13, 2014, 08:13:55 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.

As I've said over and over and over again, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to "work" unless he pays everyone out of his own pocket (which he's not going to do).  The deficit will continue to grow and grow and more and more people will be out money.  There is NO WAY around this.  The longer it goes, the more people who will ultimately lose.

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February 13, 2014, 08:32:27 AM
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As long as there are new investments everything will turn in its place.And there are even more ways to generate new incomes.So,as I've said,we'll see.

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February 13, 2014, 08:36:17 AM
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As long as there are new investments everything will turn in its place.And there are even more ways to generate new incomes.So,as I've said,we'll see.

So your thought process is that there is an infinite amount of money?

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February 13, 2014, 08:37:30 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.
As I've said over and over and over again, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to "work" unless he pays everyone out of his own pocket (which he's not going to do).  The deficit will continue to grow and grow and more and more people will be out money.  There is NO WAY around this.  The longer it goes, the more people who will ultimately lose.


There is a way of making it go forever.

Add a % chance that you loose when you deposit + reduce the % of gain depending of the queue time.

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February 13, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.
As I've said over and over and over again, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to "work" unless he pays everyone out of his own pocket (which he's not going to do).  The deficit will continue to grow and grow and more and more people will be out money.  There is NO WAY around this.  The longer it goes, the more people who will ultimately lose.


There is a way of making it go forever.

Add a % chance that you loose when you deposit + reduce the % of gain depending of the queue time.



Reducing the % of gain doesn't matter because the queue time will always increase.

Eating random deposits would make it a non-ponzi, it would make it a dice game...which he already runs.

Anything that would be able to run long term would have to pay out, overall, less then 100%, because it has to take IN more then it is paying OUT.  Anything that isn't able to run long term (ie a ponzi) pays out less then 100% because everyone at the end loses their deposits.  It's always going to be a lose-lose, there is no way to ensure that everyone will always get a positive return, because there is a finite amount of money in the world.

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February 13, 2014, 09:26:08 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.

As I've said over and over and over again, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to "work" unless he pays everyone out of his own pocket (which he's not going to do).  The deficit will continue to grow and grow and more and more people will be out money.  There is NO WAY around this.  The longer it goes, the more people who will ultimately lose.

correct but we know it and the ones who participating are aware of the possibility to lose. if we lose at the end of a ponzi( we sure dont know when the end will be) thats fine for me  (because it is kind of a strategic skill game) but if we get ripped of at the start then I cal it scam.

just my 2 cents
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February 13, 2014, 09:26:55 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.
As I've said over and over and over again, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to "work" unless he pays everyone out of his own pocket (which he's not going to do).  The deficit will continue to grow and grow and more and more people will be out money.  There is NO WAY around this.  The longer it goes, the more people who will ultimately lose.
There is a way of making it go forever.
Add a % chance that you loose when you deposit + reduce the % of gain depending of the queue time.
Reducing the % of gain doesn't matter because the queue time will always increase.
Eating random deposits would make it a non-ponzi, it would make it a dice game...which he already runs.

It's neither a ponzi, neither a dice game. It mix both.
The first to play get more gain like a normal ponzi but as time goes, the % of gain adjust to ensure deposit don't take too long.
Plus there is a chance of loosing like a dice-game.
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February 13, 2014, 09:43:45 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.

As I've said over and over and over again, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to "work" unless he pays everyone out of his own pocket (which he's not going to do).  The deficit will continue to grow and grow and more and more people will be out money.  There is NO WAY around this.  The longer it goes, the more people who will ultimately lose.

correct but we know it and the ones who participating are aware of the possibility to lose. if we lose at the end of a ponzi( we sure dont know when the end will be) thats fine for me  (because it is kind of a strategic skill game) but if we get ripped of at the start then I cal it scam.

just my 2 cents

I'm not talking to the people who know that it's an unsustainable system, I'm talking to the people who say things like "it's great for all!" or "I believe it's going to work" or who are crying because they lost money.  If you understand the risks involved, and are comfortable making money as the direct result of other people losing money money...that's on you.  But if you think that this is some sort of magical free money machine, I've got other news for you...

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February 13, 2014, 09:44:46 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.
As I've said over and over and over again, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to "work" unless he pays everyone out of his own pocket (which he's not going to do).  The deficit will continue to grow and grow and more and more people will be out money.  There is NO WAY around this.  The longer it goes, the more people who will ultimately lose.
There is a way of making it go forever.
Add a % chance that you loose when you deposit + reduce the % of gain depending of the queue time.
Reducing the % of gain doesn't matter because the queue time will always increase.
Eating random deposits would make it a non-ponzi, it would make it a dice game...which he already runs.

It's neither a ponzi, neither a dice game. It mix both.
The first to play get more gain like a normal ponzi but as time goes, the % of gain adjust to ensure deposit don't take too long.
Plus there is a chance of loosing like a dice-game.

You are now creating a hypothetical game.  That isn't what is going on here.  This is a straight ponzi with the amount of money owed to people growing every day.

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February 13, 2014, 09:50:28 AM
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I'm not talking to the people who know that it's an unsustainable system, I'm talking to the people who say things like "it's great for all!" or "I believe it's going to work" or who are crying because they lost money.  If you understand the risks involved, and are comfortable making money as the direct result of other people losing money money...that's on you.  But if you think that this is some sort of magical free money machine, I've got other news for you...

and are comfortable making money as the direct result of other people losing money money...that's on you.

what do you think from whom you will win in any casino you visit and gamble? from the owner? if you think like this  I 've got other news for you Smiley
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February 13, 2014, 09:58:08 AM
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Let's wait and see what he will do.I believe it's gonna work because he's trying to do it as best as possible.
As I've said over and over and over again, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to "work" unless he pays everyone out of his own pocket (which he's not going to do).  The deficit will continue to grow and grow and more and more people will be out money.  There is NO WAY around this.  The longer it goes, the more people who will ultimately lose.
There is a way of making it go forever.
Add a % chance that you loose when you deposit + reduce the % of gain depending of the queue time.
Reducing the % of gain doesn't matter because the queue time will always increase.
Eating random deposits would make it a non-ponzi, it would make it a dice game...which he already runs.
It's neither a ponzi, neither a dice game. It mix both.
The first to play get more gain like a normal ponzi but as time goes, the % of gain adjust to ensure deposit don't take too long.
Plus there is a chance of loosing like a dice-game.
You are now creating a hypothetical game.  That isn't what is going on here.  This is a straight ponzi with the amount of money owed to people growing every day.

I know, it is just an idea I had but if Ins could get inspired why not ?
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February 13, 2014, 10:01:11 AM
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I'm not talking to the people who know that it's an unsustainable system, I'm talking to the people who say things like "it's great for all!" or "I believe it's going to work" or who are crying because they lost money.  If you understand the risks involved, and are comfortable making money as the direct result of other people losing money money...that's on you.  But if you think that this is some sort of magical free money machine, I've got other news for you...

and are comfortable making money as the direct result of other people losing money money...that's on you.

what do you think from whom you will win in any casino you visit and gamble? from the owner? if you think like this  I 've got other news for you Smiley

Yes, the house books the bets in casino pit games.  Obviously they make far more then they lose, because the odds are in their favor, but if you win money you win from the house, not from the other people at the table.  You winning and someone else losing, even at the same game, are two unique situations that are independent from each other.  In a ponzi, the ONLY way you can make money is if someone else loses money.  And the only way for THEM to make money is if someone else loses money.  Ect ect until there are no more suckers to be found.  It is a dependent situation.

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February 13, 2014, 10:08:33 AM
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I'm not talking to the people who know that it's an unsustainable system, I'm talking to the people who say things like "it's great for all!" or "I believe it's going to work" or who are crying because they lost money.  If you understand the risks involved, and are comfortable making money as the direct result of other people losing money money...that's on you.  But if you think that this is some sort of magical free money machine, I've got other news for you...

and are comfortable making money as the direct result of other people losing money money...that's on you.

what do you think from whom you will win in any casino you visit and gamble? from the owner? if you think like this  I 've got other news for you Smiley

Yes, the house books the bets in casino pit games.  Obviously they make far more then they lose, because the odds are in their favor, but if you win money you win from the house, not from the other people at the table.  You winning and someone else losing, even at the same game, are two unique situations that are independent from each other.  In a ponzi, the ONLY way you can make money is if someone else loses money.  And the only way for THEM to make money is if someone else loses money.  Ect ect until there are no more suckers to be found.  It is a dependent situation.

partly agree but lets take poker, baccarat dice etc you take from other gamblers and again Itell you if other gamblers dont lose they couldnt pay winners and would close down.

I am not looking for a new pope here
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February 13, 2014, 12:16:13 PM
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Hello Ins!

When will the ponzi.pw start working? I see that site (excepting /users/) is already finished.

Have a nice day! Smiley
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February 13, 2014, 12:31:03 PM
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So do I get my money back what I sent to 120% ponzi?
If not then this is scam because I sent them to 120% and you did change it to 105% and thats why deposites stopped.

And yes I know how ponzi work, someone lose, but I would got them back if no change to %. (I was 9th in queue)

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February 13, 2014, 02:05:54 PM
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I am sure once the op gets enough from you guys he will run, is not enough yet, he is waiting for the millions.  I am very sure of it.

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