Alternative solution for ranking up instead of merits

[jay sd]

I think most of you may wonder how a newbie can make a post like this. Yes, I'm very new to here. But I'm familiar with simple machines forum.
 
After I came to this forum and after walking around the site I found that a new member cannot go beyond the Jr level unless he gets merits. Not only for new members, but also for all other members here they can't go beyond their recent level because of this merit system. Someone can say that " Make good posts and then you will be given merits". But you may know how hard it is to get merits in these days. Do you think other members will read all the posts and replies here and they will give merits to others with their busy life ?. No way. I think this merit system was introduced at the start of this year. So any member registered at least 1-2 months before  that date had a chance to go up in their ranks. But for the members those who registered after that date a higher rank is just a nightmare. You all know that how important a higher rank is.

I here came with a solution for that. Lots of members here are posting reports for their bounty works. If we have a system to avoid counting the posts in bounty section then only good posts in other boards can be taken in to the post count of a member. Yes, there is a way. But only the forum admin can do that by going to the settings of a specific board ( in this case the bounty section  board ). By that way all the members will have a chance to go up in their rank level without facing to the merit system. Isn't it fair ?. what do you think. Comments are welcome.

( Sorry for my English if I've done writing mistakes here as I'm not a native English speaker and this is just an idea of mine. Please don't ban me from this forum for making this post.)

[SuiMikira]

If we have a system to avoid counting the posts in bounty section then only good posts in other boards can be taken in to the post count of a member.

Not all of posts in other boards are good posts.
Also, what is your purpose to join this forum? This is a forum for Bitcoin (before) and also Altcoins discussion (now). So, if you are interesting in Bitcoin or Altcoins and want to talk about it. Welcome! If not, you can leave.

[jay sd]

Also, what is your purpose to join this forum?

Dude, please be honest with you. Don't you have an idea to make some income from this forum by joining to signature campaigns and don't you like to have a higher rank for that ?.

This is a forum for Bitcoin (before) and also Altcoins discussion (now). So, if you are interesting in Bitcoin or Altcoins and want to talk about it. Welcome! If not, you can leave.

All the people here have a freedom to express their idea. I just did that for all the other members here. Others can welcome us or not. I expected all kind of comments here. Thanks for your comment. I think that doesn't represent all the other members idea.

[digaran]

Here what I think, I think you are just an alt of somebody and you are fishing for merits, the mindset of people like you is the wrong mindset, people shouldn't come here to earn money from this forum, they should come here to discuss about how to earn money out there.

[amila_cs]

Here what I think, I think you are just an alt of somebody and you are fishing for merits, the mindset of people like you is the wrong mindset, people shouldn't come here to earn money from this forum, they should come here to discuss about how to earn money out there.

According to your logic all the signature bounties out there should be illegal and banned

[jay sd]

you are fishing for merits

No. I don't. I only expressed my idea about a way that others can go up in their ranks without counting bounty report posts and I don't represent anyone. Anyone can think anything.

[digaran]

According to your logic all the signature bounties out there should be illegal and banned

If people don't stop posting total garbage for money, that is what going to happen, bounties and signatures will become illegal and banned from this forum.

No. I don't. I only expressed my idea about a way that others can go up in their ranks without counting bounty report posts and I don't represent anyone. Anyone can think anything.

And you think that we should care about a newbie's opinion because they want people to go up in rank just to get more money out of garbage posting?

[amila_cs]

And you think that we should care about a newbie's opinion because they want people to go up in rank just to get more money out of garbage posting?

An opinion is an opinion whether it is coming from a Newbie or a Legendary. We should not discriminate members according to their rank and treat differently. I see that you have -32 trust. How would you feel somebody talk about you the same?

[jay sd]

And you think that we should care about a newbie's opinion because they want people to go up in rank just to get more money out of garbage posting?

Do you think you can measure the knowledge of a person by looking at his rank here  . The rank here is just a rank. I think most of newbie here have knowledge more than some of hero here. But only problem is they are just newbies and people like you don't like to listen to them. Sorry. No offence.

Even Satoshi Nakamoto will be a newbie if he creates an account today. Then don't you listen to him as his rank is just newbie ?.

[TheQuin]

By that way all the members will have a chance to go up in their rank level without facing to the merit system. Isn't it fair ?. what do you think. Comments are welcome.

There is no point in a ranking system that just counts posts over a time period. Merit was introduced so that only those that make a valuable contribution to the forum will rank up in future. My only regret is that it wasn't introduced long ago.

[jay sd]

There is no point in a ranking system that just counts posts over a time period. Merit was introduced so that only those that make a valuable contribution to the forum will rank up in future. My only regret is that it wasn't introduced long ago.

That's a good point. I respect you. No negative trust. A long long time ago registered member and really a hero here.

I just told my idea. I think in this life I will not able to see a forum without merit system. But I spoke here for all other members. I know they will not tell anything here. Because who likes to get banned by making replies to this thread.  

[DdmrDdmr]

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If we have a system to avoid counting the posts in bounty section then only good posts in other boards can be taken in to the post count of a member. Yes, there is a way. But only the forum admin can do that by going to the settings of a specific board ( in this case the bounty section  board ). By that way all the members will have a chance to go up in their rank level without facing to the merit system. Isn't it fair ?. what do you think. Comments are welcome.

The problem is not only within the Bounty section of the Forum. Bounty hunters report there, but tend to spam gibberish posts outside of that section, precisely because they are required to do so by the campaign quotas, thus flooding other forum sections on a permanent basis.  That is the principal problem. Not counting activity within the Bounty section does therefore nothing to improve the situation.

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Please don't ban me from this forum for making this post.

No, you will not be banned for writing a post that has wrong fundamentals. Controversy is allowed and is part of the richness of the system, although changing the ranking system is often approached without in-depth knowledge of the reasons for its existence.

[TheQuin]

I know they will not tell anything here. Because who likes to get banned by making replies to this thread.  

Nobody will get banned for that. People only get banned for breaking the rules. Bitcoin is a libertarian movement and freedom of speech is a fundamental part of that.

[aksen]

If I get your suggestion correctly, you mean ranking up based on number of posts. So basically, you want ranking up based on activity only just as it was before the merit system. I do not think that is ever going to happen. Admin did ask for suggestions to control the spam on the forum and then introduced this merit system here. So, you want all those suggestions and his hard work to go in vain now.

In my opinion, it has encouraged new members to post good content. But we need more restrictions for guys spamming this forum as they are still doing the same.

[LoyceV]

Lots of members here are posting reports for their bounty works.

I wouldn't call spamming "working".

[hilariousetc]

I'm not entirely sure what you're suggesting here. You want to just give merit out automatically for posts that are not in the bounty section? The entire issue with the ranking system here prior to the merit system was that all you needed to do was to log in once a fortnight to make a single post and you could collect the same activity as anyone else. You could do this on hundreds of accounts and people were doing exactly this. If we just dish out merit merely for posts then it's practically the same as it was before. Yes, merit isn't easy to get but it shouldn't be. Make quality posts over time and you should get the merit eventually.

[evlogii]

Nobody will get banned for that. People only get banned for breaking the rules. Bitcoin is a libertarian movement and freedom of speech is a fundamental part of that.

I have also observed that the forum is not that much strict while opposing the staff or current rules. Most of the other forums issue temporary bans for such activities.

Coming back to your question OP, you are asking for ranks based on the number of posts. Then what is the use  of merits ? It has already been implemented, is running for months and members have also accepted it. Move on.

[jay sd]

Ok. I listened to the opinions of all of yours. I accept the merit system. I just mentioned an option of simple machines forum. If all the members here have accepted the current merit system then there is no point of talking about it just only by me. Sorry for the post.

But I don't like the people who always says " yes, that's correct, ok sir, you are right, understood " kind of people. I have joined lots of forums and groups and I have seen hundreds of that kind of people. I have a simple word for them. But I will not post that word here. Just let you to think it.

Also I don't like the people who tries to attack others by aiming to get the attention of the senior members.

That's it. Thanks for you all.

[Slavyanskiy]

There is a system of merit, or there is no merit system. All this is not important. Only the goal that a person wants to achieve is important. If you set a goal: raise the rank, this can be achieved, of course, with some effort. Enjoy communication.

[Levyathan]

Merit used and created by theymos as an alternative solution to fight spam, just ignore all that requirement to be rank up and keep contributing to the forum and you are good to go.