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September 20, 2011, 10:04:34 AM
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Usually I go to bitcoin.org and then click the forum link there, that takes me to google and then click the first url, which is bitcointalk.org

For some reason that is now gone? Was it removed intentionally? If so, that cant be good, because how would "newcomers" know where the community is, and not end up with a scammers forum that promises the world for installing a nice btc trojan.....

I get the whole point of severing the link and decentralizing it, but killing it from google? Or am I just completely wrong? 

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September 20, 2011, 02:08:59 PM
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Usually I go to bitcoin.org and then click the forum link there, that takes me to google and then click the first url, which is bitcointalk.org

For some reason that is now gone? Was it removed intentionally? If so, that cant be good, because how would "newcomers" know where the community is, and not end up with a scammers forum that promises the world for installing a nice btc trojan.....

I get the whole point of severing the link and decentralizing it, but killing it from google? Or am I just completely wrong? 

Maybe this isn't where the community is.

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September 20, 2011, 02:28:07 PM
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I've noticed the same thing, searching for "bitcoin forums" now results in:

1. www.bitcoinforums.net/
2. arstechnica.com/.../bitcoin-the-decentralized-virtual-currencyrisky-c...
3. www.talkgold.com
4. www.bitcoin.org/
5. forum.bitcoin.org
6. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Forum
7. www.observer.com/.../bit-omoney-whos-behind-the-bitcoin-bubble/
8. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24422.0

How did we get bumped down to 8th place!?!
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September 20, 2011, 02:31:54 PM
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How did we get bumped down to 8th place!?!

no idea, but e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/robots.txt gives me an internal server error
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September 20, 2011, 02:37:07 PM
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5th place actually. That link is to the same forums under the old name.
That seems to imply that google hasn't indexed in the new domain name yet.
Maybe the right steps haven't been taken by the admins to make sure that happens?

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September 20, 2011, 02:46:21 PM
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Considering that for about a week a hate thread was recently floating at the top of this forum... does anyone really care?

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September 20, 2011, 02:50:28 PM
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1 -  forum.bitcoin.org is 301 redirected to bitcointalk.org .. so there shouldn't be two listings, but there are.
2 - about a week ago we had nothing but bill cosby and the site was down for some time.

You 301 redirect a site that doesn't exist (IE: taken down due to the cosby hack) and you'll see weird results for a period of time.   

I wouldn't worry about it....   it's going to "fix itself' in a few days...   







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September 20, 2011, 02:56:27 PM
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Considering that for about a week a hate thread was recently floating at the top of this forum does anyone really care?

Kinda my thoughts also...it might help Bitcoin as a whole if people looking to get involved don't notice the troll infestation under this bridge.
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September 20, 2011, 03:00:31 PM
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Simple solution ban all SA members the bitcointalk forum has become an extension of there immature drivel . Actually more of extension they took it over just ask anyone if they belong to SA they say yes..

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September 20, 2011, 03:48:19 PM
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Simple solution ban all SA members the bitcointalk forum has become an extension of there immature drivel . Actually more of extension they took it over just ask anyone if they belong to SA they say yes..

lol, I had the same idea, admittedly though it's impractical.  Cheesy
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September 20, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
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I have the following as second on the list:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3388352

bitcointalk.org is 8th

http://www.bitcoinforums.net/index.php is 1rst
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September 20, 2011, 05:32:45 PM
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It could be simply not having good meta tags in the page code.
I checked and saw that bitcoinforums.net has lots of words related to bitcoin/mining in it's meta tags keywords/description.
This forum has generic terms related to forum/SMF which look to be the default install.

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September 20, 2011, 05:43:55 PM
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Noticed it to today. It does not show up on a search for "bitcoin forum" anymore in the top at google.no and not even at google.com.

It does even not show up on first page on the search term "talk bitcoin".

And is not even first position on "talk bitcoin forum"

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September 20, 2011, 05:54:45 PM
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Noticed it to today. It does not show up on a search for "bitcoin forum" anymore in the top at google.no and not even at google.com.

It does even not show up on first page on the search term "talk bitcoin".

And is not even first position on "talk bitcoin forum"


it ranks well for cosbycoins ...  hence my point.


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September 20, 2011, 06:13:35 PM
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This forum is the de-facto archive of all old bitcoin posts and community events since 2009.
This is also the only forum where Satoshi has posted hundreds of times.

I find it immature for the admins 'distance' themselves from this place just because of some trolls on the economics/speculation board.

As a result, clicking on 'bitcoin forum' on the front page lists Google results, of which none in the top 10 are related to bitcointalk.org.

You basically just give free money to SEO vultures capitalizing on the fact you use the words 'bitcoin forums'.
Now there's a site called bitcoinforums.net which has the first place.

Nevermind the fact they have 200 members (and had way under 50 before you started linking to them)
& bitcointalk.org has 40,000 members.

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September 20, 2011, 10:02:27 PM
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If the robots.txt issue is solved and the recent hack/unresponsive server issue fades away, it will be back on 1st place in no time. Google has massive amounts of information regarding the sites people actually visit (google toolbar and all), the importance of keywords in your domain name is much lower than it used to be. If from all sites that have "Bitcoin forum" in their HTML title a single one gets 90% of the traffic, then that site is gonna show up as nr.1 for "bitcoin forum" even if it's called HannahMontanaGoxed.com
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September 21, 2011, 01:22:44 AM
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I think it's just a Google quirk. Nothing related to that should have changed.

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September 21, 2011, 09:12:32 AM
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I think it's just a Google quirk. Nothing related to that should have changed.

Doesn't explain why robots.txt is still broken?

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September 21, 2011, 09:31:55 AM
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This forum is the de-facto archive of all old bitcoin posts and community events since 2009.
This is also the only forum where Satoshi has posted hundreds of times.

I find it immature for the admins 'distance' themselves from this place just because of some trolls on the economics/speculation board.

As a result, clicking on 'bitcoin forum' on the front page lists Google results, of which none in the top 10 are related to bitcointalk.org.

You basically just give free money to SEO vultures capitalizing on the fact you use the words 'bitcoin forums'.
Now there's a site called bitcoinforums.net which has the first place.

Nevermind the fact they have 200 members (and had way under 50 before you started linking to them)
& bitcointalk.org has 40,000 members.

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September 21, 2011, 06:43:28 PM
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Doesn't explain why robots.txt is still broken?

The server is configured to return 500 errors whenever there is any error, including 404s.

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