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June 19, 2018, 06:01:37 PM
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I just saw now another Scam Accusations that was posted by rpi3eu  about MEGATRON ICO scam. Bounty manager was Wapinter, he promote MEGATRON with fake team. It was past few days ago. And recently I caught another ICO called xeonframe with fake team too. Both ICO has use fake photo from Google.
Both bounty manager was Wapinter. He was aware about megateon after Scam Accusations and locked their thread. It's well. I accept it's first mistake he can't find their team members on Google. But he already experienced that ICO can use fake photo from Google. Am I right ? It's not long time ago happened about MEGATRON.

Recently he post another bounty called xeonframe.  This ICO also use fake photo. So why Wapinter didn't check out their team as well as he has previous experience with same thing.

If I say he is related with both scam. I will wrong? Because all the evidence saying that not by me !
Also it's proved that he has multiple account. He already taged for multiple account.

Do you think he should tag again for promote multiple scam ICO? So people can aware about him.

Justice depend on you guy's.  I am wrong or right. I just bring out that point. Why he repeat same thing promote with fake team.

Just see both quote below:

MEGATRON  Archive: http://archive.is/WJxS5
Ann archive : http://archive.is/3WSyE
I would just like to bring attention of the forum moderators to a scam project called MEGATRON (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3133601.0)

If you examine closely, you'll notice the following:

1) Team pictures are photoshopped

Who they claim their team is:



And here's some proof of photoshop:





2) Team does not exist

Check below number 3

3) Company is registered in Switzerland, yet none of the members aren't on the official business registry (they are falsifying the claims)

https://ag.chregister.ch/cr-portal/auszug/auszug.xhtml;jsessionid=0b5f4df1fa0521aff6266d3b2175?uid=CHE-105.495.678

https://bl.chregister.ch/cr-portal/auszug/auszug.xhtml;jsessionid=0b5f0665c05a45a0f4c5e5924e6a?uid=CHE-108.062.525#



4) Thread bumping
   - you'll notice 99% of the comments are oneliners by newbie accounts saying praise about the project



xeonframe

Scam ICO name: xeonframe ( no SSL certificate on site)

Website : http://xeonframe.net/

Archive : http://archive.is/6nOAF

Team archive :

1)      http://archive.is/34Imm

2)      http://archive.is/peFEA

Bounty thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3963215.0   ( Manager :  Wapinter )

ANN thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3873411

Main reason to say scam for fake team members picture.  Their team is not existing and they chose from google. Most of team member is fake. They just use linkedin logo but there is no any profile link. I will describe below those I have strong evidence.

Look at the picture below I have marked & and check name too.



Point one : NORMAN OSAMU( FAKE) =Jason Chen ( Real)



Proof link : http://imperialholdingscompanies.com/index.php/our-team/

Point two : JETT JAXSON( FAKE) =Melissa Li ( real )
 



Proof link : https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-li-009805159

I believe that’s enough proof to say scam.  Be aware from such as ICO those have question mark.

Coinect

Scam ICO name : COINECT
Website : https://coinect.com
Archive : http://archive.is/Gaxza
ANN thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4419682.0  - by Wapinter
Archive: http://archive.is/gYp1N

This is third ICO promoting by wapinter with fake team. See the picture are below. I open this thread because even Wapinter aware about their fake team he didn't lock their bounty. Who will responsible if they plane for exit scam?
We was suggest to lock their ANN but Wapinter not yet lock. Check this thread: http://archive.is/imZvb

I was promised to suchmoon that I will research today about them. I was tried my best to find it.
Can you check the pictures on Coinect? Another shady ICO posted by Wapinter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4419682.0

Names sound really fake.

Name: Jason Zhou=Haruyama Mitsuru



Original name:



Facebook link : https://www.facebook.com/mitsuru.haruyama

Archived ( may be they will try to hack ) : http://archive.is/qLOwV

This is enough to called SCAM ?  He have own blog you will find on his FB profile. Just translate there also you will find name.



Finally I want to say even he is not related with scam, why he didn't research at least about team?
If exit ICO after bounty, there we can consider. Because actually no one can say who will scam. Even there is original team. That's called exit scam. But both case on midle of ICO running. And it's clear that both ICO has use fake team. So why Wapinter not research next ICO even though he have past experience. As well reputed manager should do this mistake ? I believe my point isn't wrong.

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June 19, 2018, 07:26:05 PM
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Can you check the pictures on Coinect? Another shady ICO posted by Wapinter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4419682.0

Names sound really fake.

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June 19, 2018, 08:24:23 PM
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Can you check the pictures on Coinect? Another shady ICO posted by Wapinter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4419682.0

Names sound really fake.
https://ore5.jp/archives/5859

I need translator for this one. Who is this guy:



Which one is real?



Not sure man, these glasses don't look the same on pictures.  Undecided

Wait, don't tell me. He got old but he wears the same old white t-shirt.

Oh wait....don't tell me.
春山 充  Haruyama Mitsuru ? Nah....probably google translator stopped responding. This has to be Jason Zhou, Python developer.

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June 19, 2018, 08:52:49 PM
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Can you check the pictures on Coinect? Another shady ICO posted by Wapinter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4419682.0

Names sound really fake.
I will try to find out by tomorrow about this website.
There is another problem I found that they use advisor from other ICO. I know it's not big deal. Advisor can be hire . But some picture typically using many site. I will identify some website that using same advisor but they are not real or trusted. Even a well know advisor can't gurranty that ICO will not scam. Because they are paid only for advise. Wapinter should be aware about this kind of scam ICO. Otherwise he should be ban or tagged due to scam ICO promotion. Not only one case. We can se here multiple case.

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June 19, 2018, 09:21:39 PM
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Why blaming me for the scam ICOs?Am I not co operating with anyone who reports a scam ICO?I immediately lock their threads.For the past few days I am being constantly targetted on this forum.I have publicly expressed my willingness to help fight these scam ICOs.I suggested we should have a group of members who do research before ICOs are allowed to post their ANN and bounty.I accept I made a wrong choice in megatron and xeonframe case but I was not a part of them.My fault I didnt do proper research before accepting these bounties but I locked their threads immediately as soon as I learnt about them.Lets fight these scam ICOs together.I assure everyone that I will be more vigilant in accepting the bounty campaigns from now on.

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June 19, 2018, 09:31:04 PM
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Why blaming me for the scam ICOs?Am I not co operating with anyone who reports a scam ICO?I immediately lock their threads.For the past few days I am being constantly targetted on this forum.I have publicly expressed my willingness to help fight these scam ICOs.I suggested we should have a group of members who do research before ICOs are allowed to post their ANN and bounty.I accept I made a wrong choice in megatron and xeonframe case but I was not a part of them.My fault I didnt do proper research before accepting these bounties but I locked their threads immediately as soon as I learnt about them.Lets fight these scam ICOs together.I assure everyone that I will be more vigilant in accepting the bounty campaigns from now on.
So what are you waiting with this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4424486.msg39469371#msg39469371  ?
10 levels depth referral pyramid, 40% promised monthly return(without fully tested product), photoshopped team member, advisor which is not advising project, coinect company not registered anywhere in UK.
It didn't cross your mind that this project is maybe....scam?

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Why blaming me for the scam ICOs?Am I not co operating with anyone who reports a scam ICO?I immediately lock their threads.For the past few days I am being constantly targetted on this forum.I have publicly expressed my willingness to help fight these scam ICOs.I suggested we should have a group of members who do research before ICOs are allowed to post their ANN and bounty.I accept I made a wrong choice in megatron and xeonframe case but I was not a part of them.My fault I didnt do proper research before accepting these bounties but I locked their threads immediately as soon as I learnt about them.Lets fight these scam ICOs together.I assure everyone that I will be more vigilant in accepting the bounty campaigns from now on.
So what are you waiting with this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4424486.msg39469371#msg39469371  ?
10 levels depth referral pyramid, 40% promised monthly return(without fully tested product), photoshopped team member, advisor which is not advising project, coinect company not registered anywhere in UK.
It didn't cross your mind that this project is maybe....scam?
Coinect team has asked me to give them 24 hours to post their reply.Shouldn't we give them a chance to clear our doubts?If they fail,I will waste no more time and Lock their thread.I am thankful to all members,including you, who brought this to my notice.

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June 19, 2018, 09:40:33 PM
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Coinect team has asked me to give them 24 hours to post their reply
^^ these guys are unbelievable.
Shouldn't we give them a chance to clear our doubts?
What doubts omg

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Coinect team has asked me to give them 24 hours to post their reply
^^ these guys are unbelievable.
Shouldn't we give them a chance to clear our doubts?
What doubts omg
Okay I have locked their thread.I will unlock it when they are ready to post reply.I will delete the content of thread after that and lock it permanently
edit : they have asked me to unlock now and allow them to post

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10 levels depth referral pyramid

Its standart refferal program. May be before post its better to read some more about partnership programs.



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40% promised monthly return(without fully tested product)


We test our system, but its still raw to production. Its one point for start ico.


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advisor which is not advising project

Did you contact her? Do you know sir, that post not checked info called a lie? If contact, please update info about date, time and method.


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coinect company not registered anywhere in UK


Because of its a brand name, not company's. Before writing such material may be easy to ask first and get the answer?






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Because of its a brand name, not company's. Before writing such material may be easy to ask first and get the answer?

What's your registration number IN THE UK? And maybe post it on your website like legitimate businesses do.

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June 20, 2018, 12:15:40 PM
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Hi Everyone! I saw some stuff about Coinect and I made this post a while ago, so I'll quote it here

I was scrolling around the bounties section looking for a signature campaign when I found this project . Here's an introduction to the project and what it looks to do in the industry -

Introduction
Coinect is a new trading bot/tool/system that is able to implement on popular exchanges (binance, kucoin, bittrex, bitfinex) and uses AI to minimize a loss while making favorable trades that will profit. They claim that in 1 month, they are able to make a 48% profit, which sounds incredibly similar to popular ponzi schemes .

AI System for guaranteed profit
Coinect claims that they are able to implement a trading system that guarantees in average about 20-50% profit. From their whitepaper, they claim that they will have a system that will cover ~20 exchanges and will work in a way which is as follows -

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An arbitrage situation on exchanges A and B is detected. At present, BTC (Bitcoin) = 3
BCH (Bitcoin Cash) on exchange A, while BTC=2.9 BCH on exchange B.
In order to benefit from the situation, it is necessary to sell our available 1 BTC (Bitcoin)
for 3 BCH (Bitcoin Cash) on exchange A.
Simultaneously, it is necessary to carry out an inverse operation on exchange B, buying
1 BTC for our available BCH at the lower cost of 1 BTC=2.9 BCH.
The result of this arbitrage is the possession of the original set of instruments (1 BTC +
2.9 BCH) as well as an invested profit of 0.1 BCH, capitalizing the investment.
A further conversion of the profit at the maximum rate of BCH_USD, in fact, creates an
arbitrage chain from 2 transactions.

They claim that they are able to calculate this, but how would this work from 20 exchanges? On popular exchanges like binance, the price of something is changing constantly and since you are making small trades and arbitraging, this might go wrong a lot of times. (This part is a bit messy, I am not very well versed in trading/arbitraging, if anyone has any better comments/analysis, feel free to comment).

False Advertising/Sloppiness
The entire website is very sloppily made and the details are often wrong, for example -

At first glance, it shows the profit is around 40-45% a month



Then in the section next to that, the text reads 20-50% profit a month.



Then if you try forecast your profit, it shows 48%?



You are also unable to change the slider from 1 month, it seems like that parts broken.

They also make it seem like they are going to be listed on popular exchanges, or at least know them and are connected with them shown in this picture -



I am unsure about other exchanges, but binance doesn't announce partnerships before the ico ends, so definitely dodgy at least. They are trying to mislead dumb investors here.

No experience
When you are looking to make a financial asset platform, especially if it is ai involved, you better have a lot of industry relationships and experience. This is the total opposite of the Coinect team, and the linkdelin profiles they provide are incredibly barren and they either have no experience or have some experience with some unknown company. They should have proven performance, social media presence, industry connections, instead, we are greeted with some possibly fake accounts that look like they were made 1 month ago.

The CEO/Team lead -  Dominic Hall
The CEO has made a total of 7 connections on linkedlin and has 1 past job at GFT, which I can't find anywhere. Definetly not fit to be running a million dollar finanical asset platform. I think these 7 connections are the fellow team members in coinect, as each of them have 7 connections each.  Embarrassed



Conclusion
Does not look like a very trustable ICO. I'd love to hear your thoughts though, thanks!


I'll address some other stuff in the next post! This one's getting a bit too big, haha.

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June 20, 2018, 12:30:16 PM
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I'll try and ignore the other projects that are either confirmed to be scams, or are being busted right now and focus on coinect.

When I was first tackling the issue, I was going to straight out call it a scam, but after further research and fully understanding the words that were on the website, I wasn't able to call it a scam at first, it was just a very dodgy ico with fake/dodgy team profiles. I could ask them for some other details (more in-depth knowledge about how the code works, but that would be confidential, and they definitely wouldn't hand it over).

They are sort of in a situation where you can't fully prove them illegitimate, and they have an excuse to not fully prove us wrong, so at the end of that, I'd only like one doubt fixed.

What's up with the team coinect? The whole team has 7 connections each on linkdelin and the connections are all your team members. Entering such a huge industry and expecting to raise millions with a rookie team like this would either mean a complete failure or an outright scam. Where are the industry connections? Where is the industry experience? Where are your teams' past experience? Where is your ceo's past work?

EDIT -  more info about coinect

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Hey Wapinter, I'll try to shed my opinion on your situation here. If it's possible, could you pretend I'm just a regular user and not your competition (a fellow manager) and I'll try to address this as neutral as possible?

Why blaming me for the scam ICOs?
Because, my dear, you've posted their ann threads (without a disclaimer) and you seem to be quite foolish with your selections of ICOs.

Am I not co operating with anyone who reports a scam ICO?I immediately lock their threads.
Locking a thread a week, 2 weeks after you've posted it doesn't mean you've done your due diligence when taking projects. A respectable manager would be someone who researched the project's team, read the whitepaper, expressed any remaining doubts to the managers of the project, and then, take the project. If you even took an hour of your time to check the team members/whitepaper of the 2 scam icos in op, and taken 10 minutes to think how unachievable coinect is, you would have saved yourself a lot of trouble.

Do you get paid for this? If you get and upfront fee, it would be very profitable for you to take scam icos as a client, get them to pay up, and then turn on them when the forum cops come knocking at your door. If this is the case, I believe there is no turning back for you...

For the past few days I am being constantly targetted on this forum.
This is all due to the fact that you abused your reputation to promote 2 confirmed scams and 1 very suspicious ico.

I have publicly expressed my willingness to help fight these scam ICOs.I suggested we should have a group of members who do research before ICOs are allowed to post their ANN and bounty.
Oh no...

You totally messed up here. When a company/freelance such as yourself has a client who they work for online, it is their responsibility to make sure the company is legitimate, and when you are working as a marketing firm/promoter (if you would call yourself that), it is even more your role to do your due dilegence. There shouldn't be a group of people who do research for YOU so YOUR ass doesn't get kicked when they turn sideways, it is your own role and you must take it very seriously.

I accept I made a wrong choice in megatron and xeonframe case but I was not a part of them.
You promoted them. You posted their thread. So you will share the blame, although definitely not most of it.

My fault I didnt do proper research before accepting these bounties but I locked their threads immediately as soon as I learnt about them.
Great on you for admitting your mistake, you can improve as a person this way.

Prevention is better than a cure.

Lets fight these scam ICOs together.I assure everyone that I will be more vigilant in accepting the bounty campaigns from now on.
You must be. A lot of people are in your bounties and they all trust you.

Haha, this got a bit long, sorry for the rant, this'll be my last consecutive post, so you won't get overloaded with my spam. Great job OP!

Have a great day everyone!

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I'll try and ignore the other projects that are either confirmed to be scams, or are being busted right now and focus on coinect.

When I was first tackling the issue, I was going to straight out call it a scam, but after further research and fully understanding the words that were on the website, I wasn't able to call it a scam at first, it was just a very dodgy ico with fake/dodgy team profiles. I could ask them for some other details (more in-depth knowledge about how the code works, but that would be confidential, and they definitely wouldn't hand it over).

They are sort of in a situation where you can't fully prove them illegitimate, and they have an excuse to not fully prove us wrong, so at the end of that, I'd only like one doubt fixed.

What's up with the team coinect? The whole team has 7 connections each on linkdelin and the connections are all your team members. Entering such a huge industry and expecting to raise millions with a rookie team like this would either mean a complete failure or an outright scam. Where are the industry connections? Where is the industry experience? Where are your teams' past experience? Where is your ceo's past work?

EDIT -  more info about coinect

You're overthinking it. "Dodgy ICO with fake team profiles" == scam. It doesn't matter that the monetary loss has not occurred yet.

Some other shortcuts:

Arbitrage == scam. None of the really successful arbitrageurs need any crowdfunding. They either have a shitload of money already, or they have real investors, or (most likely) they're not really successful. Arbitrage, day-trading, etc are just buzzwords adopted by scammers to deceive people into thinking that there is a magic money making machine.

40% per month, or 0.5% per day, or some other absurd earnings rate == scam. I think that one is obvious. Doesn't matter if the fine print says "not guaranteed". Magic money making machines don't exist.

Any pyramid-shaped structure (MLM, referrals, etc) == scam. Greedy bastards want your money AND the money of your friends and family.

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Can you check the pictures on Coinect? Another shady ICO posted by Wapinter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4419682.0

Names sound really fake.

I already got details please check this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4503041.0

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I don't think campaign managers have a duty to research the project in as much depth as you suggest.  They're just taking on a job, and when any of us apply for a job we usually assume good faith on the part of the employer.  It also assumes the manager is capable of and has the time to delve into detective work.  I think what you're saying shifts the blame way too much onto the campaign manager's shoulders.  What if there's a critical detail that the manager misses?

If a project turns out to be a scam, and they're in the middle of running a campaign, I think it's enough for a manager to do as Yahoo62278 just did and end the campaign.  Basically it comes down to the question of whether we're assuming a project is a scam until proven otherwise or legitimate until proven to be a scam.  There have been enough scams such that we probably ought to be assuming all ICOs are, but I don't think it's a campaign manager's duty to expose them before taking on the job of manager.

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I don't think campaign managers have a duty to research the project in as much depth as you suggest.  They're just taking on a job, and when any of us apply for a job we usually assume good faith on the part of the employer.  It also assumes the manager is capable of and has the time to delve into detective work.  I think what you're saying shifts the blame way too much onto the campaign manager's shoulders.  What if there's a critical detail that the manager misses?

If a project turns out to be a scam, and they're in the middle of running a campaign, I think it's enough for a manager to do as Yahoo62278 just did and end the campaign.  Basically it comes down to the question of whether we're assuming a project is a scam until proven otherwise or legitimate until proven to be a scam.  There have been enough scams such that we probably ought to be assuming all ICOs are, but I don't think it's a campaign manager's duty to expose them before taking on the job of manager.
I couldn't have put it better myself :claps:

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If a project turns out to be a scam, and they're in the middle of running a campaign, I think it's enough for a manager to do as Yahoo62278 just did and end the campaign. 
I couldn't have put it better myself :claps:
Somewhere in Tokio....



^^^ this guy has found a way to make all people rich without doing anything. Damn, 40% monthly, I will sell all I have, invest in coinect, compound it and I will become multimillionaire by the end of June 2019. By the end of June 2020. I will be multi billionaire.

On side note, I wonder what is he doing at restaurant...in Tokio...I am pretty sure I read in linkedin that he is in Aberdeen, working hard on coinect project

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June 20, 2018, 10:21:45 PM
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I am not sure why a Bounty manager has to be taken responsible for a scammy ICO, I mean before you invest in an ICO you are advised by mostly everyone to do your due diligence, to investigate whether the project is a scam or not, in other words, I hereby advise you all who assimilate SCAM ICOs with good intended and hardworking managers to do your research before participating in a Bounty.

On a personal note, have you ever thought that campaign managers put food on many people tables? Do you think they would risk anyone's financial independence and pick scammy ICOs just for fun? Think again before accusing a bounty manager and throwing mud on his face.

P.S. It can happen to anyone, nobody is perfect. Picking the wrong campaign is just a matter of time, but that doesn't mean you are doing it intentionally.

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