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February 07, 2014, 10:43:32 PM |
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Hi Zzzack,
I think there was a time when you believed in WDC, so as i did. Now it would be interesting to know in what you think would be worth to invest. I'm looking at altcoins since a couple of weeks now and already made some stupid mistakes.
Currently i'm holding a bag of WDC, IFC and EAC. Currently i'm only in profit with WDC and IFC as i bought them quite cheap. I'm not sure what will happen with EAC, but i guess it can't get much worse as it is now. If i dump my EAC bag i will lose with pain.
I'm looking at NetCoin since some days and don't know if i should get some. The price is low and it doesn't seem to fall much more. So i think it could go up. But i thought the same with some other coins and finally lost.
I'm not going to invest any money in all the other brand new coins, as i'm getting sick of all that shit.
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xodianbarr
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February 07, 2014, 10:54:08 PM |
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@xodianbarr,
What is your advice for us (bagholders)? Try to be honest
You may not be interested in mine either... but: Diversify your current bag, wait for WDC to hit a new low price. If it looks like a good opportunity then, put your money back in. At this point, with all the fear and uncertainty (and lack of a timeline for the future), WDC isn't worth the 9 million $ its priced at. Although I am only investing (serious investments, not my high risk/high return ones) in coins with foundations similar to the WDCF +1 |
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Jomppe
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February 07, 2014, 11:02:40 PM |
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When the price stabilizes 0.077-0.100 BTC levels, I am able to sell a few for you guys who desire the stability.  |
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hellscabane
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February 07, 2014, 11:38:45 PM |
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When the price stabilizes 0.077-0.100 BTC levels, I am able to sell a few for you guys who desire the stability. Quite the optimist eh? So you're valuing WDC at $2.5B? Any particular reasons, fundamentals, etc? Just curious. |
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sumantso
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February 08, 2014, 12:21:13 AM |
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While i really hope it wont, i suspect it probably will in the short term. What with the situation concerning Scharmbeck i expect the price will be adversely affected for a while.
~~ Xodianbarr ~~
Pretty much what I feel. |
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February 08, 2014, 06:34:07 AM |
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And now there are a bunch of new kids on the block that haven't had UNOS,51%,Scambeck. Might want to get out while you can, there are plenty of other "better options now". How much things change in a month.
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Jomppe
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February 08, 2014, 09:06:10 AM |
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When the price stabilizes 0.077-0.100 BTC levels, I am able to sell a few for you guys who desire the stability. Quite the optimist eh? So you're valuing WDC at $2.5B? Any particular reasons, fundamentals, etc? Just curious. Actually it can go even higher than that. The ones who have balls to buy the coin these days and hold it will be fiilthy rich. The relation is obviously based on the two major arguments: 1) The relationship between minted Worldcoins and bitcoins is around 0.077. 2) WorldCoin is technically more advanced than bitcoin (faster full transactions) These two factors will playout such that the people, once they realize WorldCoin, will throw their bitcoins to get even tiny bits of this gemstone. |
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February 08, 2014, 10:39:59 AM |
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Greed is out of control and as I look at posters profiles in the Alt section it seems they are All from Dec 2013 lol...
Greed is always the same, just more scammers getting attracted to Coins. Plus, really: Scharmbeck is offering 500 BTC for something? You really believe he will pay out 500 BTC? C'mon, you can't be serious. At least this text looks to me that they are looking only for greedy "customers" (I'd call them sheeps). lol That bounty will never leave Scharmbeck. |
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February 08, 2014, 04:05:21 PM |
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Could this company be any more of a joke? What professional company creates a lottery with it's shares (none in the history of the stock market)? What professional company releases no formal statement on the internal affairs of it's members. Instead we have to rely on:
A ) A twitter post that ends up being pulled
B ) The fallout of the dispute being posted in an IRC channel
Are you fucking kidding me? In what world is this acceptable?
If this stock exchange (crypto-stocks) was based in America, Scharmbeck would be reeking with SEC violations. How convenient that it's not.
I've been a supporter of WDC since the very beginning, and I have never been more disgusted. These people are RUINING this coin with their un-professional behavior, and their un-abashed treatment of their shareholders. Makes me fucking sick to my stomach.
The core developer of WDC is running this shit show. I honestly don't want to be a part of WDC anymore. It is an un-professional, childsplay of crypto-currency. Congratulations on taking one of the greatest technologies ever created, and shitting all over it.
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February 08, 2014, 05:08:10 PM |
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Globalcoin is the alternative. No scams, just growth.
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xodianbarr
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February 08, 2014, 05:57:53 PM |
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Because of the amount of questions relating to Scharmbeck that people have, and the total lack of communication there is to be had from them, i decided to write a topic to try and answer some of the questions people have. I realise that there are probably more than a few questions that may have been missed, but you are more than welcome to reply to the topic with your questions and i shall do my best to answer them for you. http://worldcoinforum.org/topic/1358-scharmbeck-q-a/~~ Xodianbarr ~~ |
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February 08, 2014, 06:05:38 PM |
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My position regarding 'Scharmbeck'. I used to work for the Worldcoin Foundation. 3 of the board members decided to develop Scharmbeck. I did not approve of the relationship regarding Scharmbeck and the Foundation. I found it 'unwholesome' - so i quit.
~~ Xodianbarr ~~
You said you quit because you found "the relationship regarding Scharmbeck and the Foundation. I found it 'unwholesome' - so i quit." but infofront dug up your comments. I supposed you will reply that you found out about scambeck and wdc after you pumped them. You just got busted for lying . BTW, doug gilmore, the lawyer that is part of the scambeck trio has taken his profile off the wdc foundation page. But don't worry doug, your info is preserved for prosperity. http://web.archive.org/web/20140207083324/http://worldcoinfoundation.org/index.php/en/about/board-members |
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Jeezy911
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February 08, 2014, 06:39:08 PM |
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My position regarding 'Scharmbeck'. I used to work for the Worldcoin Foundation. 3 of the board members decided to develop Scharmbeck. I did not approve of the relationship regarding Scharmbeck and the Foundation. I found it 'unwholesome' - so i quit.
~~ Xodianbarr ~~
You said you quit because you found "the relationship regarding Scharmbeck and the Foundation. I found it 'unwholesome' - so i quit." but infofront dug up your comments. I supposed you will reply that you found out about scambeck and wdc after you pumped them. You just got busted for lying . BTW, doug gilmore, the lawyer that is part of the scambeck trio has taken his profile off the wdc foundation page. But don't worry doug, your info is preserved for prosperity. http://web.archive.org/web/20140207083324/http://worldcoinfoundation.org/index.php/en/about/board-membersEw juicy. Fucking sharing this shit. You steal our money, we ruin you, see you guys on Facebook. |
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xodianbarr
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February 08, 2014, 10:42:36 PM
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My position regarding 'Scharmbeck'. I used to work for the Worldcoin Foundation. 3 of the board members decided to develop Scharmbeck. I did not approve of the relationship regarding Scharmbeck and the Foundation. I found it 'unwholesome' - so i quit.
~~ Xodianbarr ~~
You said you quit because you found "the relationship regarding Scharmbeck and the Foundation. I found it 'unwholesome' - so i quit." but infofront dug up your comments. I supposed you will reply that you found out about scambeck and wdc after you pumped them. You just got busted for lying . BTW, doug gilmore, the lawyer that is part of the scambeck trio has taken his profile off the wdc foundation page. But don't worry doug, your info is preserved for prosperity. http://web.archive.org/web/20140207083324/http://worldcoinfoundation.org/index.php/en/about/board-members<-- holy shit! you actually managed to report a FACT!Sorry explain to me what the lie was again? Did you even read my reply?? Infofronts clearly did considering he dropped the subject. I said Scharmbeck was a good venture. It was actually my job to promote Worldcoin (which obviously includes new Worldcoin services). That was a long time before all this happened i might add. Show me where i said i approved of the relationship between Worldcoin foundation and Scharmbeck. Just to point out also (Not that you deserve it): this was BEFORE I quit. So It's about time you retract your SECOND bullshit statement - again. Is there actually ANYTHING you can get right? Sucks to be you. You accused me of something without proof. You're still disrespecting me. For the sake of it. What kind of person are you that burns people for the hell of it? Oh i just saw another lie of yours. Didn't notice the first time. Despite no proof other than your schitzophrenic fantasies - how do you come to the conclusion I 'pumped scambeck and WDC'? Of course i'm sure you can provide some more falsehoods to make you look even MORE foolish (if thats possible). So far you've wrongly accused me and Sagefit without any evidence, or reason to justify it. You are beginning to look increasingly like a troll. Just to point out - what is it you're trying to achieve exactly? Clearly you have some sort of agenda for posting unsubstantiated lies about things of which clearly you know nothing about. Explain to me the reasoning behind your judgement about myself and Sagefit. Do you actually know either of us? What exactly has led you to your conclusions other than some spurious dribble which bears no relation. By the way I will accept your apology now, knowing the type of person you are, you will just slope back off into the shadows now that you've finished your slander and found yourself wrong. I admit when I am wrong. But then, unlike you - I have honour. Perhaps when you're a bit more grown up you'll understand.... |
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February 08, 2014, 11:10:43 PM |
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What a shitshow. I sold out. Don't be a bagholder, and don't be someone who supports the people behind WDC and scharmbeck. This train is over.
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February 09, 2014, 01:15:12 AM |
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What a shitshow. I sold out. Don't be a bagholder, and don't be someone who supports the people behind WDC and scharmbeck. This train is over.
I agree, this is the 3rd time I got scammed at cryptostocks, stay away from the place it is to risky and to easy for scammers to make shitloads of money. All u need is an ipaddress and email and you can start an untraceable scam on cryptostocks. I filed several policereports, trust me you won't see your money back! |
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xodianbarr
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February 09, 2014, 09:40:34 AM |
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What a shitshow. I sold out. Don't be a bagholder, and don't be someone who supports the people behind WDC and scharmbeck. This train is over.
I agree, this is the 3rd time I got scammed at cryptostocks, stay away from the place it is to risky and to easy for scammers to make shitloads of money. All u need is an ipaddress and email and you can start an untraceable scam on cryptostocks. I filed several policereports, trust me you won't see your money back! The whole idea behind Cryptostocks is dubious. Even the site is poor. I feel for you. ~~ Xodianbarr ~~ |
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February 09, 2014, 06:12:26 PM |
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My position regarding 'Scharmbeck'. I used to work for the Worldcoin Foundation. 3 of the board members decided to develop Scharmbeck. I did not approve of the relationship regarding Scharmbeck and the Foundation. I found it 'unwholesome' - so i quit.
~~ Xodianbarr ~~
You said you quit because you found "the relationship regarding Scharmbeck and the Foundation. I found it 'unwholesome' - so i quit." but infofront dug up your comments. I supposed you will reply that you found out about scambeck and wdc after you pumped them. You just got busted for lying . BTW, doug gilmore, the lawyer that is part of the scambeck trio has taken his profile off the wdc foundation page. But don't worry doug, your info is preserved for prosperity. http://web.archive.org/web/20140207083324/http://worldcoinfoundation.org/index.php/en/about/board-members<-- holy shit! you actually managed to report a FACT!Sorry explain to me what the lie was again? Did you even read my reply?? Infofronts clearly did considering he dropped the subject. I said Scharmbeck was a good venture. It was actually my job to promote Worldcoin (which obviously includes new Worldcoin services). That was a long time before all this happened i might add. Show me where i said i approved of the relationship between Worldcoin foundation and Scharmbeck. Just to point out also (Not that you deserve it): this was BEFORE I quit. So It's about time you retract your SECOND bullshit statement - again. Is there actually ANYTHING you can get right? Sucks to be you. You accused me of something without proof. You're still disrespecting me. For the sake of it. What kind of person are you that burns people for the hell of it? Classic case of a professional BSer. Just talk in circle hoping to muddle things up and hope people don't have time to pick up on the BS. You said you "quit" when you found out about wdcf and scambeck. What was there to find out? scambeck was started by the very same people who appointed themselves as the principle members of the wdcf. This is not some hidden info, those guys used their positions with wdcf to promote scambeck, the info were clearly presented on their websites. Are you suggesting that you did not know about this connection when you first pumped them? OTOH, If you did know about this connection and you found it "unwholesome" and you did not approve of them, then why did you pump them? If you knew that they were "unwholesome" and still worked for them, that makes you (and sagefit) scammers. The only way for you to get out of this stink that you created is for you to personally claim ignorance, and say that you were first unaware about the connection between scambeck and wdcf, this claim would make you the most ignorant person in the wdc universe. BTW, for the record, you and sagefit did not "quit" scambeck, you two pumped them right to the time when the scam blew up, YOU were personally trashing people, on the trollbox, who tried to point out the problem with scambeck up until the scam blew up. The scam finally blew up when people did the dividends calculations to show that scambeck cooked the book ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443111.0 ). Their internal partnership problem conveniently appeared when their scam got ousted. You conveniently distancing yourself by claiming that you are only trying to promote wdc. Your new spiel now is to promote yourself as trusted vanguard guardian of wdc. |
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ahmed_bodi
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February 09, 2014, 06:39:53 PM |
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i am the previous operator of the mineworks scharmbeck pool (yes it sucked)
I can vouch for both sagefit and xodianbarr. as everyone knows i sold out and told nerdcustoms i dont wish to continue due to the situation with wdc and scharmbeck. and so it was merged with nutnut's nut2pools.
The state of WDC is a complete shambles. the current wdc devs originally focused on wdc as a general and scharmbeck was treated as a completely DIFFERENT entity. however as of the recent months it has become clear that wdc + scharmbeck are one and that without scharmbeck wdc is a failure/ UNOCS v2 . both me, sagefit, xodianbarr and numerous other people have put this to the devs with very little action taken.
The End result here is: wdc and scharmbeck is dead, move on. (You can't call people scammers for doing their job especially when things were different at that time)
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Zzzack
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February 09, 2014, 06:50:00 PM |
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i am the previous operator of the mineworks scharmbeck pool (yes it sucked)
I can vouch for both sagefit and xodianbarr. as everyone knows i sold out and told nerdcustoms i dont wish to continue due to the situation with wdc and scharmbeck. and so it was merged with nutnut's nut2pools.
The state of WDC is a complete shambles. the current wdc devs originally focused on wdc as a general and scharmbeck was treated as a completely DIFFERENT entity. however as of the recent months it has become clear that wdc + scharmbeck are one and that without scharmbeck wdc is a failure/ UNOCS v2 . both me, sagefit, xodianbarr and numerous other people have put this to the devs with very little action taken.
The End result here is: wdc and scharmbeck is dead, move on. (You can't call people scammers for doing their job especially when things were different at that time)
All right. I was an old WDC investor and I'm never investing again because of the professionalism shown from the current situation, but I still wouldn't call WDC dead. It still has some infrastructure. I definitely think its overvalued at 7 million $ market cap now, but I see it worth what Devcoin or Zeta are worth in the 2.5-3.5 million $ market cap range. A slow death would be painful, but a quick re-evaluation of the price could get things started again. |
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